Upgrade Herring vs Meadow

[Oedipus's Stepdad]

When I checked Meadow's stats, they're better than Herring's. But after I switched horses, I noticed Herring's stats from before are actually slightly better? Are there some hidden perks, aside from the 35-mile unlock, that affect these stats?

[Kona]

https://www.reddit.com/r/kingdomcome/comments/1ikcojm/all_horses_you_can_buy_in_kcd2_their_stats/

I think its just a stat buff no other perks with pebbles or herring

[Oedipus's Stepdad]

Originally posted by Kona:

https://www.reddit.com/r/kingdomcome/comments/1ikcojm/all_horses_you_can_buy_in_kcd2_their_stats/

I think its just a stat buff no other perks with pebbles or herring

That's what I thought too, and I have maxed riding a while ago. With the same horse gears, Herring had 219 stamina and 40 speed, but Meadow only have 206 stamina and 36 speed, when Meadow is supposed to be faster.

[Lazydrones]

I am almost 100% sure that after some time whilst riding the same horse, it's stats improve.
After x amount of in game hours riding riding Pebbles his stats bump up and his value went from 120 to 4k 90% of the way through playing the game.

I "upgraded" to Herring on a second playthrough and his value has also increased - he was around 700 or so IIRC now he's about 2500 for me.

[Kona]

Originally posted by Oedipus's Stepdad:

When I checked Meadow's stats, they're better than Herring's. But after I switched horses, I noticed Herring's stats from before are actually slightly better? Are there some hidden perks, aside from the 35-mile unlock, that affect these stats?

Spoilers: There is a side quest in the 2nd map where you have to find attila (von burgov's horse) and bring it back to the horse merchant. It might be possible to take it to a black market dealer instead and take it yourself. I think this is the best horse in the game that I have seen so far. I'll probably try this on a hardcore playthrough

[Oedipus's Stepdad]

Originally posted by Kona:

Originally posted by Oedipus's Stepdad:

When I checked Meadow's stats, they're better than Herring's. But after I switched horses, I noticed Herring's stats from before are actually slightly better? Are there some hidden perks, aside from the 35-mile unlock, that affect these stats?

Spoilers: There is a side quest in the 2nd map where you have to find attila (von burgov's horse) and bring it back to the horse merchant. It might be possible to take it to a black market dealer instead and take it yourself. I think this is the best horse in the game that I have seen so far. I'll probably try this on a hardcore playthrough

It's not possible AFAIK as it's quest-related

[alexanderhward]

Originally posted by Kona:

Originally posted by Oedipus's Stepdad:

When I checked Meadow's stats, they're better than Herring's. But after I switched horses, I noticed Herring's stats from before are actually slightly better? Are there some hidden perks, aside from the 35-mile unlock, that affect these stats?

Spoilers: There is a side quest in the 2nd map where you have to find attila (von burgov's horse) and bring it back to the horse merchant. It might be possible to take it to a black market dealer instead and take it yourself. I think this is the best horse in the game that I have seen so far. I'll probably try this on a hardcore playthrough

Its not unfortunately. Atleast not via rhe black market. I tried and the response i got was something like “dont you know that horse belongs to bon vergow. Anyone from these parts. I want nothing to do with that horse as its surely the the rope for anyone who tries to steal it. Return him where you got it”

Another thing that i can only speculate is that on my first playthrough is my pebbles was 4200 in value after perk. Second playthrough, pebbles is 5k’ish. Only difference between the two is that i sold pebbles the first time and bought him back. Second playthrough, pebbles has been the only horse i owned. Could be a hidden perk beyond the secret perk if you remain loyal to ur steed

[Dylan]

The stats improve on Herring and Pebbles. Both are better than most horses however if you don't want to ride around everwhere waiting to get a better horse go to Nebakov Mill follow the road west till the first unmarked camp then head north you will come across a marked location called Von Burgow's Ambushed Men there you will find a horse called Bonka grab it and take it to the horse black market in the nomad camp make it yours and boom you have an amazing horse for cheap that out does everything in the first map and you don't have to ride horses around.

[Oedipus's Stepdad]

Originally posted by DylanCut:

The stats improve on Herring and Pebbles. Both are better than most horses however if you don't want to ride around everwhere waiting to get a better horse go to Nebakov Mill follow the road west till the first unmarked camp then head north you will come across a marked location called Von Burgow's Ambushed Men there you will find a horse called Bonka grab it and take it to the horse black market in the nomad camp make it yours and boom you have an amazing horse for cheap that out does everything in the first map and you don't have to ride horses around.

bonka's courage is too low, even with max buffs it's not going to hit 30. Pebbles can reach 30 courage with at max riding with the right gear, however.

[WaTaHa || Kirkor]

Stats depend on the equipment horse has. The only fair way of comparison horses is have them all stripped down from their equipment.
The best stats overall has improved Pebbles (Herring very close second imo)

[Dylan]

Originally posted by Oedipus's Stepdad:

Originally posted by DylanCut:

The stats improve on Herring and Pebbles. Both are better than most horses however if you don't want to ride around everwhere waiting to get a better horse go to Nebakov Mill follow the road west till the first unmarked camp then head north you will come across a marked location called Von Burgow's Ambushed Men there you will find a horse called Bonka grab it and take it to the horse black market in the nomad camp make it yours and boom you have an amazing horse for cheap that out does everything in the first map and you don't have to ride horses around.

bonka's courage is too low, even with max buffs it's not going to hit 30. Pebbles can reach 30 courage with at max riding with the right gear, however.

Most people aren't using their horses for mounted combat and just want a donkey with good speed. But if they can stand getting the perk I agree Pebbles is a better horse.

[Dansoprazole]

Originally posted by Kona:

Originally posted by Oedipus's Stepdad:

When I checked Meadow's stats, they're better than Herring's. But after I switched horses, I noticed Herring's stats from before are actually slightly better? Are there some hidden perks, aside from the 35-mile unlock, that affect these stats?

Spoilers: There is a side quest in the 2nd map where you have to find attila (von burgov's horse) and bring it back to the horse merchant. It might be possible to take it to a black market dealer instead and take it yourself. I think this is the best horse in the game that I have seen so far. I'll probably try this on a hardcore playthrough

There is a way, but it requires killing the Malashov groom and, whilst riding Attila, inputting the console command: wh_horse_stealcurrenthorse

Because it’s not supported natively, might want to backup your save before trying this, just in case you encounter any bugs.