What is WOKE for you?

[Колбаска]

I'm tired of explaining what woke is in my opinion, so I created this topic, and I'll quote it to those who ask what it is. I'm from Russia, so this term may have a completely different meaning than yours.


So for me personally, woke is a forced vision of various progressive ideas without caring at all about the integrity of the game or movie universe. Such ideas break the ENT and logic of the universe, they contradict how the universe developed before. Often, mentioning these ideas is completely unnecessary or inappropriate. They cause discomfort and misunderstanding.

Many woke adherents mistakenly believe that players like me are against any mention of gays or blacks in games, but this is not the case. For us, the determining factor is precisely the inappropriateness of such a thing and breaking the narrative and logic of the world for the sake of woke propaganda.

Games like Dragon Age Origins, Cyberpunk 2077, No rest for the wicked are not woke games. The environment and ent of these games fully correspond to the universe of the game, the narrative itself does not revolve around woke ideas. There are no illogical characters in these games who are introduced just to tick a box and get a mountain of money from investors. These are good and interesting games.

Why are we sitting here talking? We (myself and people with the same perception of this word) want to come home from work and relax in the game. We don't want to listen to woke sermons or worry that they'll try to shove these unnecessary things at us, disguising them as something else. If we don't talk about the problem, it will never be solved, so we talk. There will only be more people who are tired of woke sticking his dirty hands into our beloved universes, because even the most patient are already reaching the point where they cannot remain silent and accept all these changes. Too many universes have been destroyed, desecrated by woke storytelling.

If you have your own definition of the word woke, you can write it here.

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by alex010300:

One point of being woke is Historical inaccuracy, Netflix created a documentary about Cleopatra as a African women despite historical records has her as Greek.

Yeah that was really dumb.

Honestly I don't have a problem with playing with the race of historical figures for some sort of statement in principle, but don't call it a documentary.

Also it is kinda overdone. It was novel when Hamilton did it, but eventually overdone.

[amalric]

Originally posted by er.tz:

Woke is a term used by right-wing groups of fascist or near-fascist character, from Nazis to white supremacists, including the alt-right and religious extremists , groups like the KKK, etc. In summary, all the puppets of the big capitalists who use the term as a battering ram to attack non-heterosexual options, non-white ethnic groups, etc., and any element as long as social class is not mentioned. The attack on the supposedly woke is promoted by the bourgeoisie to divide the working class: there should be no conflict between whites and blacks, or between men and women, or between gays and heterosexuals. There is a conflict between the working class and the bourgeoisie. That is the real conflict that the attack on the woke tries to hide.

On the other hand, this is a debate intrinsic to the USA, which attempts to export it abroad with no results. When the capitalists of the USA had the world dominated, these debates driven by their puppets were not necessary since everything that came out of the USA was imposed without problems in the world. But those times have disappeared never to return. And the capitalists of the USA can no longer impose cultural hegemony. This anti-woke debate on all the Steam forums is nothing but the impotence of having lost such hegemony.

That is why the anti-woke are fuming, because this game is criticized by the anti-woke as if they were using Nazi propaganda from the 1940s, accusing the game of promoting homosexuality, being Jewish, degenerate, and an attack on the supposed white culture and its supposed religion.

So all people who are against that kids get told that they are the oposite gender and get hormons, or worse, are white nazis?
Or that we whities have to tolerate to get told we are nazi scums because we are white?

The woke idiots attacked us first and we defend ourselfs and our children against the crap.

You are a brainwashed commie.

[DaciValt]

Originally posted by alex010300:

One point of being woke is Historical inaccuracy, Netflix created a documentary about Cleopatra as a African women despite historical records has her as Greek.

That thing was hilarious. Omg I still watch clips of it now when I want a giggle lol.

Thanks Jada Smith for this masterpiece of memes.

[S1ntax Error]

Originally posted by Alasdair:

The term "woke," which has been in use since the 1930s or earlier, originally referred to awareness of social and political issues affecting African Americans. It is derived from African-American English and serves as a synonym for the General American English word "awake."

In a more colloquial sense, "woke" is often used to describe anything progressive, particularly content that highlights awareness of social or political issues impacting minority groups. For example, in certain narratives, characters or quests may address historical struggles faced by marginalized communities, such as the persecution of the Romani people or the challenges faced by Jewish communities during the Middle Ages. Even by the 1930s definition, such content could be considered "woke" as it reflects an awareness of these issues.

Glad someone isn't an idiot incapable of reading.

However, black people still use the word as originally intended. Stay aware of your surroundings because "x" group is always our to get you (whether that be politically, socially, etc). Now x normally means white but it is not limited to white people, it can expanded to any group seeking to oppress.

Either way, the same white people that black people need to stay aware of decided to take the term "woke" and co-opt it into whatever it means today. And from there I can only assume most people...at least most of the internet doesn't have a single black friend to correct them.

Whether a person doesn't have enough brain cells to learn what a word means or said person simply doesn't care when they take something from another culture and destroy it, they are still someone we need to stay aware of as that is exactly the type of person you don't want lose track of as they will probably stab you in the back. Full circle, this is why black people tell one other to "stay woke".

[DaciValt]

Originally posted by S1ntax Error:

Either way, the same white people that black people need to stay aware of decided to take the term "woke" and co-opt it into whatever it means today. And from there I can only assume most people...at least most of the internet doesn't have a single black friend to correct them.

Weird considering the anti-woke movement is global and not limited to small time American social politics that most people around the world could not give a damn about.

But whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.

I know you are used to thinking everything revolves around your very narrow world view (including the rest of the world outside of America) but no... we couldn't care less other than the fact you can keep your nonsense over there tyvm.

So yes we've taken the word woke and applied to it to leftism and there is nothing you can do about it. It's a cultural thing that transcends borders, cultures and ethnicity and I don't think you can round up the planet soooooo.

One thing that certainly unifies us is our dislike of American leftism and your incessant sermons about how great you are and how evil everyone else is.

[S1ntax Error]

Originally posted by DaciValt:

Originally posted by S1ntax Error:

Either way, the same white people that black people need to stay aware of decided to take the term "woke" and co-opt it into whatever it means today. And from there I can only assume most people...at least most of the internet doesn't have a single black friend to correct them.

Weird considering the anti-woke movement is global and not limited to small time American social politics that most people around the world could not give a damn about.

But whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.

I know you are used to thinking everything revolves around your very narrow world view (including the rest of the world outside of America) but no... we couldn't care less other than the fact you can keep your nonsense over there tyvm.

So yes we've taken the word woke and applied to it to leftism and there is nothing you can do about it. It's a cultural thing that transcends borders, cultures and ethnicity and I don't think you can round up the planet soooooo.

One thing that certainly unifies us is our dislike of American leftism. One thing we do have in common with America atm judging from the last election.

Ah yes thank you! A global movement that somehow started by co-opting black culture. You are right the world does not revolve around me and yet somehow throughout history black culture is stolen, distorted and then repackaged so the rest of the world can feel comfortable with themselves. Because that is easier than trying to understand why black people needed to create the term in the first place.

If staying ignorant helps you sleep at night by all means, but think before spreading said ignorance. Try to widen your view to understand just how much the Unitied States influence global pop culture and trends and from that, how much of said culture is co-opted black culture. In doing so you might start to see the patterns in which every time black culture in the US creates something as a means of solidarity, strength, or awareness, it is diluted, distorted, and/or politicized into something to destroy that same solidarity, strength, and awareness. And then you take the distorted meaning and repeat it back to me in an attempt to prove what exactly? That you are apart of the problem?

The world does not revolve around me or my perspective, the US on the other hand for some reason can't stay away from my culture. Probably why rascism is still a big problem in the "free world" aye.

[DaciValt]

Originally posted by S1ntax Error:

Ah yes thank you! A global movement that somehow started by co-opting black culture. You are right the world does not revolve around me and yet somehow throughout history black culture is stolen, distorted and then repackaged so the rest of the world can feel comfortable with themselves. Because that is easier than trying to understand why black people needed to create the term in the first place.

"black culture," dude so wrapped up in their own little world they forgot Africa exists.

Personally watch a Nigerian make fun of you all the time. He's hilarious, I highly recommend.

I'd love to see you go to Africa and try this, any country will do.

But sure, "black culture" is the American version with very localised political problems and is really just American culture but you put the word "black" infront of it to pretend it's something totally different.... Not the continent of black people that think you are lunatics.

Funny that.

I smell American Imperialism and Exceptionalism and it's not coming from me. Coz lets face it you've got nothing in common with Native Africans and dont have a single clue about them or how they think other than their skin tone.

Hell even better since you are a Democrat you can take the personal honour and pride in having voted for the people that destroyed Lybia just a few years ago. You must be so proud. So proud you almost made her President too as a reward for her good work.

You are American culture through and through.

Don't come at me about ignorance when it's clear you haven't held a single thought in your life.

[doug]

Originally posted by DaciValt:

Originally posted by S1ntax Error:

Either way, the same white people that black people need to stay aware of decided to take the term "woke" and co-opt it into whatever it means today. And from there I can only assume most people...at least most of the internet doesn't have a single black friend to correct them.

Weird considering the anti-woke movement is global and not limited to small time American social politics that most people around the world could not give a damn about.

But whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.

I know you are used to thinking everything revolves around your very narrow world view (including the rest of the world outside of America) but no... we couldn't care less other than the fact you can keep your nonsense over there tyvm.

So yes we've taken the word woke and applied to it to leftism and there is nothing you can do about it. It's a cultural thing that transcends borders, cultures and ethnicity and I don't think you can round up the planet soooooo.

One thing that certainly unifies us is our dislike of American leftism and your incessant sermons about how great you are and how evil everyone else is.

That's a lot of words to tell everyone you're racist. It's easier just saying you're racist. You can do it with two words. Makes it easier on everybody.

[Maréchal Davout]

Emotional marxism

[DaciValt]

Originally posted by doug:

That's a lot of words to tell everyone you're racist. It's easier just saying you're racist. You can do it with two words. Makes it easier on everybody.

Funny how you got that considering I didn't mention one thing about race other than how ethnicity's across the globe don't like your politics.

Oh but wait I forgot everything you can't control you just call racist, like some boogy man you pull out to try and scare people into doing what you want.

Yeah you can keep that garbage over there too, you don't scare me lol.

Gee it really is a mystery why you leftists are so unlikable huh?

Whats next? Nazi? White supremacist? I am sure you can go through all the buzzwords. Go on lay them all on me and I'll just sit here watching you flail around whilst anything you say doesn't do anything.

[Колбаска]

Originally posted by doug:

Originally posted by DaciValt:

Weird considering the anti-woke movement is global and not limited to small time American social politics that most people around the world could not give a damn about.

But whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.

I know you are used to thinking everything revolves around your very narrow world view (including the rest of the world outside of America) but no... we couldn't care less other than the fact you can keep your nonsense over there tyvm.

So yes we've taken the word woke and applied to it to leftism and there is nothing you can do about it. It's a cultural thing that transcends borders, cultures and ethnicity and I don't think you can round up the planet soooooo.

One thing that certainly unifies us is our dislike of American leftism and your incessant sermons about how great you are and how evil everyone else is.

That's a lot of words to tell everyone you're racist. It's easier just saying you're racist. You can do it with two words. Makes it easier on everybody.

You constantly call someone a racist, but you don't even know what it is. I think if you washed your mouth with soap every time you called someone racist, you'd be a better person. I understand that this is an international forum and such insults are taken lightly here, but in our country they can be beaten for such an insult for no obvious reason.

It is also the calling card of woke adepts. If you are called a racist, then 95% of the time it is said to you by a woke adept.

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by Колбаска:

I understand that this is an international forum and such insults are taken lightly here, but in our country they can be beaten for such an insult for no obvious reason.

Not sure what impact you're expecting to make by just announcing you live in a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ country, but okay.

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by DaciValt:

Originally posted by S1ntax Error:

Either way, the same white people that black people need to stay aware of decided to take the term "woke" and co-opt it into whatever it means today. And from there I can only assume most people...at least most of the internet doesn't have a single black friend to correct them.

Weird considering the anti-woke movement is global and not limited to small time American social politics that most people around the world could not give a damn about.

But whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.

I know you are used to thinking everything revolves around your very narrow world view (including the rest of the world outside of America) but no... we couldn't care less other than the fact you can keep your nonsense over there tyvm.

So yes we've taken the word woke and applied to it to leftism and there is nothing you can do about it. It's a cultural thing that transcends borders, cultures and ethnicity and I don't think you can round up the planet soooooo.

One thing that certainly unifies us is our dislike of American leftism and your incessant sermons about how great you are and how evil everyone else is.

Honestly it sounds like you need to pick a lane. First nobody cares about American leftism and then there's an intrrnational movement unified by their dislike of it.

Can't have both. If you don't care you aren't 'anti-woke', you're just a normal person who isn't tilting at windmills.

[DaciValt]

Originally posted by Quillithe:

Honestly it sounds like you need to pick a lane. First nobody cares about American leftism and then there's an intrrnational movement unified by their dislike of it.

Can't have both. If you don't care you aren't 'anti-woke', you're just a normal person who isn't tilting at windmills.

Well it was just a poor choice of words then.

People care enough to not like it and actively vote against it in growing numbers, they don't care for leftist arguments.

Plus they all boil down to the same thing anyway - "do exactly what I want or you're racist!"

It is no coincidence that the right wing parties are gaining in support across the board since the implementation of this ideology.

[Колбаска]

Originally posted by Quillithe:

Originally posted by Колбаска:

I understand that this is an international forum and such insults are taken lightly here, but in our country they can be beaten for such an insult for no obvious reason.

Not sure what impact you're expecting to make by just announcing you live in a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ country, but okay.

I want to say that the word racism is a terrible swear word and an insult that woke adherents use all the time and it's disgusting. You probably don't know the history and haven't read about Hitler's World War II and the death camps, which is really scary and creepy. Read it and you will understand why I react this way, since my country suffered the main damage and I do not know a single person in Russia whose family was not in mourning at the time of the end of the war. But I understand that this is an international platform and woke adherents are allowed to pronounce this word on the right and on the left, accusing everyone who does not agree with them. Although if they are offended in any way, they immediately run to complain to the moderators.