"Hans Capon" about homophobic comments: Guys, grow up, just grow up, man

[er.tz]

Six months ago, in a streaming video, the actor who plays Hans Capon (Luke Dale) mentioned that thanks to the game, he received a lot of fan art, which he posted online. Some of the fan art had homoerotic content featuring Henry and him. Here’s what he had to say about certain comments that the images received:

Starting from minute 7:19.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHxhd2tUZKc

(…) I posted some of the art that´s been sent to me over many many years. There was a lot of art that came out during first game and was sent to me, you know, some of it was of a homoerotic nature, wich it is fine if people want to send me that absoluteyly no problem at all. But then i had all these homophobes in the comments, not many i must say, but a few of them and i was like, guys, grow up, just grow up man, like come on, be serious, are you really like being weirded out by gays?, it is 2024, like chill the () up, all right, love is love (). I found that quite amusing. (...)

[Rothus66]

RNG Enjoyer původně napsal:

If people were totally ok with henry being gay and with making everything gay agenda in general, there wouldn't be so many arguments about it. The truth is: you all know what it is but everyone is scared to say it out loud.

dear god another one of these tards that saw matrix and andrew tate too much

[Bongoboy]

er.tz původně napsal:

like come on, be serious, are you really like being weirded out by gays?, it is 2024, like chill the () up, all right, love is love ().

The thing I do agree with is... just be nice to each other. Let people do their thing. It doesn't matter if we suppress everything homosexual. People should not care as much what others do behind closed doors. I know it is human nature to have "order" and some people seemingly delight in controlling the behavior of other people they have no business with.

He said some more stuff which I don't agree with, especially calling people names. Calling people names and accusing them... attacking them never yielded any positive result. Especially online where everyone things he/she is in the right.
Also, yes I can be "weirded out" by homoerotic stuff, that is a normal reaction, as normal as the next hetero guy not being weirded out by it. Some people can see blood, others are weirded out by it.

kth původně napsal:

Only incels cry about homosexual relationships having place in videogame. Grow up and get laid, leave your mother's basement, clean your room :)

I do not think it is helpful to start out a comment with an attack. If you think you can sway peoples opinion online by first calling them names and giving them unasked life advice, then you are wrong.

One more thing, it is ok in games to have both, hetero and gay relationship opportunities. Yes opportunities, if it is within the optional romance. Because it is the players choice to engage with that content. You could play the game and not engage with any of the games romantic content, or with its hetero content or with its gay content.

This is different from the medium of movies, where one could understand if people dislike it for showing to explicit intercourse scenes, hetero or gay. Those scenes are most of the time boring and don't really add anything to the movie most of the time. Instead they can let a new scene start in a way where you see two people dressing up in a bedroom, there is no more hint required then that.

[Traumaturgy]

evil murderous demonic creature původně napsal:

games are really good when you dont have a b itch screaming in your ear how woke it is

They are even better without gay scenes.

[Fyyyyysh]

FruitBat Man původně napsal:

RNG Enjoyer původně napsal:

I am judgmental and discriminatory because I don't want unrelated extras to the products I'm purchasing? Get help.

You're mad that they didn't cut content for you. that is a crazy take

That’s generally what complaints about gay romance options are. Complainers don’t complain about the game not catering to them. They complain about the fact that the game dares to cater to other people too, instead of exclusively catering only to them.

[JiveTurkey]

Traumaturgy původně napsal:

They are even better without gay scenes.

Must suck being forced to watch them at gunpoint. I hope you get the help you need.

[Drako110]

er.tz původně napsal:

Drako110 původně napsal:

Think what you want, you still have no balls to tell from where you come from, and now you're assuming from where I come from.

I am from the european nation which, thousands of years before the first phrase was heard in Polish or English, before Latin was even babbled, already spoke a language (and still do) and formed a nation—one of the first original European nations—so that a whitewasher of the Nazi army like you comes to talk to me about Europe it is funny.

I wear a swastika around my neck, but a real one—the symbol of the Basque people, called the lauburu—not the fake swastikas of your Nazi army friends.

My country has endured over half a century of fascist dictatorship, the nazi occupation, the Spanish and French occupations, and countless attacks since time immemorial, romans, visigoths, franks, muslims and christian kingdoms , etc... but here we are, still standing. They can all go to hell.

I was born in Gernika,one of the the first towns (if not the first) where the nazi army used mass bombing tactics against civilians (carpet bombing). I am Basque and speak the oldest language in Europe: Euskera.

As for my ideology, I feel no shame—quite the opposite. In Europe, I have always sympathized with the national liberation movement of Northern Ireland and that of my own nation, the Basque Country. In fact, they are two allied movements.

I also sympathize with the Greek anarchists and communists who rose up and were betrayed by socialdemocrats, as well as with the Corsican, Breton, or Catalan liberation movements and many others.

Ultimately, I stand with anyone who seeks to dismantle current imperialist and capitalist Europe to build a Europe of free nations with self-determination, not commanded by the bourgeoisie but by the working class. And of course, I am in favor of driving nazis off the streets by direct action.

I believe that, above all, marxist communist theses, but also libertarian communist ones and, in general, collectivist doctrines of mutual aid, as well as assembly-based and direct action approaches, are the most correct. I believe above all in the direct action of the working class, especially the working youth.

I believe that anyone who defends the right-wing like you is either a traitor to the working class or a bourgeois, and that those who defend progressivism ultimately end up becoming part of the system as well. You see, I have nothing to hide, unlike you

Ah so you are from some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ placed on the borders of current day Spain and France. An obscure culture, that sadly, still exist. If you are any indicator of how the rest of your people are.

Also swastikas, a proper ones i.e swarzyca or kołowrót. Are pretty wild spread, you have no claim to it.
And Nazis are closer to you than to me, yet anothet left wing collective and socialistic cancer.
But in one point you are correct. I am your enemy. I am proper right wing, I support Monarchy and my family is of noble descent.
And overll I am for personal and economic freedoms, idividuality over the worthless collectivism, that breeds nothing but stagnation.

I was reading about your people, the socialism indeed is something I would see you worship.
A ethnicy so old, and yet with no achivements worth mentioning, other than surviving this long.
I didn't even knew you existed, other than reading about you years ago when I was researching isolated languages. Just a passing note, nothing more.
How long do you think it will take before you, your language and whatever pass for culture of baguem or whatever you are called, fades away? I see there is around 3 milions of you left and out of those only 806,000 speak your language.

But hey, at least you can say! Our language and people were here first!
You know like Indians in USA, and you pretty much achived as much as they did.
But hey. don't let me or reality temper your ego. After all, things aren't looking birght for you, and delusions of grandure are pretty much what you have left.

[Fyyyyysh]

GHA! původně napsal:

JiveTurkey původně napsal:

You can see it happening in real time: Musk gives a nazi salute, they defend it. Now they're all throwing up the nazi salutes.

ye, the fact that america has basicly been going down a facist to do list would be good evidence if discriminatory escalation born from tolerance of the intolerant. But for some reason some people seem to want that, or give excuses or move the goalpost.

just look at drako110 and how he somehow focuses on the fact that one countrys implementation of hate speech failing (as opposed to the many many others that work) vs how allowing hate speech allowed a leader to remove the rights of minorities this verry moment under a banner of hatable strawmen of said minorities. just like the normalizasion of biggotry for any minority has shown trough history

It’s generally ironic to hear Polish far-right people complain about any anti-hate speech laws „because freedom of speech!!!”.

When the politicians they support regularly call for stuff like Russian style „anti-LGBT propaganda” laws.

[Traumaturgy]

@ #245
I got help in time from people disgusted by this stuff to realize to not buy it. I dodged a bullet, but its fine now. Thanks for asking.

[Fyyyyysh]

Drako110 původně napsal:

er.tz původně napsal:

I am from the european nation which, thousands of years before the first phrase was heard in Polish or English, before Latin was even babbled, already spoke a language (and still do) and formed a nation—one of the first original European nations—so that a whitewasher of the Nazi army like you comes to talk to me about Europe it is funny.

I wear a swastika around my neck, but a real one—the symbol of the Basque people, called the lauburu—not the fake swastikas of your Nazi army friends.

My country has endured over half a century of fascist dictatorship, the nazi occupation, the Spanish and French occupations, and countless attacks since time immemorial, romans, visigoths, franks, muslims and christian kingdoms , etc... but here we are, still standing. They can all go to hell.

I was born in Gernika,one of the the first towns (if not the first) where the nazi army used mass bombing tactics against civilians (carpet bombing). I am Basque and speak the oldest language in Europe: Euskera.

As for my ideology, I feel no shame—quite the opposite. In Europe, I have always sympathized with the national liberation movement of Northern Ireland and that of my own nation, the Basque Country. In fact, they are two allied movements.

I also sympathize with the Greek anarchists and communists who rose up and were betrayed by socialdemocrats, as well as with the Corsican, Breton, or Catalan liberation movements and many others.

Ultimately, I stand with anyone who seeks to dismantle current imperialist and capitalist Europe to build a Europe of free nations with self-determination, not commanded by the bourgeoisie but by the working class. And of course, I am in favor of driving nazis off the streets by direct action.

I believe that, above all, marxist communist theses, but also libertarian communist ones and, in general, collectivist doctrines of mutual aid, as well as assembly-based and direct action approaches, are the most correct. I believe above all in the direct action of the working class, especially the working youth.

I believe that anyone who defends the right-wing like you is either a traitor to the working class or a bourgeois, and that those who defend progressivism ultimately end up becoming part of the system as well. You see, I have nothing to hide, unlike you

Ah so you are from some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ placed on the borders of current day Spain and France. An obscure culture, that sadly, still exist. If you are any indicator of how the rest of your people are.

Also swastikas, a proper ones i.e swarzyca or kołowrót. Are pretty wild spread, you have no claim to it.
And Nazis are closer to you than to me, yet anothet left wing collective and socialistic cancer.
But in one point you are correct. I am your enemy. I am proper right wing, I support Monarchy and my family is of noble descent.
And overll I am for personal and economic freedoms, idividuality over the worthless collectivism, that breeds nothing but stagnation.

I was reading about your people, the socialism indeed is something I would see you worship.
A ethnicy so old, and yet with no achivements worth mentioning, other than surviving this long.
I didn't even knew you existed, other than reading about you years ago when I was researching isolated languages. Just a passing note, nothing more.
How long do you think it will take before you, your language and whatever pass for culture of baguem or whatever you are called, fades away? I see there is around 3 milions of you left and out of those only 806,000 speak your language.

It’s funny how „people” like you speak about freedoms and individualism, but all that quickly disappears when it comes to the subject of LGBT people.

[JiveTurkey]

Drako110 původně napsal:

I support Monarchy and my family is of noble descent.

A ethnicy so old, and yet with no achivements worth mentioning, other than surviving this long.

Do keep popping off on the Steam forums, my liege. Tell us all about your achivements.

[Ruck]

Drako110 původně napsal:

And Nazis are closer to you than to me, yet anothet left wing collective and socialistic cancer.

Oh look, the edgelord kiddo with the WW2 german avatar and spooookkky woooky red skulls is parroting overt nazi propaganda.

If you think the nazi's were left leaning or even remotely socialist, it's time to stop running your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mouth and pick up a book or 10. We teach kids the truth of this matter when they are approximately 12 years old.

Try to be more educated than a 12 year old next time you feel like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ out 14 paragraphs of whine.

[Balthazaar]

JiveTurkey původně napsal:

GHA! původně napsal:

i rather point out biggotry in order to not normalize it. genocidal nazis or not i don't want people to think "hey since open thinly veiled homophobic non arguments are fine, perhaps i could try taking another step on the road of increasingly harmfull discrimination".

no that thinly veiled homophobic non arguments are fine even if it didn't pave the way to more harmfull treatment, after all non straight people are on these forums aswell, and i doubt getting reminded that people hate them for that all the time is pleasant (even without the baggage of possible normalizasion into escalation they have to think about.)

You can see it happening in real time: Musk gives a nazi salute, they defend it. Now they're all throwing up the nazi salutes.

7 years later, and this song is more relevant than ever,

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3ToEvz-7trY

[Fyyyyysh]

Balthazaar původně napsal:

JiveTurkey původně napsal:

You can see it happening in real time: Musk gives a nazi salute, they defend it. Now they're all throwing up the nazi salutes.

7 years later, and this song is more relevant than ever,

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3ToEvz-7trY

So I understand that you think the guy with Nazi German commander pfp who talks about „evil Jews”. isn’t a Nazi? (The one who started this discussion about Nazis)

[Balthazaar]

Fyyyyysh původně napsal:

Balthazaar původně napsal:

7 years later, and this song is more relevant than ever,

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3ToEvz-7trY

So I understand that you think the guy with Nazi German commander pfp who talks about „evil Jews”. isn’t a Nazi? (The one who started this discussion about Nazis)

At what point in the song did you give it a thumbs down?

[er.tz]

Drako110 původně napsal:

er.tz původně napsal:

I am from the european nation which, thousands of years before the first phrase was heard in Polish or English, before Latin was even babbled, already spoke a language (and still do) and formed a nation—one of the first original European nations—so that a whitewasher of the Nazi army like you comes to talk to me about Europe it is funny.

I wear a swastika around my neck, but a real one—the symbol of the Basque people, called the lauburu—not the fake swastikas of your Nazi army friends.

My country has endured over half a century of fascist dictatorship, the nazi occupation, the Spanish and French occupations, and countless attacks since time immemorial, romans, visigoths, franks, muslims and christian kingdoms , etc... but here we are, still standing. They can all go to hell.

I was born in Gernika,one of the the first towns (if not the first) where the nazi army used mass bombing tactics against civilians (carpet bombing). I am Basque and speak the oldest language in Europe: Euskera.

As for my ideology, I feel no shame—quite the opposite. In Europe, I have always sympathized with the national liberation movement of Northern Ireland and that of my own nation, the Basque Country. In fact, they are two allied movements.

I also sympathize with the Greek anarchists and communists who rose up and were betrayed by socialdemocrats, as well as with the Corsican, Breton, or Catalan liberation movements and many others.

Ultimately, I stand with anyone who seeks to dismantle current imperialist and capitalist Europe to build a Europe of free nations with self-determination, not commanded by the bourgeoisie but by the working class. And of course, I am in favor of driving nazis off the streets by direct action.

I believe that, above all, marxist communist theses, but also libertarian communist ones and, in general, collectivist doctrines of mutual aid, as well as assembly-based and direct action approaches, are the most correct. I believe above all in the direct action of the working class, especially the working youth.

I believe that anyone who defends the right-wing like you is either a traitor to the working class or a bourgeois, and that those who defend progressivism ultimately end up becoming part of the system as well. You see, I have nothing to hide, unlike you

Ah so you are from some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ placed on the borders of current day Spain and France. An obscure culture, that sadly, still exist. If you are any indicator of how the rest of your people are.

Also swastikas, a proper ones i.e swarzyca or kołowrót. Are pretty wild spread, you have no claim to it.
And Nazis are closer to you than to me, yet anothet left wing collective and socialistic cancer.
But in one point you are correct. I am your enemy. I am proper right wing, I support Monarchy and my family is of noble descent.
And overll I am for personal and economic freedoms, idividuality over the worthless collectivism, that breeds nothing but stagnation.

I was reading about your people, the socialism indeed is something I would see you worship.
A ethnicy so old, and yet with no achivements worth mentioning, other than surviving this long.
I didn't even knew you existed, other than reading about you years ago when I was researching isolated languages. Just a passing note, nothing more.
How long do you think it will take before you, your language and whatever pass for culture of baguem or whatever you are called, fades away? I see there is around 3 milions of you left and out of those only 806,000 speak your language.

But hey, at least you can say! Our language and people were here first!
You know like Indians in USA, and you pretty much achived as much as they did.
But hey. don't let me or reality temper your ego. After all, things aren't looking birght for you, and delusions of grandure are pretty much what you have left.

You do well to be anti-communist being a noble; it's not that you have ideas, but you know who can ruin your cushy deal.

It was the Basques who defeated Charlemagne's army , destroying its entire rearguard. It was also a Basque who killed Franco's heir, paralyzing the Spanish fascist dictatorship. You might be a flat-earther, but I'll tell you that the first person to circumnavigate the world was a Basque.

Anyway, what you believe makes a nation great is very different from what I believe makes them great. For you, it’s oppression and the nonsense of nobility; for me, it’s solidarity that makes a nation great, and their capacity for rebellion against the nobility, the bourgeoisie, and everything that should disappear.

Basque language has suffered much persecution from the French and Spanish states, to the point of being banned at various points in history. However, the Basque working class created clandestine schools for its learning, and that marked the beginning of its salvation. Today, for example, in the region where I live, most children learn Basque language in school. The future is secured, and only growth is expected year after year in something that is now unstoppable.

What I am most proud of about my people is that we voted overwhelmingly NO to joining NATO, even though we were later forced by Spain to enter. The heroic cultural resistance over centuries to ensure our culture and language does not disappear, and the numerous revolutionary groups that have existed, exist, and will continue to exist.

Today, the Basque Country is the only place in Europe where, in the latest elections, a coalition of basque patriotic communists, socialists, and socialdemocrats has won, while fascism continues to rise across Europe.

I must also tell you that it is one of the few places in Europe, except for parts of Northern Ireland, where Nazis are banned from walking the streets (by the people, not by the foreign laws imposed on us), and you won’t see even a single Nazi skinhead, because he wouldn’t make it home. Cheers.