Daniel Vavra's tweet from Today 01-19

[Kain]

Make of it what you will, at least be informed.

https://x.com/DanielVavra/status/1881081082612944935

By
Daniel Vávra

1/10 There are NO unskippable cutscenes in our games. Anybody who claims otherwise never played them.

2/10 We are NOT (nor ever were) banned in any country – at least not that we know of.

3/10 As much as I don’t like "forced diversity", nobody was forcing us to do anything, and we are not forcing anyone to do certain things.

4/10 Gay characters were already in KCD1.

5/10 KCD is an RPG, you are responsible for your decisions. If you want Henry to try a same-sex adventure, feel free. If you don’t want to, you don’t have to. All affairs are (and were in KCD1) purely optional. The characters are perfectly aware, that it was a forbidden sin.

6/10 The game takes place in one of the richest cities in Europe which was besieged by a massive foreign army. That´s the reason why the life in such a city is more diverse than the life in villages which were featured in the first game.

7/10 Musa came to Bohemia with an invading army as a member of the royal court of King Sigismund, whom he met thanks to his engagement at the court of Sultan Bayezid. He's an educated noble and renaissance man from the Kingdom of Mali.

8/10 At the same time, Musa is a very unusual figure for the local Bohemian folk, and many of the situations around him in the game stem from this. So his presence makes sense and creates lots of interesting situations in the game. The way he talks and behaves has a reason.

9/10 Everything displayed corresponds to the morals and social norms of 1403 Bohemia and is only there to make an interesting story, and not at all to appeal to a “modern audience".

10/10 We don't want KCD to be used as clickbait by people who didn't even play it yet. Some of them sadly turned into exactly the same narrative they pretend to be fighting against. The amount of hateful behavior is really sad and it will damage any cause associated with it.

[Midnightfen88]

Vavra clearly loved that DEI money. This is the biggest flip flop in the industry for the last 10 years.

Started with a bearded Vavra playing the based guy on Twitter at the time of KCD1 and saying to the woke mobs "no black people people, they were no black people in Bohemia at that time" to "here is Musa of Mali the mighty doctor and engineer from Mali teaching you how Europeans are bad and crap compared to his super Kingdom + the very diverse army of Sigismond"

Oh and I forget Henry becoming gay out of nowhere, because you know there has to be and you have to bow to the LGBT mafia.

Vavra and his studio are a huge red flag for me now, either you have a spine or you don't, Vavra lost his spine. Don't play the based guy when you don't have the full courage to stand behind your beliefs.

[Robert II. Flanderský]

I find it funny, that during first KCD he spoke very confidently that no black people were in bohemia in 15 century. And how homosexuality was prohibited by the society. Which aligns with what we know about the period.

And even after KCD backlash about lacking diversity etc. Vavra still stayed his ground.

But now with KCD 2 there is black guy Musa. Which immidietly go against his preaching. And gay scene for guy thats not even such high status that he can "in secret" do it.

With all that, it seems that this was just demanded by the publisher and Vavra just wants to put fake story, that this was planned all along.

Also i would appreciate if anybody could find something about Musa. I was not able to find anything on google. Czech history books. Nor on history presentation of "black people in historical europe" by czech national museum. Which mainly show off first apperance of sub saharan people in european society as "gifts" for european high society.

[Antvietnam]

Siegfried of the Flaming Rose a écrit :

So, in short, he admits the presence of optional same-sex romance and he confirms the presence of the black character. Sounds pretty woke to me, especially by someone who larped as being "based and not politically correct" on SM What a hypocrite.
This discussion should be pinned. Good job man

hes a grifter

[Nikonos]

I'd still like Henry and sir Hans to be the first persons landing on Mars.
With their wives, of course. Gotta have little Martians.

[MacArthur]

5/10 KCD is an RPG, you are responsible for your decisions. If you want Henry to try a same-sex adventure, feel free. If you don’t want to, you don’t have to. All affairs are (and were in KCD1) purely optional. The characters are perfectly aware, that it was a forbidden sin.

Except in every game with Gay romances they change normal male friendship choices into sexual ones.
If there is no setting at game start to remove them, then they will be forced.

Paradox game like CK3 literally has optional settings to add that. not baked in by default like what KCD will have

[007..]

The line from black character from the game's screenshot: "we treat women with great respect in our country"
What is a purpose of this line? To somehow lessen the fact that 70+ black kids on the western countries grow up fatherless?
The only reason someone would put that line there to rewrite the modern problems with this group. Horrible lying people who think they are doing something good. This is not good.
This is not about gaming and having fun, this is literally about trying to insert information about history that was never so.
You know what it reminds me off? When you know well someone who is a pathological liar. When he speaks to you, you know he is lying to you, and he knows that you know but still keeps lying. Lying about societal issues does not help suffering people, it ensures they will keep suffering. You people, helping things stay as they are when changes are desperately need. No surprise that they make the games as "well" as their activism help minorities.

[MacArthur]

He treated the women with respect by running trading routes that slaved 600+ women who were made to walk the desert on feet and carry trades goods to be sold all over Northern Africa.

10/10 History representation by Varba

[gosuprime]

So we lost Theresa in exchange for gay sex, great work DEI dev team

[Mr D Grim]

007.. a écrit :

The line from black character from the game's screenshot: "we treat women with great respect in our country"
What is a purpose of this line? To somehow lessen the fact that 70+ black kids on the western countries grow up fatherless?
The only reason someone would put that line there to rewrite the modern problems with this group. Horrible lying people who think they are doing something good. This is not good.
This is not about gaming and having fun, this is literally about trying to insert information about history that was never so.
You know what it reminds me off? When you know well someone who is a pathological liar. When he speaks to you, you know he is lying to you, and he knows that you know but still keeps lying. Lying about societal issues does not help suffering people, it ensures they will keep suffering. You people, helping things stay as they are when changes are desperately need. No surprise that they make the games as "well" as their activism help minorities.

or.. you know... those people actually thought they treated woman better? every culture in history thought that they did it better then the other... you people seriously can't see past your own nose and modern crap these days.

[Zaber]

that's a massive post just for him to say ♥♥♥♥ you all my BlackRock money is more important

[Freaky Doktor Dům]

CelkyN6 a écrit :

Honestly the main thing I take issue with is the muslim guy being ahistorically black and preaching about how they treat women better, that is unquestionably woke pandering and I'm at the point where I just wont fund that stuff regardless of how small it is. This narrative pushing and historical revisionism has real world consequences.

I hate to break it Down to you. but the guy kinda can't be muslim.

[HAPPY]

Blackrock > Embracer > Plaion > Warhorse > Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 > Wallet closed.

[H-Foundry PIXIV]

Robert II. Flanderský a écrit :

I find it funny, that during first KCD he spoke very confidently that no black people were in bohemia in 15 century. And how homosexuality was prohibited by the society. Which aligns with what we know about the period.

And even after KCD backlash about lacking diversity etc. Vavra still stayed his ground.

But now with KCD 2 there is black guy Musa. Which immidietly go against his preaching. And gay scene for guy thats not even such high status that he can "in secret" do it.

With all that, it seems that this was just demanded by the publisher and Vavra just wants to put fake story, that this was planned all along.

The biggest sin here is the fraudulent posturing as 'based'. No other developer has done this yet, so he'll be the first and make people more suspicious of devs.

https://files.catbox.moe/bbua7o.JPG

Highlighting the nothingburger bullet point about skippable or not cutscenes whilst omitting that it was more about a gay sex scene. Acting like he debunked something important lol.

Then "Gay characters were already in KCD1." as confirmation of what the important point was.

Retcon of Henry being gay in part 1. When his own words say he was straight and nothing in the game indicates gay, but affirms hetero. Now the story is they wanted him to be gay but there wasn't enough budget for it (lol).

Inquerion a écrit :

Saudi Arabia is considering banning them due to that LGBT content (same sex adventure as he called it). He must be aware of this.

If you think about it there's two outcomes now that he's made declarations about the bannings in countries.

1 He's confident they won't ban it, probably because he knows there's no actual gay sex scene (probably implied stuff at worst).

2 The alternative is Saudi Arabia will allow a gay sex scene to happen (and that's not gonna happen). Heck I would say heavily implied romance (same sex fade to black and bathhouse innuendo would also not be kosher there and be banned).

[Robert II. Flanderský]

H-Foundry PIXIV a écrit :

Robert II. Flanderský a écrit :

I find it funny, that during first KCD he spoke very confidently that no black people were in bohemia in 15 century. And how homosexuality was prohibited by the society. Which aligns with what we know about the period.

And even after KCD backlash about lacking diversity etc. Vavra still stayed his ground.

But now with KCD 2 there is black guy Musa. Which immidietly go against his preaching. And gay scene for guy thats not even such high status that he can "in secret" do it.

With all that, it seems that this was just demanded by the publisher and Vavra just wants to put fake story, that this was planned all along.

The biggest sin here is the fraudulent posturing as 'based'. No other developer has done this yet, so he'll be the first and make people more suspicious of devs.

https://files.catbox.moe/bbua7o.JPG

Lot of modern people are "based" until money comes around.
What i hate about it is that hes really "vocal" about his politics, based approaches etc.
And now, when, i guess, publisher forced him to do some diversity. He tries to cover it as it was planned all the way at the start. Instead of just saying hey, this were the quotes, we were trying to integrate them as "realistically" as possible. Which for me, would be completely acceptable approach. But he tries to keep his image.

To be honest, gay scene is not such problem. As that could happen, it is question around what circumstances. But whatever. Not that far fetched.
But Sub-saharian trade being in kuttenberg is far fetched. And goes against his views which he expressed in KD1 and on his facebook and other socials.

[Mr.Pink]

Robert II. Flanderský a écrit :

To be honest, gay scene is not such problem. As that could happen, it is question around what circumstances. But whatever. Not that far fetched.

Without spoiling a lot, the gay scene is especially unforgivable, because a innocent bromance was completely spoiled by sodomy for no sensible reason but bringing degeneracy into something pure.

I mean Embracer is Swedish and... the Swedes are known for their femboys aren't they...
Vavra just dances to the tunes his owsers play after all, having a Bugatti is nice after all.

We stil have KCD I, the game is great and will always be that outliner I guess, a game funded by gamers.