Stealth mechanic

[Moonlight]

I've tried almost everything in KCD 2, and I think the stealth mechanics (Visibility and Conspicuousness) should be reworked. It's unrealistic that NPCs can't see me instantly within a 5-meter range.

Here’s how this could be improved:

1. Visibility – If I wear dark clothes, my detection range should decrease. However, my Conspicuousness should be at its highest. The logic here is that no one typically wears dark clothes at night in restricted areas, so I should be immediately considered a thief. Outside of restricted areas, the current system should remain unchanged.

2. Conspicuousness – If I wear noble-looking items, I should be highly visible (as it is now), but the time it takes for NPCs to detect me as a thief should be longer. From the NPCs' perspective, a thief wouldn’t usually wear shiny, expensive clothing, so they might assume I'm an ally but decide to check on me if some triggers apply. Additionally, in this case, players should be able to use speech as a defense if confronted. However, if a guard discovers that some of their belongings have been stolen, they will remember me and label me as a thief.

3. Set a minimal detection range that cannot be lowered.

By implementing this system, creating a hybrid class with high armor and low stealth would no longer be beneficial, as your Conspicuousness or Visibility would always remain at 100 depending on what clothes I am wearing. Additionally, if you decide to steal items while having high Visibility, it would be riskier since you would attract more attention, and NPCs would have an easier time remembering your face.

[joxertm22]

Conspicuousness is basically irrelevant in stealth.
You want to not be seen nor heard. Only when detected, conspicuousness plays the role.

So get a few items with low noise and visibility, that is all.
If needed I can screenshot mine. Noone sees nor hears you unless they are 1cm away from you.

[Moonlight]

Originally posted by joxertm22:

Conspicuousness is basically irrelevant in stealth.
You want to not be seen nor heard. Only when detected, conspicuousness plays the role.

So get a few items with low noise and visibility, that is all.
If needed I can screenshot mine. Noone sees nor hears you unless they are 1cm away from you.

Yeah I know that. That's why I don't like how it works. I guess I have the best stealth items (or almost the best), so screenshot is not needed

[joxertm22]

Dunno what to tell you. I refused to register somewhere god knows where to get the rogue set.
Someone later told me that ingame items vulgaris can easily compete with it, specifically that knacker gloves are superior, so there.

[MrAnderson]

You should have made the game that way it could have been exactly like you want it to be. Maybe you should mod it and make it just perfect for you.

[MrAnderson]

Originally posted by joxertm22:

Dunno what to tell you. I refused to register somewhere god knows where to get the rogue set.
Someone later told me that ingame items vulgaris can easily compete with it, specifically that knacker gloves are superior, so there.

All the twitch items can be consoled in

[joxertm22]

Yes I know, but I am not touching console unless gamestopper bug, and there was none.