SPOILER ALERT! Let us discuss the ending of the story :/

[vonknauss]

Did anyone else feel robbed when the credits started to roll in the end or is it just me? How the %¤#" can Henry NOT get dubbed and be given some kind of estate after that effort for king and country, being partially noble as well. No No, get back to the gutters peasant! And the redhead, where the F%¤& did she go!? Jesus WH you blew this ending big time, complete anticlimax

[mrsddixon66]

I did. As for the redhead, if you mean Kathrine, my Henry 'romanced' her, if you can call it that, and after the ending you can see her and others back at Devil's Den but she can't interact with you at all. What happened to the lady that was so worried about him? No satisfaction.

[MrMinMax]

Ending in KC2 is pretty realistic, he was treated pretty well by nobles all things considered. Henry had to be legitimized by his father, and then get approval from his suzerain. And even after that be subjected to constant scorn by his "betters".

If you have time, read Chivalry series by Cameron. Pretty realistic depiction of how "man-of-arms" could climb the social ladder. (Get knighted, excel on crusade, marry well, serve great lord, be chivalrous and successful in combat and most of all be extremely lucky).

[mrsddixon66]

Originally posted by MrMinMax:

Ending in KC2 is pretty realistic, he was treated pretty well by nobles all things considered. Henry had to be legitimized by his father, and then get approval from his suzerain. And even after that be subjected to constant scorn by his "betters".

If you have time, read Chivalry series by Cameron. Pretty realistic depiction of how "man-of-arms" could climb the social ladder. (Get knighted, excel on crusade, marry well, serve great lord, be chivalrous and successful in combat and most of all be extremely lucky).

I would think Radzig did legitimize him since he acknowledged that Henry was indeed his son. Hans would surely give consent given all that Henry had done for him and nearly everyone else in the region.... a knighthood seems to be the least they owe him.... imho.

[Wanderer@Home]

My Henry would have been happy not to be babysitting Hans anymore :)
Not buying any wedding dlc lol

[mrsddixon66]

Originally posted by Wanderer@Home:

My Henry would have been happy not to be babysitting Hans anymore :)
Not buying any wedding dlc lol

I know. I wish they had made Hans less of an entitled jerk. He has very few redeemable qualities and that is a real shame.

[jabadabadu]

For me, it was too much talking about the unimportant persons and too less of Theresa.

My Henry chose in the ending, that he wants to marry Theresa and repopulate with her alone all of Skalitz and rebuilt it. That made his mother smile.

This is for sure a noble life goal, the scene then has maybe 10 seconds of Theresa smiling at Henry as he rides back to her. In my view, that is the important part for Henry, because this makes him happy.

OP was a bit unhappy that Henry got no land, but if you think about it... in this game 500 Groschen was a big inheritance, so you can be sure, with that 60.000 Groschen, you can accumulate, you can buy a total village.

It is left to your imagination, but he has enough money to buy everything.

[mrsddixon66]

Originally posted by jabadabadu:

For me, it was too much talking about the unimportant persons and too less of Theresa.

My Henry chose in the ending, that he wants to marry Theresa and repopulate with her alone all of Skalitz and rebuilt it. That made his mother smile.

This is for sure a noble life goal, the scene then has maybe 10 seconds of Theresa smiling at Henry as he rides back to her. In my view, that is the important part for Henry, because this makes him happy.

OP was a bit unhappy that Henry got no land, but if you think about it... in this game 500 Groschen was a big inheritance, so you can be sure, with that 60.000 Groschen, you can accumulate, you can buy a total village.

It is left to your imagination, but he has enough money to buy everything.

True. Unfortunately not enough is left to the imagination, lol.

[theo]

No, it's not a Shrek movie

[neofrommatrix]

What estate? Radzig has nothing to give, his home was destroyed. King is in captivity and the country is in civil war. Henry is basically glad he survived the day. The ending was perfect in my opinion.

[Cal]

The redhead (Rosa) is mentioned, something like she's a noble it'll never work out

[Cal]

Parents got mad i stole although i did tons of good stuff aswell, and i was expecting to be knighted finally. Agreed it could be better but it's not terrible

[kojak]

Radzig owns nothing except his noble name and his cool armor, none of these things he can actually pass on to Henry because as a bastard, Henry can only be legitimized by the king, but if Radzig dies, the King inherits everything from Radzig.

Reasons why a king might legitimize a noble underling's bastard:

1) Strengthen alliance: Radzig is already loyal.
2) Maintain stability in the noble's domain: Skalitz is gone.
3) Use the bastard as a loyal proxy: Possible, like Richard II legitimized the Beauforts to secure Lancastrian loyalty. However, again Skalitz is gone. Its people scattered to the winds. He already has Hans and Divish to oversee the region.
4) Avoid social or legal backlash: Again, Radzig is loyal.
5) Reward / control the bastard: Henry isn't ambitious enough to be a threat: He's motivated almost solely by revenge.

So basically there's no real reason for the king to legitimize him really. Better to confiscate Radzig's money and estates to the crown vs. letting a bastard (albeit a ahelpful one) enter the royal court.


Finally, Wenceslas wasnt just bad at governing, he was also an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Vanzann]

Originally posted by kojak:

Radzig owns nothing except his noble name and his cool armor, none of these things he can actually pass on to Henry because as a bastard, Henry can only be legitimized by the king, but if Radzig dies, the King inherits everything from Radzig.

Reasons why a king might legitimize a noble underling's bastard:

1) Strengthen alliance: Radzig is already loyal.
2) Maintain stability in the noble's domain: Skalitz is gone.
3) Use the bastard as a loyal proxy: Possible, like Richard II legitimized the Beauforts to secure Lancastrian loyalty. However, again Skalitz is gone. Its people scattered to the winds. He already has Hans and Divish to oversee the region.
4) Avoid social or legal backlash: Again, Radzig is loyal.
5) Reward / control the bastard: Henry isn't ambitious enough to be a threat: He's motivated almost solely by revenge.

So basically there's no real reason for the king to legitimize him really. Better to confiscate Radzig's money and estates to the crown vs. letting a bastard (albeit a ahelpful one) enter the royal court.


Finally, Wenceslas wasnt just bad at governing, he was also an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Henry mustn't be legitimized as Radzig's son and heir, much simpler way was for such bastard to start his ow new house, it was quite common. Basically, after all he's done it would be just a formality if Henry was a bastard born of both noble parents, but in fact he's "half high-born" bastard, so maybe he get's his well deserved knighthood a bit later.

But, truth to be told, I too expected "rise the knight" at the end :) Instead, got scolded by memories of my parents as if they were some kind of vengeful spirits. Sorry Martin, sorry Ma, but what the hell is wrong in ambition of getting knighthood and entering nobility (especially if odds are really in my favour?) And no, I'm nothing like Istvan Toth, he was driven by fear all life - but i'm becoming a lot like Zizka.

[Roberto]

Henry is still the bailiff of a town. He’s entitled to its taxes for a few years. That’s pretty much it already just without the noble title.

[corthew]

It ended on a light cliffhanger. What's wrong with that?
We know Han's will likely be giving Henry a domain. I'm pretty sure Henry will prefer to return to Skalitz to help in the rebuilding. and especially the restoration of his family home. His mom and stepdad are laid to rest there and he would want to honor their memories that way. After all his adventures though its unlikely he's ready to stay in one place for long.
I am very curious to see where the next story picks up. They've done so much in these two games its hard to realize we've really only been with them for a few weeks. The first story started in the summer and we're still in that same summer.
Remember...The first game ended with them sitting on the side of the road about to head to Trosky Castle to meet Von Bergow. That after Henry had almost single-handedly wiped out all the Cuman's in the region and saved Hans' ass in the process.
Henry didn't have a domain to manage then either until one of the DLCs gave him Pribyslavitz to rebuild.