*MAJOR BUG* A warning for people who vault!

[ColdburnMaster]

During the quest Ars Dimicatoria, there is a significant bug that occurs during the tournament. I have reverted to old saves and the issue persists. As soon as Menhard wins the first fight, and Henry is told to enter, I vaulted and won the two rounds but then I could not exit the arena by vaulting or the opening which seemed to have an invisible barrier. NPC’s could not enter the arena through this invisible barrier either. I went back to the Menhard save, and this time what happens everytime without fail is that Menhard walks into the exit for about 2 minutes and then disappears. When it’s my turn to fight, I cannot enter the arena or vault into it from ANY direction. The quest is currently broken for me so I am leaving it unfortunately.

[Tenchuu Khan]

It's called Alpha Wall - just walk through the gate and stop trying vaulting?

[Baron01]

Originally posted by Tenchuu Khan:

It's called Alpha Wall - just walk through the gate and stop trying vaulting?

Exactly this. I had no issues with the side quest driven tournament. Just follow the instruction and do things correctly. Tournament is heavily scripted event that is prone to break down if you do not do things exactly as you are expected. Try to use a bit of role play, this is an RPG afterall, and imagine you hopping over the fence in medieval armor, you know chain and plate armors that weight a ton.

[ColdburnMaster]

Originally posted by Tenchuu Khan:

It's called Alpha Wall - just walk through the gate and stop trying vaulting?

There is only one entrance to the arena, correct? I cannot enter or exit this , and neither can the NPC’s. Please read the entire thing before suggesting I stop vaulting.

[ColdburnMaster]

Originally posted by Baron01:

Originally posted by Tenchuu Khan:

It's called Alpha Wall - just walk through the gate and stop trying vaulting?

Exactly this. I had no issues with the side quest driven tournament. Just follow the instruction and do things correctly. Tournament is heavily scripted event that is prone to break down if you do not do things exactly as you are expected. Try to use a bit of role play, this is an RPG afterall, and imagine you hopping over the fence in medieval armor, you know chain and plate armors that weight a ton.

I initially vaulted because I saw I was 1CM away from the corner that Henry was expected to wait in, having previously vaulted over walls without difficult I did not think this would break the quest. Even when I do not vault, NPC’s and myself cannot walk into the arena through the entrance you are supposed to exit and enter. It’s all well saying I should pretend to be a real knight but that doesn’t help that the NPC’s are also getting stuck. I tried to vault because using the entrance doesn’t work. If an NPC is walking on the spot for 5 minutes and nobody can enter or exit, that is a bug I believe…

[Baron01]

Originally posted by ColdburnMaster:

Originally posted by Tenchuu Khan:

It's called Alpha Wall - just walk through the gate and stop trying vaulting?

There is only one entrance to the arena, correct? I cannot enter or exit this , and neither can the NPC’s. Please read the entire thing before suggesting I stop vaulting.

Yes, you broke it apparently. I, and other as well, could finish the quest just fine by following the instructions and using the entrance to actually get in and out of the arena.

It is unfortunate this bug occurred for you, whether you caused it or not, as conclusion of this quests unlocks recurring weekly tournaments that you can participate in and win nice prizes even if the duels are not real challenge for you.

The first recurring tournament is bugged but my second, did not get to 3rd one yet, worked without a hitch.

Does your issue with the quest tournament happens even if you load save that was made before the tourney started? If yes, my only suggestion would be to try to repair the database via Steam and if that does not help, reinstall the game. A lot of data to download without guarantee it will help though.

[ColdburnMaster]

Originally posted by Baron01:

Originally posted by ColdburnMaster:

There is only one entrance to the arena, correct? I cannot enter or exit this , and neither can the NPC’s. Please read the entire thing before suggesting I stop vaulting.

Yes, you broke it apparently. I, and other as well, could finish the quest just fine by following the instructions and using the entrance to actually get in and out of the arena.

It is unfortunate this bug occurred for you, whether you caused it or not, as conclusion of this quests unlocks recurring weekly tournaments that you can participate in and win nice prizes even if the duels are not real challenge for you.

The first recurring tournament is bugged but my second, did not get to 3rd one yet, worked without a hitch.

Does your issue with the quest tournament happens even if you load save that was made before the tourney started? If yes, my only suggestion would be to try to repair the database via Steam and if that does not help, reinstall the game. A lot of data to download without guarantee it will help though.

I appreciate the comment mate. Yes, I have gone back to two previous saves before I vaulted. I wait for Menhard to win the first fight and then he cannot exit the arena, even while I am not moving. I have gone back to another save and I am completing a quest and will attempt the tournament afterwards. If this does not work I will try what you suggested. :)

[Tenchuu Khan]

It probably sets a flag by entering the arena properly. My guess.

Imagine a laser bar you walk through, it sets a flag that says now you are in - if you vault over, it's not set.

Just a wild guess.



PS: Makes me wonder though, what happens when you skip time when you don't to wait out the other tournament fights? Never tried it.

[le_dede]

Originally posted by ColdburnMaster:

During the quest Ars Dimicatoria, there is a significant bug that occurs during the tournament. I have reverted to old saves and the issue persists. As soon as Menhard wins the first fight, and Henry is told to enter, I vaulted and won the two rounds but then I could not exit the arena by vaulting or the opening which seemed to have an invisible barrier. NPC’s could not enter the arena through this invisible barrier either. I went back to the Menhard save, and this time what happens everytime without fail is that Menhard walks into the exit for about 2 minutes and then disappears. When it’s my turn to fight, I cannot enter the arena or vault into it from ANY direction. The quest is currently broken for me so I am leaving it unfortunately.

I feel like the invisible barrier goes up once you enter the arena and doesn't take the NPC into account. The only way I've found to fix it is to wait for the NPC to enter before entering myself.

[Tenchuu Khan]

Originally posted by ColdburnMaster:

Originally posted by Baron01:

Yes, you broke it apparently. I, and other as well, could finish the quest just fine by following the instructions and using the entrance to actually get in and out of the arena.

It is unfortunate this bug occurred for you, whether you caused it or not, as conclusion of this quests unlocks recurring weekly tournaments that you can participate in and win nice prizes even if the duels are not real challenge for you.

The first recurring tournament is bugged but my second, did not get to 3rd one yet, worked without a hitch.

Does your issue with the quest tournament happens even if you load save that was made before the tourney started? If yes, my only suggestion would be to try to repair the database via Steam and if that does not help, reinstall the game. A lot of data to download without guarantee it will help though.

I appreciate the comment mate. Yes, I have gone back to two previous saves before I vaulted. I wait for Menhard to win the first fight and then he cannot exit the arena, even while I am not moving. I have gone back to another save and I am completing a quest and will attempt the tournament afterwards. If this does not work I will try what you suggested. :)

Do you have a save that is from scratch? I mean, before the tourney actually starts?

Sounds like you have one broken save that you stick to.

But NPCs can get bugged of course.

That questline is really not that important anyway, it's really only fun until the tournament, afterwards it has 0 interesting story.
You can enlist for more tournaments of course which supposedly get better in prices but once you hit the Kuttenberg region, pffff... you get the best gear/money out of any clown NPC.

Only thing that would be interesting is if one could fight Hornet during an actual Tournament.
Didn't do that grind yet though.

[Baron01]

Originally posted by le_dede:

I feel like the invisible barrier goes up once you enter the arena and doesn't take the NPC into account. The only way I've found to fix it is to wait for the NPC to enter before entering myself.

I just remembered one fix for the issue with NPCs stuck outside of the arena that worked for me. Get into the arena and pass time, just one hour. The game should either teleport the NPC to the arena or you should win the round. Both outcomes happened to me.

[ColdburnMaster]

Originally posted by Baron01:

Originally posted by le_dede:

I feel like the invisible barrier goes up once you enter the arena and doesn't take the NPC into account. The only way I've found to fix it is to wait for the NPC to enter before entering myself.

I just remembered one fix for the issue with NPCs stuck outside of the arena that worked for me. Get into the arena and pass time, just one hour. The game should either teleport the NPC to the arena or you should win the round. Both outcomes happened to me.

The problem I am having now is that the referee cannot even leave the arena at the very start, I give up with this quest.