The pandering to woke and illusion of choice

[big Hat arxm]

"The player is Henry and that is why you can have gay s*x with Hans and other characters even though we have explicitly stated that Henry and Hans are established characters and are straight in KCD1, uhh suddenly they are not because we decided that now you have the choice and that everything in KCD1 is non-canon! Uhh and also forget that Henry is deeply Christian and God fearing (established in the Madonna of Sasau questline) and should be terrified or at the very least concerned of the consequences of being sent to hell because of the "sin of sodomy"". :)

- Daniel Vavra

"Ohhh hmm but yeah you have no choice but to fight on the side of Wenceslas and not Sigismund because you are playing as Henry not you and various other times you have no choice either!" :)

- Daniel Vavra

This game is so linear and bad it is unreal.

[Darth Revan]

Originally posted by big Hat arxm:

Originally posted by Humpenstilzchen:

That´s why it is so succesful, right? Game sells like hot cakes and has a healthy playercount.
Maybe try another bait, this one is not believeable enough.

The game is only successful because it used the good name of the first game
if this was the first installment in KCD the game would be a massive flop, the game would have sold millions of more copies if the game was not woke

thats nonsense, the game barely has any woke stuff to begin with already, the woke stuff is minimal at best.

even if it would be the first installment it would still sell millions of copies becasue its a damn good game

[-{AU}-Piracy]

Originally posted by DaciValt:

Originally posted by big Hat arxm:

The game is only successful because it used the good name of the first game
if this was the first installment in KCD the game would be a massive flop, the game would have sold millions of more copies if the game was not woke

Yeah that's why Veilguard was successful right? right?

Flip flop arguments to find any reason other than admitting you were wrong.

Wokeness is not why DAVG was average. It's enjoyed only mediocre success due to the games shift away from previous DA games. It would still be a mediocre game without the woke stuff. Plus, it's wasn't bad, it just wasn't great

[StrayCat]

I don't own the game....but it's obvious from what I've seen that they took a less serious approach to the time period as opposed to the first game....for better or worse...it doesn't seem to be hurting sales and many are having fun...which is what games are for.

[KAObserver]

I've no idea why they decided to go this route honestly. I can only assume someone on staff was or is gay or an activist and like many other gaming companies, caved to the woke mob and put this in, under the guise of free will and choice.

[BigWezz]

Originally posted by big Hat arxm:

Originally posted by Humpenstilzchen:

That´s why it is so succesful, right? Game sells like hot cakes and has a healthy playercount.
Maybe try another bait, this one is not believeable enough.

The game is only successful because it used the good name of the first game
if this was the first installment in KCD the game would be a massive flop, the game would have sold millions of more copies if the game was not woke

Total nonsense.

It out sold KCD1, and made all of its money back on day one.

The fact that those who are crying about it are in a minority group and made little difference to the sales.

Cope.

[Darth Revan]

Originally posted by KAObserver:

I've no idea why they decided to go this route honestly. I can only assume someone on staff was or is gay or an activist and like many other gaming companies, caved to the woke mob and put this in, under the guise of free will and choice.

its could be influence from new staff, when they made KCD1 they were about 45 people (if i remember right), now they are about 250

it could also be the influence of thair owner/publisher since they got bought by Koch Media in 2019

[big Hat arxm]

Originally posted by Darth Revan:

Originally posted by big Hat arxm:

The game is only successful because it used the good name of the first game
if this was the first installment in KCD the game would be a massive flop, the game would have sold millions of more copies if the game was not woke

thats nonsense, the game barely has any woke stuff to begin with already, the woke stuff is minimal at best.

even if it would be the first installment it would still sell millions of copies becasue its a damn good game

"the game barely has any woke stuff"
well we played two different games, sure you were not playing skyrim lol?
i can`t go 20 minutes in this game without encountering it

[nosh]

The major issue is Vavra even saying that it was apparently implemented for representation and not because of story or anything.

[Darth Revan]

Originally posted by big Hat arxm:

Originally posted by Darth Revan:

thats nonsense, the game barely has any woke stuff to begin with already, the woke stuff is minimal at best.

even if it would be the first installment it would still sell millions of copies becasue its a damn good game

"the game barely has any woke stuff"
well we played two different games, sure you were not playing skyrim lol?
i can`t go 20 minutes in this game without encountering it

you have any examples?

[BigWezz]

Originally posted by Darth Revan:

Originally posted by big Hat arxm:

"the game barely has any woke stuff"
well we played two different games, sure you were not playing skyrim lol?
i can`t go 20 minutes in this game without encountering it

you have any examples?

It's because that sort of stuff is on his mind 24/7, so he sees it everywhere.

[nosh]

Originally posted by Darth Revan:

you have any examples?

Tons really if you measure it by KCD I.

[Patpat]

Originally posted by big Hat arxm:

Originally posted by Darth Revan:

thats nonsense, the game barely has any woke stuff to begin with already, the woke stuff is minimal at best.

even if it would be the first installment it would still sell millions of copies becasue its a damn good game

"the game barely has any woke stuff"
well we played two different games, sure you were not playing skyrim lol?
i can`t go 20 minutes in this game without encountering it

Every 20 mins ? Seriously ? Examples ?

[Mick Savage]

Originally posted by big Hat arxm:

"The player is Henry and that is why you can have gay s*x with Hans and other characters even though we have explicitly stated that Henry and Hans are established characters and are straight in KCD1, uhh suddenly they are not because we decided that now you have the choice and that everything in KCD1 is non-canon! Uhh and also forget that Henry is deeply Christian and God fearing (established in the Madonna of Sasau questline) and should be terrified or at the very least concerned of the consequences of being sent to hell because of the "sin of sodomy"". :)

- Daniel Vavra

"Ohhh hmm but yeah you have no choice but to fight on the side of Wenceslas and not Sigismund because you are playing as Henry not you and various other times you have no choice either!" :)

- Daniel Vavra

This game is so linear and bad it is unreal.

From my research it has more RPG elements than Starfail at least.

Wish they hadn't bent the knee to woke, this could have been a better game.

[Darth Revan]

Originally posted by BigWezz:

Originally posted by Darth Revan:

you have any examples?

It's because that sort of stuff is on his mind 24/7, so he sees it everywhere.

possibly, you might be right.

Originally posted by nosh:

Originally posted by Darth Revan:

you have any examples?

Tons really if you measure it by KCD I.

any specific examples outside of the very few and far between major points people bring up?

[Nistrega]

Originally posted by big Hat arxm:

Originally posted by Darth Revan:

thats nonsense, the game barely has any woke stuff to begin with already, the woke stuff is minimal at best.

even if it would be the first installment it would still sell millions of copies becasue its a damn good game

"the game barely has any woke stuff"
well we played two different games, sure you were not playing skyrim lol?
i can`t go 20 minutes in this game without encountering it

You are simply lying. Or don't know what "woke" means. If this is your life. It's a sad one.