The Whole 'Woke' Outrage in KCD2 Is Just Nonsense

[i miss my foreskin]

So why is everyone still crying about this so-called "woke" in KCD2?
I’ve got over 80 hours in the game, finished the main story, and I know this won’t be my last playthrough because there’s just so much content. The amount of side quests and humor is insane, I haven’t had this much fun in a game in a long time.

And yet, all I see online is people whining about "woke elements" as if the game somehow abandoned its roots. Seriously?
Let’s talk about the romance, for example.
It’s written in a way that feels natural and meaningful, nothing is forced or aggressive. Up until the last moment, you can back out if you want, and even the bedroom scene is handled in a way that fits the time period. Both characters are hesitant, unsure if it’s even the right thing to do given the circumstances (no spoilers), and the act itself isn’t even shown. It’s subtle, fitting, and actually well done.

Then there’s this outrage about Musa from Mali. Why?
Yeah, he’s an arrogant nationalist prick, but he’s also a scholar and traveler, and his story is seamlessly woven into the plot. He has more depth than half the lowlifes you recruit for the heist.
I’m far from being some typical leftist, but this entire "woke" outcry is just nonsense. I’m convinced that most of the people screaming about it haven’t even played the game for more than two hours and are just parroting whatever they saw on Twitter.
KCD2 stays true to what made the first game great, and if you can’t see that, maybe you don’t want to.

[Burma Jones]

No one cares about your gaslighting, they lied to the player base and falsely advertised the game and went against the first game big time.

[i miss my foreskin]

Originally posted by Burma Jones:

No one cares about your gaslighting, they lied to the player base and falsely advertised the game and went against the first game big time.

What exactly was falsely advertised? The game plays like a direct continuation of the first one, with more depth, better mechanics, and a ton of content. If anything, it expands on what made the original great. If you actually played it instead of just repeating what others say, you’d know that.

[Burma Jones]

The sacrificing of historical accuracy and player agency to insert blatant modern identity politics, also clearly going against Henry and Hans as characters from the first game.

Just quit lying and gaslighting.

[dulany67]

Originally posted by Burma Jones:

No one cares about your gaslighting, they lied to the player base and falsely advertised the game and went against the first game big time.

It's a great game and I don't care. It's a matter of perspective and magnitude.

Zero tolerance makes everyone dumber. The world is grey and if you see it in terms of black and white, it will just be that much harder.

[i miss my foreskin]

Originally posted by Burma Jones:

The sacrificing of historical accuracy and player agency to insert blatant modern identity politics, also clearly going against Henry and Hans as characters from the first game.

Just quit lying and gaslighting.

What historical inaccuracies? What player agency was sacrificed? The game is just as grounded as the first, if not more. Henry and Hans evolve naturally based on what they’ve been through. Feels like you’re just repeating internet outrage instead of actually playing. Quit lying :)

[Hornet]

Look at the rating and the sales. The "outrage" is just a bunch of loud, terminally-online morons crying over a bunch of nonsense. I am as right-wing as they come, and I love the game.

[Burma Jones]

You guys seriously can't handle that people don't want modern politics injected into historical games and that the devs lied to the players about being a true continuation of the first. Pretend it didn't happen all you want, it just makes you dishonest and insane.

[VHS NEON]

Originally posted by Burma Jones:

No one cares about your gaslighting, they lied to the player base and falsely advertised the game and went against the first game big time.

They never lied nor ever falsely advertised it. Everything they said they would include, they did include.

[VHS NEON]

Originally posted by Burma Jones:

The sacrificing of historical accuracy and player agency to insert blatant modern identity politics, also clearly going against Henry and Hans as characters from the first game.

Just quit lying and gaslighting.

The first game wasn’t historically accurate, neither is nor should the second one be. These are games INSPIRED by history. Not documentaries.
KCD ≠ Real Life

[VHS NEON]

Originally posted by Burma Jones:

You guys seriously can't handle that people don't want modern politics injected into historical games and that the devs lied to the players about being a true continuation of the first. Pretend it didn't happen all you want, it just makes you dishonest and insane.

There are zero modern politics in this game

[FruitBat Man]

Originally posted by Burma Jones:

You guys seriously can't handle that people don't want modern politics injected into historical games and that the devs lied to the players about being a true continuation of the first. Pretend it didn't happen all you want, it just makes you dishonest and insane.

There are smatters of historical inaccuracies in both games. I've never played the first, but if you research it it's not 100% historically accurate.

Potions don't increase your health irl. That's a gameplay element not accurate to life. I asked this next as a genuine question and not an accusation... Are you sure it's the "historical inaccuracy" or "modern politics injection" you're upset about?

Or do you just think gays are icky? It's fine if you do. But I think people could point out a lot of cherry picking when others go and pick apart arguments like yours made.

And I know it's been said a hundred times, but you don't have to choose those options. You can cater the characters to your own sensibilities. And as a final note same-sex interactions is not inherently political or even modern. It's as old as humans. And this is historically accurate

[makbthemf]

Originally posted by Burma Jones:

The sacrificing of historical accuracy and player agency to insert blatant modern identity politics, also clearly going against Henry and Hans as characters from the first game.

Just quit lying and gaslighting.

How are "woke" stuff in the game sacrificing historical accuracy?

[Humpenstilzchen]

Good post. Couldn´t agree more. Hands down a fantastic game.

[§_blima22_§]

What humor? Almost every character in the game talks like a marvel character

[Roberto]

Originally posted by §_blima22_§:

What humor? Almost every character in the game talks like a marvel character

I know I've not watched a Marvel movie in a few years but man they must've changed a lot. I didn't expect Disney to let them get away with so many F-bombs.