Is hardcore mode enough not to feel overpowered midgame ?

[Adahn]

I've been waiting for hardcore mode to struggle throught the entire game. Is there still a thing that is too generous ? reputation, gold, whatever ?

[Mirrorboy]

P.P.S Secondary skills are higher.
Martial arts, swords ~17-18

[Grimtasy]

Regarding combat, like others have stated the game is still super easy in Kuttenberg region. In general by the time you reach the second map you're already overpowered if you invest in combat perks.

There are a few weird quest design decisions in the second map that will put you and maybe 1-2 allies against 12 guys and it's completely infuriating and stupid.
Other than that, 99.9% encounters are a piece of cake.

So in summary, Warhorse need to balance their game better, especially in the second part. They're aware of the game combat becoming trivially easy after some point and this is going to be addressed in 1.3.

Regarding economy, unfortunately there's not much to do. The first game also suffered from the issue of becoming baby mode after some time, because acquiring bandit armor and selling it eventually makes you filthy rich. They tried to address that by lowering maximum money pool from merchants, but it can only do so much to slow the player towards the acquisition of huge amounts of money.

[Bing_Chilling]

"Regarding economy, unfortunately there's not much to do. The first game also suffered from the issue of becoming baby mode after some time, because acquiring bandit armor and selling it eventually makes you filthy rich. They tried to address that by lowering maximum money pool from merchants, but it can only do so much to slow the player towards the acquisition of huge amounts of money."

Having high stealth/thievery skills basically allow you to steal the best gear, extremely easy. To a point, where money does not really matter anymore.

[druzilsupreme]

Slower levelling and harder enemies help. The optional debuffs for both of these have created a much more fun experience for me. The 40% slowdown of levelling has created a good money-sink to incentivise using trainers more, so I'm finding the economy more balanced also.

There's some perks that I still specifically don't take, to preserve challenge.

[Adahn]

Can i have a CLEAR answer wether or not so a thougher economy mod is needed to not be rich midgame ? I Like to be kinda poor

[PapaOscar]

There are balance changes coming mid may with the first DLC (and free update).

[Adahn]

PapaOscar a écrit :

There are balance changes coming mid may with the first DLC (and free update).

hope it makes current hardcore save harder in terms of economy. i just wish i didnt have to use mods

[druzilsupreme]

Adahn a écrit :

Can i have a CLEAR answer wether or not so a thougher economy mod is needed to not be rich midgame ? I Like to be kinda poor

If you show restraint on stealing you will not be wildly rich in HC mode. I did essentially every quest in the game and never felt overflowing.

[Adahn]

druzilsupreme a écrit :

Adahn a écrit :

Can i have a CLEAR answer wether or not so a thougher economy mod is needed to not be rich midgame ? I Like to be kinda poor

If you show restraint on stealing you will not be wildly rich in HC mode. I did essentially every quest in the game and never felt overflowing.

oh thanks for that answer

[theo]

Even better don't loot corpses

[Eisbär]

I'm experiencing hardcore with all negative perks as still fairly easy. I immediately focused on alchemy and after a few ingame days Henry is always on Henry's Fox for XP and Henry's Cockerel because sleepwalking is a ♥♥♥♥♥. During the day Henry is either on an archery range working on strength, agilty, marksmanship and warfare or riding Pebbles for the perk. During the night he's making potions and poisons to use or sell. Arrows with Henry's Bane make short work of any enemy. The economy is the same. When you're honest getting rich is hard work, when you're a thief it's easy. Because of all the practice potions needed to reach "Henry" level my Henry now is richer than he was at the start of my other two playthroughs.

Just like in non-hardcore how overpowered Henry is mid-game depends on your playstyle.
In my second non-hardcore playthrough I entered the Kuttenberg map with an almost maxed-out Henry, I don't think this hardcore playthrough will be any different for me, by choice. I haven't done any main quest after finishing the prologue yet.

[Adahn]

Eisbär a écrit :

I'm experiencing hardcore with all negative perks as still fairly easy. I immediately focused on alchemy and after a few ingame days Henry is always on Henry's Fox for XP and Henry's Cockerel because sleepwalking is a ♥♥♥♥♥. During the day Henry is either on an archery range working on strength, agilty, marksmanship and warfare or riding Pebbles for the perk. During the night he's making potions and poisons to use or sell. Arrows with Henry's Bane make short work of any enemy. The economy is the same. When you're honest getting rich is hard work, when you're a thief it's easy. Because of all the practice potions needed to reach "Henry" level my Henry now is richer than he was at the start of my other two playthroughs.

Just like in non-hardcore how overpowered Henry is mid-game depends on your playstyle.
In my second non-hardcore playthrough I entered the Kuttenberg map with an almost maxed-out Henry, I don't think this hardcore playthrough will be any different for me, by choice. I haven't done any main quest after finishing the prologue yet.

Thanks for your feedback, i do loot corpses and i rob stuff when i find the opportunity too provocative.. I found a mod making selling prices lower but i'm afraid its not balanced or that its unplayable after a patch.

[MA-SIMON]

Honestly all I want frome Hardcore Mode is:

-> Slower leveling
-> Hidden Map markers
-> No Rabbit UI

I could have done without the 3 perk selection. Might need a mod later on to remove those and just focus on the basic hardcore features.

[Die Hand Gottes]

Adahn a écrit :

I've been waiting for hardcore mode to struggle throught the entire game. Is there still a thing that is too generous ? reputation, gold, whatever ?

At some point you will be the super hero in HC
and that with all 10 negative perks
The biggest problem is finding your way around the map without a compass and without your own location on the map, you have to have played the map in normal mode before otherwise it will be really difficult to find your way around.