Remember, NO WOKE

[MayMay]

Look at Wukong, people don't want any of that lgbt, black inclusive and woke garbage in a real medieval central european setting. This game already inclusive enough with hungarian, german, cuman, slovak, czech, austrian and polish

[echoes222]

hope it's woke AF, I want to see salty salty in*ell tears in the forums :)

[Menumorut]

Цитата допису echoes222:

hope it's woke AF, I want to see salty salty in*ell tears in the forums :)

I hope the same, because we want a realistic game according to those times, when the only black people in Europe were slaves of some royal court as an exotic accessory. That's the story they keep telling you, white bad, black good, or now you just want us to be good friends in those days where the white man is no longer a slave owner, but a good comrade in arms, with equal rights, and black knights are everywhere ?

And for the other LGBTQ diversity, in a time where people were burned at the stake just because they had a black cat near their houses, you can guess the rest. Now we can have tears

[Vezner]

"Go woke, go broke." Look at Rocksteady for the most recent proof.

[echoes222]

Цитата допису Menumorut:

Цитата допису echoes222:

hope it's woke AF, I want to see salty salty in*ell tears in the forums :)

I hope the same, because we want a realistic game according to those times, when the only black people in Europe were slaves of some royal court as an exotic accessory. That's the story they keep telling you, white bad, black good, or now you just want us to be good friends in those days where the white man is no longer a slave owner, but a good comrade in arms, with equal rights, and black knights are everywhere ?

in that part of Europe you could easily meet jewish, arabic, mongolian, turkish or egyptian traders and diplomats, especially in larger cities, which Kutna Hora was at that time. Also, "slave accessory"? Wrong times, mate.

Цитата допису Menumorut:

And for the other LGBTQ diversity, in a time where people were burned at the stake just because they had a black cat near their houses, you can guess the rest. Now we can have tears

Again, you're mixing up centuries. You are talking about reformation/counter-reformation era. Which started after Hus burning and later rebellion. Which hasn't happened in the game yet. Do you believe that lgbt people didn't exist back then? You stupid or something? They wouldn't have parades, but they were there. And if you think that some inquisitor would bother traveling to some provincial sh1thole to burn some Zbyszko that banged some Pietrek, you're deluded ;) or do you think that local priest would burn them? :D most local priests back then didn't even know how to read or write and they didn't even properly knew dogma :D you must be murican, right?

[Menumorut]

Цитата допису echoes222:

Цитата допису Menumorut:

I hope the same, because we want a realistic game according to those times, when the only black people in Europe were slaves of some royal court as an exotic accessory. That's the story they keep telling you, white bad, black good, or now you just want us to be good friends in those days where the white man is no longer a slave owner, but a good comrade in arms, with equal rights, and black knights are everywhere ?

in that part of Europe you could easily meet jewish, arabic, mongolian, turkish or egyptian traders and diplomats, especially in larger cities, which Kutna Hora was at that time. Also, "slave accessory"? Wrong times, mate.

Цитата допису Menumorut:

And for the other LGBTQ diversity, in a time where people were burned at the stake just because they had a black cat near their houses, you can guess the rest. Now we can have tears

Again, you're mixing up centuries. You are talking about reformation/counter-reformation era. Which started after Hus burning and later rebellion. Which hasn't happened in the game yet. Do you believe that lgbt people didn't exist back then? You stupid or something? They wouldn't have parades, but they were there. And if you think that some inquisitor would bother traveling to some provincial sh1thole to burn some Zbyszko that banged some Pietrek, you're deluded ;) or do you think that local priest would burn them? :D most local priests back then didn't even know how to read or write and they didn't even properly knew dogma :D you must be murican, right?

I haven't say your gay friends didn't exist back then, but they were burned on a stake, so there is nothing mixed here. 😂

[KillGates666]

Africans built Europe noob ! Kings hired Africans as advisers in every court. This is bs !

Цитата допису Menumorut:

Цитата допису echoes222:

in that part of Europe you could easily meet jewish, arabic, mongolian, turkish or egyptian traders and diplomats, especially in larger cities, which Kutna Hora was at that time. Also, "slave accessory"? Wrong times, mate.


Again, you're mixing up centuries. You are talking about reformation/counter-reformation era. Which started after Hus burning and later rebellion. Which hasn't happened in the game yet. Do you believe that lgbt people didn't exist back then? You stupid or something? They wouldn't have parades, but they were there. And if you think that some inquisitor would bother traveling to some provincial sh1thole to burn some Zbyszko that banged some Pietrek, you're deluded ;) or do you think that local priest would burn them? :D most local priests back then didn't even know how to read or write and they didn't even properly knew dogma :D you must be murican, right?

I haven't say your gay friends didn't exist back then, but they were burned on a stake, so there is nothing mixed here. 😂

[Menumorut]

Цитата допису echoes222:

Цитата допису Menumorut:

I hope the same, because we want a realistic game according to those times, when the only black people in Europe were slaves of some royal court as an exotic accessory. That's the story they keep telling you, white bad, black good, or now you just want us to be good friends in those days where the white man is no longer a slave owner, but a good comrade in arms, with equal rights, and black knights are everywhere ?

in that part of Europe you could easily meet jewish, arabic, mongolian, turkish or egyptian traders and diplomats, especially in larger cities, which Kutna Hora was at that time. Also, "slave accessory"? Wrong times, mate.

Цитата допису Menumorut:

And for the other LGBTQ diversity, in a time where people were burned at the stake just because they had a black cat near their houses, you can guess the rest. Now we can have tears

Again, you're mixing up centuries. You are talking about reformation/counter-reformation era. Which started after Hus burning and later rebellion. Which hasn't happened in the game yet. Do you believe that lgbt people didn't exist back then? You stupid or something? They wouldn't have parades, but they were there. And if you think that some inquisitor would bother traveling to some provincial sh1thole to burn some Zbyszko that banged some Pietrek, you're deluded ;) or do you think that local priest would burn them? :D most local priests back then didn't even know how to read or write and they didn't even properly knew dogma :D you must be murican, right?

Nope, i'm a g1psy from Romania. My people were impaled for only having a black cat, and you talk about bs diversity in those times..

[Drako110]

Цитата допису kmfdm:

It seems like everyone is a historian these days. Ironically, those who paid no attention in history classes are now the most vocal.

For the sake of historical accuracy, it’s incorrect to depict only white characters in medieval Europe. The world was already massively globalized during the Bronze Age, millennia before the events of Kingdom Come. People from various regions were trading and mingling. You could find Scythians, Illyrians, and Chinese trading with Canaanites and Egyptians along the Mediterranean coast.

In medieval times, the situation became even more complex. Historical records show that Arabic and Black people were present everywhere, including royal courts. Erasing them from history is essentially whitewashing it.

Similarly, the erasure of LGBTQ people is also evident. In the 12th century, even in Slavic countries, there were same-sex unions known as Bratotvorenie and Sesteromilstvo, where two men or two women respectively would enter a lifelong union blessed by a priest. These practices were deleted from history in the 18th and 19th centuries due to heavy influences from heteronormative and Eurocentric ideologies.

"Slavic gay unions".
Here comes a level 0 private steam account with a bunch of lies to forward his political agenda.
As a slav(Pole) that knows his own history. Especially that of my own country that btw. is placed in the middle of Europe.
I can safely say all of what that guy said is bunch of baseless lies and attempt at historical revisionism.

Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth was one of the more tolerant(Classical meaning of that word) Kingdoms, if not the most tolerant one in Europe, back in those days. Which means people would tolerate you, to a point.
But the moment you would try to do what the woke are doing, to even smallest degree, you would very quickly find the limits of that tolerance.
I.E you had far more freedom when it came to religion and beleifs in general than in the rest of Europe.
But nobody would tolerate someone openly gay, which is a sin and commonly called "Sodoma".
You would either get banished(If you happen to be rich and influential enough) or "Gromada"(Your local village community) would take care of you. And nobody would hear from you ever again.

[echoes222]

Цитата допису Menumorut:

Цитата допису echoes222:

in that part of Europe you could easily meet jewish, arabic, mongolian, turkish or egyptian traders and diplomats, especially in larger cities, which Kutna Hora was at that time. Also, "slave accessory"? Wrong times, mate.


Again, you're mixing up centuries. You are talking about reformation/counter-reformation era. Which started after Hus burning and later rebellion. Which hasn't happened in the game yet. Do you believe that lgbt people didn't exist back then? You stupid or something? They wouldn't have parades, but they were there. And if you think that some inquisitor would bother traveling to some provincial sh1thole to burn some Zbyszko that banged some Pietrek, you're deluded ;) or do you think that local priest would burn them? :D most local priests back then didn't even know how to read or write and they didn't even properly knew dogma :D you must be murican, right?

Nope, i'm a g1psy from Romania. My people were impaled for only having a black cat, and you talk about bs diversity in those times..

actual persecution of romani people (funny how you used racial slur on your own, makes me think you are full of poo, mate) started in XVI century (like Augsburg diet), prior to that, romani weren't treated worse than jews or other nomadic people. There were still pagans around, poland-lithuania was bordering golden orde, egyptian or turkish traders and diplomats were active in CEE. You seem to be another ignorant person, not your fault tho. It's never too late to educate yourself however, so go on, read something educational.

In essence, while black people would be extremely rare, jews, arabs, mongols, turks and other non-white people would be around. Especially in important trade cities.

[Menumorut]

Цитата допису echoes222:

Цитата допису Menumorut:

Nope, i'm a g1psy from Romania. My people were impaled for only having a black cat, and you talk about bs diversity in those times..

actual persecution of romani people (funny how you used racial slur on your own, makes me think you are full of poo, mate) started in XVI century (like Augsburg diet), prior to that, romani weren't treated worse than jews or other nomadic people. There were still pagans around, poland-lithuania was bordering golden orde, egyptian or turkish traders and diplomats were active in CEE. You seem to be another ignorant person, not your fault tho. It's never too late to educate yourself however, so go on, read something educational.

In essence, while black people would be extremely rare, jews, arabs, mongols, turks and other non-white people would be around. Especially in important trade cities.

Man, stop being so delusional. Yes, there were traders of different races, not as many as you think, but that's not part of the diversity and inclusion you guys want in this game, or, why dont you just say so, you just want jews, arabs, mongols, turks as traders in this game. Thats great, anithing else you may liek to see ?
Some 🌈🏳️‍🌈 !?

[echoes222]

Цитата допису Menumorut:

Цитата допису echoes222:

actual persecution of romani people (funny how you used racial slur on your own, makes me think you are full of poo, mate) started in XVI century (like Augsburg diet), prior to that, romani weren't treated worse than jews or other nomadic people. There were still pagans around, poland-lithuania was bordering golden orde, egyptian or turkish traders and diplomats were active in CEE. You seem to be another ignorant person, not your fault tho. It's never too late to educate yourself however, so go on, read something educational.

In essence, while black people would be extremely rare, jews, arabs, mongols, turks and other non-white people would be around. Especially in important trade cities.

Man, stop being so delusional. Yes, there were traders of different races, not as many as you think, but that's not part of the diversity and inclusion you guys want in this game, or, why dont you just say so, you just want jews, arabs, mongols, turks as traders in this game. Thats great, anithing else you may liek to see ?
Some 🌈🏳️‍🌈 !?

there was plenty of them actually. Poland had biggest jewish community in Europe, plenty of them in Bohemia as well. Along with other mentioned ethnic groups/nationalities. So actually, portraying Kutna Hora citizens as bohemians and some germans would be historically inaccurate. Rattay? Sure, it was small and insignificant town. But Kutna Hora was quite large and important trade and political centre. As for lgbt people, not openly, no, but it was happening and these people existed then just like they exist now.

[KillGates666]

No first nation Aztec traders? That dosent seem inclusive

[Vasily Zaytsev]

Remember how they tried to push the Yasuke was a samurai myth? Where did that activist dude behind that myth went? Oh right his program was scraped and he was booted out of the Uni, yet some woke fascists still believe that nonsense.

[echoes222]

Цитата допису Vasily Zaytsev:

Remember how they tried to push the Yasuke was a samurai myth? Where did that activist dude behind that myth went? Oh right his program was scraped and he was booted out of the Uni, yet some woke fascists still believe that nonsense.

what does it have to do with the fact that CEE had plenty of non-europeans or non-slavic people in large trade cities?

[KillGates666]

AZTECS were pioneers when it came to climate change. They realised humans were causing it and even sacrificed their own people to save the planet. And you don't even want include them as traders of knowledge in the game. Europe would know nothing without them when it comes to saving the planet. They should be included !

Цитата допису echoes222:

Цитата допису Menumorut:

Man, stop being so delusional. Yes, there were traders of different races, not as many as you think, but that's not part of the diversity and inclusion you guys want in this game, or, why dont you just say so, you just want jews, arabs, mongols, turks as traders in this game. Thats great, anithing else you may liek to see ?
Some 🌈🏳️‍🌈 !?

there was plenty of them actually. Poland had biggest jewish community in Europe, plenty of them in Bohemia as well. Along with other mentioned ethnic groups/nationalities. So actually, portraying Kutna Hora citizens as bohemians and some germans would be historically inaccurate. Rattay? Sure, it was small and insignificant town. But Kutna Hora was quite large and important trade and political centre. As for lgbt people, not openly, no, but it was happening and these people existed then just like they exist now.