KCDII

[OSHZAK]

Alright, I’ve been reading the posts here, and I need to ask: Why are some of you so upset over a gay scene and a Black character in the game? This outrage feels so unnecessary, so let’s break it down.

First off, boycotting this game isn’t going to do anything. Warhorse Studios isn’t going to change their creative direction just because a small group of people can’t handle a bit of diversity. They’ve got a massive, global audience that loves their games for the gameplay, world building, and storytelling. A few people refusing to buy the game? It’s a drop in the bucket.

Second, let’s tackle the “but it’s not historically accurate!” argument, because, honestly, it’s just wrong. History is way more diverse than people give it credit for.

LGBTQ+ people existed throughout history, even in medieval Europe. There are records of same sex relationships, from knights to monks to rulers. For example, Edward II of England had a famously close relationship with Piers Gaveston, which many historians believe went beyond friendship. Same sex relationships weren’t exactly celebrated, but they weren’t unheard of either. They were part of the fabric of life.
Black people in medieval Europe? Absolutely. People often forget that trade routes, like the Silk Road and Mediterranean ports, connected Europe to Africa, the Middle East, and beyond. African merchants, travelers, and even diplomats visited Europe, and some stayed. In fact, the 13th century Holy Roman Emperor Frederick II had African guards and envoys. Black people weren’t the majority, sure, but they were there.
Kingdom Come: Deliverance II might not be a documentary, but including diverse characters doesn’t make it “unrealistic.” It reflects a more nuanced and accurate view of the past than the narrow version we’re often taught.

And here’s the kicker: If this really bothers you, there’s a solution... Mods! You don’t like a certain scene or character? Mod it out. The modding community has been customizing games for years. Spend your energy learning how to tweak your experience instead of ranting about a feature most players don’t mind or even enjoy.

At the end of the day, gaming is about exploration, storytelling, and connecting with worlds we can’t otherwise experience. KCD II is just that. A chance to immerse yourself in a rich, complex story. If it’s not for you, that’s fine. But trying to boycott it over something so minor? That’s just wasted effort.

Let’s move on and focus on what really matters: playing great games and enjoying what makes gaming awesome in the first place.

[Fabiano Melo Pinto]

Originally posted by Ibram Gaunt:

Because many of us really defended Vavra when KCD1 came out and we appreciated the level of historical detail that was in the game - especially the addition of the Codex. We liked the characters in the game, and I personally was looking forward to continuing the story of Henry and Theresa. All of that is gone now.

And everything Vavra stood for and said when KCD 1 came out he is now completely against. He inserted DEI/woke ideology into the game, introduced fantastical massively ahistoric nonsense into the game, completely excluded last game's major love interest, and turned Henry into a bisexual for no other reason than to cash in on DEI investment money. He betrayed everyone, then tried to lie about, and is now insulting everyone who once stood by him and defended him. The entire reason KCD even has a sequel is because of us and he betrayed us.

1. We don't yet know if Theresa will be in the game, at the start of KCD 2 there's a dialogue where you can decide if she's still your main love interest
2. There is no inserted DEI/woke ideology in the game. All we know is that there's a gay character and a black character, and from the gameplay showcased so far, the main story of the game has nothing to do with them
3. The gay romance is probably just to add role-play value. I don't intend to make my Henry gay, but some might, and honestly, this is the essence of rp, create a character as you like

[2104WAUDIVER ✝]

Bro thinks anyone's gonna read that 💀

[Fabiano Melo Pinto]

Originally posted by Ibram Gaunt:

Originally posted by Fabiano Melo Pinto:

1. We don't yet know if Theresa will be in the game, at the start of KCD 2 there's a dialogue where you can decide if she's still your main love interest
2. There is no inserted DEI/woke ideology in the game. All we know is that there's a gay character and a black character, and from the gameplay showcased so far, the main story of the game has nothing to do with them
3. The gay romance is probably just to add role-play value. I don't intend to make my Henry gay, but some might, and honestly, this is the essence of rp, create a character as you like

The entire reason a gay and black character exist is because of DEI. Mali had no influence outside of Mali, they were a regional kingdom that got their money from slavery especially of female sex slaves (e.g., one Arab chronicler describes hundreds of young girl sex slaves being sold at the market).

Nobody asked for Henry to be retconned as gay except for DEI investors.

Henry wasn't retconned. Again, it's up to player choice. I could play a virtuous knight in the first one and a murdering sociopath who killed every npc he encountered in the second one. Was he retconned to be a sociopath? No, i played him like one, the same way you can play him straight or gay.

[OSHZAK]

Originally posted by Ibram Gaunt:

Because many of us really defended Vavra when KCD1 came out and we appreciated the level of historical detail that was in the game - especially the addition of the Codex. We liked the characters in the game, and I personally was looking forward to continuing the story of Henry and Theresa. All of that is gone now.

And everything Vavra stood for and said when KCD 1 came out he is now completely against. He inserted DEI/woke ideology into the game, introduced fantastical massively ahistoric nonsense into the game, completely excluded last game's major love interest, and turned Henry into a bisexual for no other reason than to cash in on DEI investment money. He betrayed everyone, then tried to lie about, and is now insulting everyone who once stood by him and defended him. The entire reason KCD even has a sequel is because of us and he betrayed us.

I get where you’re coming from, and I can understand being attached to what made KCD1 special for you. The historical detail, the Codex, and the grounded storytelling were a huge part of why so many of us fell in love with the game. But I think there’s some misunderstanding here.

Nothing about KCD II means Vávra or the studio has abandoned historical accuracy or their storytelling roots. Including elements like diverse characters or LGBTQ+ relationships isn’t “fantastical nonsense” or “woke ideology.” These things existed in medieval Europe, even if they weren’t always at the forefront of historical accounts. Historical records show that trade brought people of different ethnicities into Europe, and same sex relationships have been documented in countless cultures, including medieval ones. Adding these aspects to the game isn’t a betrayal of history. It’s an expansion of it.

As for Henry and Theresa, I get it, We loved their relationship. But storytelling evolves. Characters grow, and sometimes narratives go in directions we don’t expect. It’s worth giving the developers a chance to tell their story before assuming they’ve “betrayed” the original. They clearly care about the world they’ve built, and KCD II wouldn’t exist if they didn’t.

Henry is suddenly bisexual “to cash in on DEI investment money.” That feels like a leap. Characters’ personal journeys often include complexity, and sexuality can be part of that. It’s also worth noting that exploring different facets of a character doesn’t erase their past. It adds depth. It doesn’t mean the developers have abandoned storytelling; it means they’re taking risks and trying new things.

let’s talk about this idea that Vávra owes you something. Yes, the success of KCD1 was built on the support of its fans, but that doesn’t mean the studio is bound to make sequels that perfectly align with everyone’s expectations. Creative freedom is what gave us KCD1 in the first place, and that same freedom is driving KCD II. The idea that the developers should limit their vision to please one segment of the fanbase is counterproductive.

If you don’t like the direction of the new game, that’s fair. Not every sequel works for every fan. But calling this “betrayal” feels like an overreaction. Instead of assuming bad intentions, consider the possibility that the developers are trying to tell a bigger, more inclusive story while still staying true to the core of what made KCD special.

At the end of the day, it’s still the same studio, with the same commitment to creating immersive, story driven games. Maybe give it a shot before writing it off completely. And if it’s not for you? That’s okay, too. Gaming is about finding experiences that resonate with you, not tearing down those that don’t.

[Moon Punisher]

No attempt at gaslighting will work. I would imagine by now, it is 2025, you would know that.
People didnt let it go for veilguard, concord...
"I will add my agenda, if you notice, then just be fine with it"
No mate, I dont think I will.

[HAPPY]

stop blackwashing our history and stop forcing your sex cult into everything. Not everybody is mental leftoid....

[OSHZAK]

Originally posted by HAPPY:

stop blackwashing our history and stop forcing your sex cult into everything. Not everybody is mental leftoid....

Small brain. I'm not gay. Do some research.

[OSHZAK]

Originally posted by Moon Punisher:

No attempt at gaslighting will work. I would imagine by now, it is 2025, you would know that.
People didnt let it go for veilguard, concord...
"I will add my agenda, if you notice, then just be fine with it"
No mate, I dont think I will.

One problem... Those games sucked.

[OSHZAK]

Originally posted by Ibram Gaunt:

Originally posted by HAPPY:

stop blackwashing our history and stop forcing your sex cult into everything. Not everybody is mental leftoid....

That's just it isn't it? Because out of all the DEI they could have selected, they intentionally selected West African aka sub-Saharan, aka black. Ignoring the muslim aspect, a black being present anywhere in Europe was simply unthinkable. Muslims even more so, especially during this era of actual religious war especially under Sigismund, who was famous for launching his crusade against Islam in Southern Europe. It's 100% just DEI and a massive betrayal of everything. Vavra really betrayed us.

Oh, forgive me. I didn't know I was speaking to time travelers. I'm sure royalty knew everything that happened in their woods/lands. It's not like anyone destroyed records/art. It's not like some rulers had documents changed or destroyed. Do some research on Romans. See how freaky they got! You may shed a tear.

[Bill Cosby]

this guy is a shill and you'll never convince him, he's in some ♥♥♥♥♥♥ discord coordinating. move on fellas

[Zyenu]

Originally posted by Fabiano Melo Pinto:

Originally posted by Ibram Gaunt:

Because many of us really defended Vavra when KCD1 came out and we appreciated the level of historical detail that was in the game - especially the addition of the Codex. We liked the characters in the game, and I personally was looking forward to continuing the story of Henry and Theresa. All of that is gone now.

And everything Vavra stood for and said when KCD 1 came out he is now completely against. He inserted DEI/woke ideology into the game, introduced fantastical massively ahistoric nonsense into the game, completely excluded last game's major love interest, and turned Henry into a bisexual for no other reason than to cash in on DEI investment money. He betrayed everyone, then tried to lie about, and is now insulting everyone who once stood by him and defended him. The entire reason KCD even has a sequel is because of us and he betrayed us.

1. We don't yet know if Theresa will be in the game, at the start of KCD 2 there's a dialogue where you can decide if she's still your main love interest
2. There is no inserted DEI/woke ideology in the game. All we know is that there's a gay character and a black character, and from the gameplay showcased so far, the main story of the game has nothing to do with them
3. The gay romance is probably just to add role-play value. I don't intend to make my Henry gay, but some might, and honestly, this is the essence of rp, create a character as you like

I agree to these statements for the most part, it will depend on the black character's depiction. I rather doubt he will be depicted as the majority of his people but instead be some kind of cool headed saint or scholar

[Cpt Beefheart]

I don't give a f'in ♥♥♥♥.
I'm gonna enjoy the game and let all the ragers continue hitting their heads against the wall in their stupid woke vs anti-woke rants.

[OSHZAK]

Originally posted by Ibram Gaunt:

Originally posted by OSHZAK:

Oh, forgive me. I didn't know I was speaking to time travelers. I'm sure royalty knew everything that happened in their woods/lands. It's not like anyone destroyed records/art. It's not like some rulers had documents changed or destroyed. Do some research on Romans. See how freaky they got! You may shed a tear.

Musa is employed as a surgeon in the army of Sigismund. It's impossible a black muslim that magically knows how to speak fluent German/Czech would just be allowed to work without people knowing about it.

It is at the end of the day a video game. It never claimed to be 100% accurate. Videos out there of the devs saying it. I'm not that invested in caring. I'm just having some fun with angry people. I pre-ordered it already. I'll be having fun playing it.

[Cpt Beefheart]

Originally posted by Ibram Gaunt:

Originally posted by OSHZAK:

Oh, forgive me. I didn't know I was speaking to time travelers. I'm sure royalty knew everything that happened in their woods/lands. It's not like anyone destroyed records/art. It's not like some rulers had documents changed or destroyed. Do some research on Romans. See how freaky they got! You may shed a tear.

Musa is employed as a surgeon in the army of Sigismund. It's impossible a black muslim that magically knows how to speak fluent German/Czech would just be allowed to work without people knowing about it.

This is pure reddit tier "Ackshually" posting. How the tables have turned :D

[OSHZAK]

Originally posted by Cpt Beefheart:

Originally posted by Ibram Gaunt:

Musa is employed as a surgeon in the army of Sigismund. It's impossible a black muslim that magically knows how to speak fluent German/Czech would just be allowed to work without people knowing about it.

This is pure reddit tier "Ackshually" posting. How the tables have turned :D

What table? You use reddit? that says a lot about you XD