GAY WAS NOT INVENTED YET. HISTORICALLY INNACURATE - Poetry For The Bigoted Mind

[Boa]

First off, I did some digging, and as I suspected, gay wasn't invented until February 2nd, 2009. AHA! This was when RuPaul's Drag Race first premiered on Logo TV.

All jokes aside, homophobes, ask yourself this question... who are you mad at? Gay people for existing, or your own personal insecurities? I know that you're threatened by Gay folk and their ability to be themselves unapologetically. It must be difficult seeing them enjoying themselves while your insecurities stop you from being that confident and well put together.

Isn't it difficult to see how they have a caring community around them when you barely have anyone by your side? I can probably imagine how hard it is to see the LGBT community interacting with each other with such love and brotherhood while all you have is hate in your heart that doesn't discourage or inconvenience anyone but yourself.

Look, you play video games because you enjoy them, and you're upset when they have reminders of your insecurities baked right into the lore. Unfortunate. But there's a great solution, do better. Every day, learn and contextualize yourself with the things you fear, come to understand them instead of hate them... work on yourself, and learn you're not a perfect person and you need to improve your behavior and cognition.

You've been manipulated into an ideology of victim-hood, that others are the blame for your discomforts and negative feelings, and not that you're the one to blame. Take recognition of your shortcomings, take responsibility and don't live in this delusion that other people are to blame for the problems you have with the world.

Much love, I hope the future you is somebody you can actually be happy being.

[Friends with Benedicts]

It's extremely trollish to create a thread such as this. Doesn't matter if you hide it under the veil of "I'm criticizing homophobes, I'm not one of them" nah, you're just flaming culture wars and not having a proper discussions. This only serves to poralize people further.

Shameful display op

[Alasdair]

Автор сообщения: DaciValt

Автор сообщения: Alasdair

Early life checks out, lmao. He wasn’t Austrian at all—he was a Jew who lived in Hungary. His parents were Jews from Hungary, and while he was born in Austria, they moved back to Hungary shortly after. The term 'homosexuality' was coined by him in 1869, and 'heterosexuality' was introduced in the early 1890s by James G. Kiernan. Heterosexuality was simply the norm—and still is—so there was no need to define it. It’s what’s different that requires definitions.

This is like the fish and water analogy: if we had always lived in the ocean, we wouldn’t think to define ourselves as ocean creatures. The water is invisible to the fish because it’s all they’ve ever known. You can only contrast and define something when there’s difference. Just as fish don’t define themselves by the water they live in, people living within dominant norms—whether sexual, racial, or cultural—often don’t define themselves by those norms. They only become aware of their 'ocean' when they encounter difference or when the norm is challenged.

This is semantics about what is the "norm." Homosexuality is as old in human society as heterosexuality.

A cultural "norm" of the past few hundred years out of over 10 thousand is not the same as a normal state of the human experience.

So maybe... just maybe they didn't need to define homosexuality either.

Plus I find it quite ironic for all these guys saying it's awful, put enough of them in a place on their own for a while and they start having sex with eachother. Ask anyone who's served in something like the Navy or been to Prison.

The deep underbelly of male sexuality they want to pretend doesn't exist, well it does and everyone knows it does... They just don't like talking about it and honestly I couldn't give a damn how uncomfortable it makes them.

Homosexuality was also historically defined as pederasty or sodomy, the term homosexuality was invented because the activist thought those two terms were offensive, and wanted to create politically correct language essentially. My point still stands about the normal not really needing a word to define it. it's normal it's what people simply are anything that deviates from that is where you define a separation from the norm.

[DaciValt]

Автор сообщения: Alasdair

Homosexuality was also historically defined as pederasty or sodomy, the term homosexuality was invented because the activist thought those two terms were offensive, and wanted to create politically correct language essentially. My point still stands about the normal not really needing a word to define it. it's normal it's what people simply are anything that deviates from that is where you define a separation from the norm.

Yeah and sex between man and a woman was called consummation, copulation or fornication (if it was outside of marriage.)

Yes it is offensive, as offensive as accusing someone of fornication and committing a mortal sin for the crime of having sex.

Pederasty itself is very very specific, it was a Greek term for adult men with very young boys because girls remained within the household at young ages and protected. We call that paedophilia and sexual abuse nowadays... All because guys wanted to get their rocks off.

Just lends to my previous point that male sexuality will sleep with anything if females aren't around for a period of time. Young boys don't really have their masculine features yet after-all so them being boys wasn't a huge deal apparently.

Bare in mind the moment that young boy started growing facial hair the relationship was stopped and the man went to seek marriage with a woman who had come of age and was presented to the public for marriage.

So ya know.... a straight guy mainly. But we don't even have to look at ancient Greeks to know it to be true, we just have to look at male dominated and isolated environments in our very own society.

I mean everyone jokes about what happens to men in a prison environment but it's very weird how in prisons all over the world straight men devolve into rape and having sex with other men isn't it?

Is there some secret cabal that makes all these men individually stop being "normal" at the convenient times when it means they wont be able to have sex if they stuck to it? I doubt it.

[sir radzig]

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Hans was Gay already in KCD1.

Took a pro to notice,

and I spotted it.

no he was in love with butcher girl

[Orion Invictus]

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Hans was Gay already in KCD1.

Took a pro to notice,

and I spotted it.

Based name.

[Alasdair]

Автор сообщения: DaciValt

Автор сообщения: Alasdair

Homosexuality was also historically defined as pederasty or sodomy, the term homosexuality was invented because the activist thought those two terms were offensive, and wanted to create politically correct language essentially. My point still stands about the normal not really needing a word to define it. it's normal it's what people simply are anything that deviates from that is where you define a separation from the norm.

Yeah and sex between man and a woman was called consummation, copulation or fornication (if it was outside of marriage.)

Yes it is offensive, as offensive as accusing someone of fornication and committing a mortal sin for the crime of having sex.

Pederasty itself is very very specific, it was a Greek term for adult men with very young boys because girls remained within the household at young ages and protected. We call that paedophilia and sexual abuse nowadays... All because guys wanted to get their rocks off.

Just lends to my previous point that male sexuality will sleep with anything if females aren't around for a period of time. Young boys don't really have their masculine features yet after-all so them being boys wasn't a huge deal apparently.

Bare in mind the moment that young boy started growing facial hair the relationship was stopped and the man went to seek marriage with a woman who had come of age and was presented to the public for marriage.

So ya know.... a straight guy mainly. But we don't even have to look at ancient Greeks to know it to be true, we just have to look at male dominated and isolated environments in our very own society.

Very easily these supposed barriers break down when they get horny enough.

Yeah and you'll eat almost anything with out food given time like hans and henry talking about eating a dog turd with some pepper or horse raddish, desperation, lets people put aside their preferences, it's still not normal behavior. The furthest into queer territory the average man is is they watch femboy, futa or trans porn.

Very few men are attracted to masculine features, historically pederasty was infinitely more common than homosexuality because boys haven't developed masculine features like you said, meaning the norm for men is always and has always been being attracted to femininity. maybe you could say I'm moving the goal post here, but I don't think the majority of men are attracted to masc at all.

Someone putting their fingers over their nose and eating disgusting slop because they have to or feel they have to on a primal level is different and doesn't mean the average dude is after any hole he can't get.

Even to this day in gay culture there's a term called "twink death" which is the point where young men lose sexual value, because they start looking masculine and not femmine around 25-30.

[DragynDance]

It took top scientists years of research and millions of dollars of government grants to finally discover that pp can also go into bunghole and not only vayjayjay, this is truth. One of the greatest inventions of modern time.

[DaciValt]

Автор сообщения: Alasdair

Yeah and you'll eat almost anything with out food given time like hans and henry talking about eating a dog turd with some pepper or horse raddish, desperation, lets people put aside their preferences, it's still not normal behavior. The furthest into queer territory the average man is is they watch femboy, futa or trans porn.

Very few men are attracted to masculine features, historically pederasty was infinitely more common than homosexuality because boys haven't developed masculine features like you said, meaning the norm for men is always and has always been being attracted to femininity. maybe you could say I'm moving the goal post here, but I don't think the majority of men are attracted to masc at all.

Someone putting their fingers over their nose and eating disgusting slop because they have to or feel they have to on a primal level is different and doesn't mean the average dude is after any hole he can't get.

Food is a life or death circumstance. You are not going to die without sex, it's solely for self gratification.

No I dont think most men are attracted to masculine features, my point is that the supposed barriers towards same sex intercourse get removed very conveniently for that self gratification. Femininity isn't strictly female afterall... It's disgusting to do it with a boy... well unless he acts enough like a girl in the right circumstance.

However they will look down on other men who are in loving relationships with other men, that is what makes them uncomfortable. Not all these circumstances where their straightness goes out the window which they just want to sweep under the rug or play off as a joke.

[Alasdair]

I don't think everything is exclusively nature, nurture, or choice, it's all three, there are influences and ultimately people choose what they want to do. that's basically what the conversation is about determinism and choice the environment, the body, and the ego making it's choices all with a different coat of paint or another.

[DaciValt]

Автор сообщения: Alasdair

I don't think everything is exclusively nature, nurture, or choice, it's all three, there are influences and ultimately people choose what they want to do. that's basically what the conversation is about determinism and choice the environment, the body, and the ego making it's choices all with a different coat of paint or another.

That is true.

However I will say that if their is a choice present to sleep with the same sex when convenient for straight men then they really need to look to themselves. Their sexual appetites and urges are totally within their own control in most circumstances.

It's hardly a principle if it goes out the window when moments of adversity arise especially when we are talking global scale patterns of behaviour. No-one makes them do the things they do.

Maybe when I see a effort from these guys to stop themselves from actively engaging in the behaviour they demonise others for then I'll take their critiques more seriously. I am not holding my breath however.

If a man not having sex is akin to a person either eating or dying then i think it's safe to say it's pretty widespread... Which I know it is.

Been dealing with straight men all my life as a gay one, give them a few months or years without sex and all of a sudden they can get mighty curious when they cant get a girl. I am a grown man too, stubble, jawline, adams apple and everything.

To all the other gay men out there, don't do anything with these guys. They'll use you for a couple of weeks and go right back to being "straight." Not done it myself but have seen it happen more times than i can count.

[Oozy Monster]

Автор сообщения: sir radzig

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Hans was Gay already in KCD1.

Took a pro to notice,

and I spotted it.

no he was in love with butcher girl

That's what I thought, too. I can't read into things that are gay-coded and just assume most men that are friends are just that.

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Автор сообщения: sir radzig

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Hans was Gay already in KCD1.

Took a pro to notice,

and I spotted it.

no he was in love with butcher girl

No, there you are wrong.

Hans was in love in the butcher girls Father, the girl was just a cover to get close to that hunk.

[Dansoprazole]

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Автор сообщения: sir radzig

no he was in love with butcher girl

No, there you are wrong.

Hans was in love in the butcher girls Father, the girl was just a cover to get close to that hunk.

Degenerates like you need to repent, smh

[Corinthas]

Автор сообщения: Chillennial

Why should I be forced to play a gay character if I'm not gay and have no interest in being gay?

Yes the international warhorse police will swat your home and FORCE YOU TO CLICK ON THE GAY OPTION!!!1!!1! (After they forced you to buy the game first natch!) Waaah woke touched my micropeen!!1

[n0mad23]

"Well I'm not the world's most masculine man
But I know what I am and I'm glad I'm a man
And so is Lola" - Ray Davies