Medieval Art, and Literature as proof of multi-racial presence in Europe.

[Googledebunker]

Since there seems to be a lot of confusion about the prevalence of dark skinned people in Medieval Europe with claims that it is a "modern" injection, or "History revisionism" I have compiled a list of art, stories, and poems from that time period as proof that there are multiple instances of more than just white folks leaving their mark on history in Medieval Europe.

This is for educational and respectful discussion only. If you disagree with the evidence that I have provided, then please provide evidence to back up your opinion.
Othello [images.squarespace-cdn.com]

Here is an artist depiction of Othello, by William Mulready painted during the 19th Century

The Moorish general from William Shakespeare’s Othello may be one of the most famous depictions of black people in medieval European history. Though a fictional character, his story is based on “Un Capitano Moro” ("A Moorish Captain") by Italian writer Cinthio, first published in 1565.

Further context: Moorish peoples were Muslims from NW Africa.

A Moorish Captain by Cinthio
https://shakespeare-navigators.ewu.edu/othello/Osource.html

Othello by Willaim Shakespeare
https://www.folger.edu/explore/shakespeares-works/othello/read/

The Sybil Agrippina by Jan Van Den Hoecke 1630's Oil Painting on display at the Museum Kunstpalast in Düsseldorf

The Sybil Agrippina [upload.wikimedia.org]

The Sybil is shown here with a whip and a crown of thorns, both attributes of Christ's Flagellation. She was one of the 12 that foretold the coming of Christ.

chafariz d'el rey (The King's Fountain painting depicts the scene of Lisbon Portugal in the then Kingdom of Portugal the painting was made in the 1570-1580 time period.
The King's Fountain[upload.wikimedia.org]

It clearly depicts a multiracial scene as a slice of life from that time period, and is an example of Globalization during the Renaissance period. The painting currently is on display at the Pálacio da Bacalhôa in Azeitão, Portugal

The Adoration of the Magi by Pierter Coecke, Netherlands 1502-1550
The Adoration of the Magi by Pierter Coecke [www.artnews.com]

The Adoration of the Magi by Gerard David, Netherlands 1520

The Adoration of the Magi by Gerard David[images.metmuseum.org]

Here is another iconic Adoration scene. Following a star, three kings unite for a much-anticipated meeting with baby ♥♥♥♥♥. They lay before him gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh.

Sir Morien- The Black Knight of the Round Table

Sir Morien The Black Knight [th-thumbnailer.cdn-si-edu.com]
Here is a depiction of the Moorish knight that was a Knight of the Round table. The manuscript pictured above is dated to 1350.

https://www.ancienttexts.org/library/celtic/ctexts/morien.html
A translated text from the book of Morien and how he became a knight of the Round Table during his meetings and travels with Lancelot and Gawain.

a relevant quote to support his depiction:

On the ninth day there came riding towards them a knight on a goodly steed, and well armed withal. He was all black, even as I tell ye: his head, his body, and his hands were all black, saving only his teeth.

The story of Sir Morien, also known as Moriaen, was first written in the second half of the 13th century by a Flemish author. The story originated in the Low Countries, specifically in the Flemish, Brabant, and Holland regions

The Engagement [upload.wikimedia.org]

The Engagement of St Ursula and Prince Etherius (also known as Marriage of St. Ursula and Prince Conan) is a panel from the Saint Auta Altarpiece commissioned in 1522 by Eleanor, Queen of Portugal for the Convent of Madre de Deus, Lisbon. It features a group of African musicians at the Portuguese court

Yes the majority of people in Europe were White, but there is no historical revisionism occurring by acknowledging the presence of black people from working class to nobility in Medieval Europe as evidenced by the multiple examples I have provided.

All in all seeing a couple of black people across the entirety of the game isn't going to suddenly make it historically inaccurate, but rather MORE historically accurate.

If you know of any other stories, poems, or works of art from this time period, please feel free to share them. Thanks!

[Cassidy0z]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Avatar of Prince Cera:

So you think the avatars of users on Steam are real people? This isn't Facebook. It's Steam, where you can have pretty much whatever picture you want as an avatar. There is no real person with this picture named Vixzarian or whomever you're referring to.

Yep you cut and pasted the real picture of a poster here on steam and are using it as your avatar and everyone knows you did so on purpose because he used to mop the floor with you in debates.

So yep real person.

[Disfear]

A simple question...

Africa is big, has long story, bigger culture.

Why nobody make a game set in Africa? Why they have to put africans-thing in west-culture based games?

Why nobody make a great game on the story of Thomas Sakara?

Pheraps he was killed by CIA with they french friends because he was exit the rules of IMF and WBG?

Who know...

[Googledebunker]

Diposting pertama kali oleh F A T B $ $ $ R T D:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Avatar of Prince Cera:

Meister Theoderich of Prague painted the picture of "Svatý Mořic" on the walls of Castle Karlštejn between 1359 and 1368.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Meister_Theoderich_von_Prag_024.jpg/944px-Meister_Theoderich_von_Prag_024.jpg

yea some repainting of an egyptian saint in the 3rd century sure justify the appearance of a west african muslim musa

So a Bohemian managed to use clairvoyance to paint this? Or were there Black people around that he used as reference for the picture?

Since we're on the topic of "magic" do you have any evidence that Bohemian pagans summoned demons using ritual magic?

Would love to see a link to it since you seem to be such a "champion" historical accuracy.

[Googledebunker]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Disfear:

A simple question...

Africa is big, has long story, bigger culture.

Why nobody make a game set in Africa? Why they have to put africans-thing in west-culture based games?

Why nobody make a great game on the story of Thomas Sakara?

Pheraps he was killed by CIA with they french friends because he was exit the rules of IMF and WBG?

Who know...

Why is it okay for US, and Japanese development studios to make games based on European culture?

[Cerberus]

Pure bait.

[Googledebunker]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Disfear:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Avatar of Prince Cera:

Why is it okay for US, and Japanese development studios to make games based on European culture?

Why are you so stupid than you can't understand simple concept?

So you want War Horse to make a game set in Africa?
Probably better places you can give this kind of feedback, because it has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.

[FPS]

reddit lies

[Googledebunker]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Drunk Rambo {The Dirty Dozen}:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Avatar of Prince Cera:

So you're trying to claim that all the artists, and writers from around that time period were lying? Wrong? Or what?

Would love to see some actual references or sources to back up this claim that these are some how fabricated.

Are the adventures of Narnia books real? This is how you sound.

Is Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 real?

[DISC]

Why does every game need to have a black character? You can do all the mental gymnastics you want to justify why Musa could have been there, but why does he need to be there?

[Googledebunker]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Drunk Rambo {The Dirty Dozen}:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Avatar of Prince Cera:

Is Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 real?

It's based on historical events. There are no dragons etc in it. Its fictional obviously but it's based in facts.

So it's not real. Why did you bother to bring up Narnia?

[Googledebunker]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Drunk Rambo {The Dirty Dozen}:

Diposting pertama kali oleh DISC:

Why does every game need to have a black character? You can do all the mental gymnastics you want to justify why Musa could have been there, but why does he need to be there?

Its cultural appropriation and Marxism. Historical cleansing.

So you get your education from fictional videogames?

[Oops, I Crapped My Pants]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Avatar of Prince Cera:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Drunk Rambo {The Dirty Dozen}:

Its cultural appropriation and Marxism. Historical cleansing.

So you get your education from fictional videogames?

No, only from leftist approved sources and Robert Maxwell's (international spy and the father of Ghislaine Maxwell, yup THAT Ghislaine Maxwell) McGraw-Hill textbooks of course.

[^TRXk1^]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Oops, I Crapped My Pants:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Avatar of Prince Cera:

So you get your education from fictional videogames?

No, only from leftist approved sources and Robert Maxwell's (international spy and the father of Ghislaine Maxwell, yup THAT Ghislaine Maxwell) McGraw-Hill textbooks of course.

I always forget that shocking fact and my jaw drops every single time.

[Cassidy0z]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Avatar of Prince Cera:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Drunk Rambo {The Dirty Dozen}:

Its cultural appropriation and Marxism. Historical cleansing.

So you get your education from fictional videogames?

You get your identity from other people so what's the problem?

[DISC]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Avatar of Prince Cera:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Drunk Rambo {The Dirty Dozen}:

Its cultural appropriation and Marxism. Historical cleansing.

So you get your education from fictional videogames?

“Universal literacy was supposed to educate the common man to control his environment. Once he could read and write he would have a mind fit to rule. So ran the democratic doctrine. But instead of a mind, universal literacy has given him rubber stamps, rubber stamps inked with advertising slogans, with editorials, with published scientific data, with the trivialities of the tabloids and the platitudes of history, but quite innocent of original thought. Each man's rubber stamps are the duplicates of millions of others, so that when those millions are exposed to the same stimuli, all receive identical imprints. It may seem an exaggeration to say that the American public gets most of its ideas in this wholesale fashion. The mechanism by which ideas are disseminated on a large scale is propaganda, in the broad sense of an organized effort to spread a particular belief or doctrine.”
― Edward L. Bernays, Propaganda