Kingdom Come: Deliverance II

Kingdom Come: Deliverance II

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Huggers Jan 19 @ 11:51pm
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Rape, incest and bestiality existed back then too.
But they only include the option to be gay. That's weird, isn't it?
All three of things happened more often than homosexuality, but only gay was included.
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Also age of consent was not a thing back then, do not forget about that too.
b careful they dont ban you for saying this xd
joxertm22 Jan 20 @ 12:08am 
Originally posted by Huggers:
But they only include the option to be gay. That's weird, isn't it?
All three of things happened more often than homosexuality, but only gay was included.
Did you play and finish the game?
You did?

Please, spoil us more what you found and didn't find in the game. Every single detail.
By the third game the left will be "progressed" enough to include the other things.
Huggers Jan 20 @ 12:21am 
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It's a simple logical progression. Why include gay option and not the option to be a horse-lover? It can't be about "player freedom to choose" because it would be equally as easy to program the ability to diddle a horse, actually easier, than it would be to program a gay romance script.

It can't be about "historically accuracy" because what about incest? Henry can't have a female cousin? That happened a lot back then. It even happened up until about 100 years ago, lots of historical figures married their first or second cousins. Nope, only gay was included.

When it comes to rape as an option "Well it's immoral" well hold on, didn't the dev tell us that they are depicting homosexuality as it being in context as sinful to that society? Why one and not the other? Weird that they just HAPPENED to choose gay isn't it?

"It's outside of Henry's character to rape, he wouldn't do that!" Oh, but he WOULD be gay now? So you ARE changing his character from straight to bisexual? Hey hey, you said it was player choice, you're not forcing me to rape a woman, you're just giving me to option. What's the big deal? Oh, no? That's not okay? Just the gay one is okay? Huh, why is that?

Fact is, is that we all know why they included it. Someone dangled money over their heads and said "Included a black guy and a guy option and you'll get this wad of cash" and the dev said "okay". It's not his "vision" it isn't "Artistically and tastefully done" it isn't "Reasonable and historically plausible".

It is what it is, a sell out. A betrayal. A bait and switch. And everyone who isn't calling it like it is either a shill, or more likely, just MASSIVELY coping and in the denial stage of grief.
I guess there might be a reason why you don't see rape, incest, or bestiality in video-games very often.

Your argument isn't that smart buddy.

By the way it's wrong to say that these things were tolerated back then. They weren't.
Last edited by Real Intelligent Mind; Jan 20 @ 12:23am
joxertm22 Jan 20 @ 12:26am 
Originally posted by Huggers:
It's a simple logical progression. Why include gay option and not the option to be a horse-lover?
The game is about Bohemia.
It is not about american culure and customs, you won't meet Kenneth D. Pinyan in the game.
Haddon Jan 20 @ 12:27am 
Huh, almost like those things have victims and are considered wrong because of the consequences to that victim...
rather than considered wrong because a holy book says so.
Though, of course, that same holy book does NOT say two those three are wrong, only certain kinds of incest are wrong...weird it has less a problem with rape than sex with an animal.
mipi123 Jan 20 @ 12:27am 
Rage bait post and jester farm, just report and move on really
Anima Jan 20 @ 12:28am 
The fact that we should keep the swearing to a minimum, in a board of a game where you cut people in pieces is just hilarious
bruh Jan 20 @ 12:32am 
wasn't most of this already mentioned or shown in kcd1? like rape was litteraly at the intro of the game
Huggers Jan 20 @ 12:32am 
Originally posted by Real Intelligent Mind:
By the way it's wrong to say that these things were tolerated back then. They weren't.
Neither was homosexuality.
Fact is that the defense of "It's optional" doesn't hold water, neither does "Historical accuracy" or any of that.
Give me the option to be able to force Henry upon a woman, even if what happens next is a cutscene with him going straight to the gallows, or the devs should just admit that they don't find homosexuality objectionable and wanted to include it in their game because they support homosexuality and wanted to be DEInclusive towards it.
Rasjel Jan 20 @ 12:32am 
to be clear for you homosexualaty is the same as rape incest and beastality?
its like a vegan would tell me to eat meat is the same as be a canibal...
joxertm22 Jan 20 @ 12:36am 
Originally posted by Huggers:
Give me the option to be able to force Henry upon a woman, even if what happens next is a cutscene with him going straight to the gallows
Okay, who told you such possibility does not exist in the game?

Ah, you saw it in the crystal ball you got for christmas?
Huggers Jan 20 @ 12:41am 
Originally posted by Rasjel:
to be clear for you homosexualaty is the same as rape incest and beastality?
its like a vegan would tell me to eat meat is the same as be a canibal...

So you're saying that you would include things in the game, not based on prevalence in history but instead on how you personally feel about the morality of such acts?

Huh, so it's kind of like that Henry's optional gay romance plotline was not based on anything historical at all, (because if it did, rape, incest, bestiality go to the front of the line waaaay before homosexuality would)

but instead it's inclusion (inclusivity) is just the dev's team (or rather their financiers') desire to include homosexuality in the game because they don't find it objectionable?

That's the point I'm making. The desire to include homosexuality is a sign of being tainted by dei/woke/modernism and nothing else. Because any other defense that I've seen used for it is completely shattered when you ask the question "okay, where is the rape then?"
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Date Posted: Jan 19 @ 11:51pm
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