Where to go after SPOILER?

[AZRA3L The Eternal]

SPOILER ALERT
DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVEN'T BEATEN 3 GREAT ONES
I've beaten the Narrator then he summons one last train to bust through a sewer. He tells us to go to his studies to progress. I think it's saying to go to NPC city but I've looked almost everywhere and I cannot find this entrance.

I love the game but it really wears down on me due to the limited warp that forces you to constantly backtrack and walk. I'm tired at this point and want to progress.

[AZRA3L The Eternal]

Never mind, it seems that even I was affected by the Great Forgetting.

If you don't want to make the same mistake as I did then:
Return to the Hall of Heroes. Go to the nearby NPC Staging Room. Proceed until you're at the broken sewer entrance.

Not going to lie, this game feels like it's too easy to get lost sometimes but I'm powering through it.

[dat_potatoe]

Got stuck in the same place.

I really, really wish this game had actual fast travel, because the level design just isn't strong enough to support walking. Way too few shortcuts, everything is pretty samey looking and convoluted. Warlock Wilds almost made me drop the game entirely, took everything to power through it.

Failed the pink guy's quest because didn't return to the city to give the NPC the box, as there was no way I was gonna backtrack through three areas, one of them being extremely tedious (warlock wilds), so I eventually kept pushing forward to find a shortcut back just to run into him yelling at me.

[AZRA3L The Eternal]

Originally posted by dat_potatoe:

Got stuck in the same place.

I really, really wish this game had actual fast travel, because the level design just isn't strong enough to support walking. Way too few shortcuts, everything is pretty samey looking and convoluted. Warlock Wilds almost made me drop the game entirely, took everything to power through it.

OMG FR, Warlock Wilds is my least favorite map because of how tricky it is to navigate. It doesn't help that it's connected to one of the most important areas and I hate having to walk through a mostly dark area. I think it's the area thag made me stop caring about getting all the items because of how much you need to backtrack.

I understand the intention of having a set teleport but there is so much walking that I get bored. I sort of wish that there was a nexus of some sort that connected all areas to each other. Anyway thanks for sharing your thoughts and glad to help someone who was stuck too.

[Kraehe]

Someone knows where to go after you cut the strings?

[AZRA3L The Eternal]

You go back to Oreshaft Village, there's a snowy pathway near the merchant. Go until you see the cthulu gate.

[TheBarbaryGhost]

I dunno if I agree with this, Fast Travel would be nice, but the tethering mechanic is basically that, with some caveats.

[AZRA3L The Eternal]

Oh yeah this was when I first started playing the game. I've played the game multiple times so I learned to love how the world is interconnected.

There were shortcuts that I missed which made backtracking much easier. Seriously it really pays off to thoroughly explore the area as much as you can.

Perhaps the most embarassing thing about when I made this thread was how I didn't know there was sprint. So halfway through the game, I was walking area to area.

Anyway the tethering mechanic is not bad as it encourages backtracking. One could see that as a problem in that the warp only works backwards, so if you needed to go to an area that is far ahead of your tethered beacon then oof.

Overall, I changed my tune on the fast travel thing after playing it more thoroughly and learning the shortcuts that connect each region of Nostalgaia.

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by AZRA3L The Eternal:

Oh yeah this was when I first started playing the game. I've played the game multiple times so I learned to love how the world is interconnected.

There were shortcuts that I missed which made backtracking much easier. Seriously it really pays off to thoroughly explore the area as much as you can.

Perhaps the most embarassing thing about when I made this thread was how I didn't know there was sprint. So halfway through the game, I was walking area to area.

Anyway the tethering mechanic is not bad as it encourages backtracking. One could see that as a problem in that the warp only works backwards, so if you needed to go to an area that is far ahead of your tethered beacon then oof.

Overall, I changed my tune on the fast travel thing after playing it more thoroughly and learning the shortcuts that connect each region of Nostalgaia.

Its not a matter of shortcuts, dark souls the inspiration for this game had them as well. But it gave you fast travel at the midpoint of the game and only to certain areas. Why do you think its so easy to fail the one sidequest that locks an additional ending and boss fight. being able to fast travel to key locations would have avoided that. Heck even demon souls the original dark souls was released it had it from the start you unlocked more as you beat bosses at each location.

[AZRA3L The Eternal]

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Originally posted by AZRA3L The Eternal:

Oh yeah this was when I first started playing the game. I've played the game multiple times so I learned to love how the world is interconnected.

There were shortcuts that I missed which made backtracking much easier. Seriously it really pays off to thoroughly explore the area as much as you can.

Perhaps the most embarassing thing about when I made this thread was how I didn't know there was sprint. So halfway through the game, I was walking area to area.

Anyway the tethering mechanic is not bad as it encourages backtracking. One could see that as a problem in that the warp only works backwards, so if you needed to go to an area that is far ahead of your tethered beacon then oof.

Overall, I changed my tune on the fast travel thing after playing it more thoroughly and learning the shortcuts that connect each region of Nostalgaia.

Its not a matter of shortcuts, dark souls the inspiration for this game had them as well. But it gave you fast travel at the midpoint of the game and only to certain areas. Why do you think its so easy to fail the one sidequest that locks an additional ending and boss fight. being able to fast travel to key locations would have avoided that.

Yeah I know which quest you're talking about and I agree with you on how easy it is to miss it and lock yourself out of additional content.

For that one, I'd put the blame more on how the questline was hinted. For instance, you wouldn't have known about the Crone's existence if you did not help out Lady Sco and Nameless Nhero earlier. Also even if you did, you wouldn't know how to navigate through the foggy maze underneath until you found and killed a specific npc enemy.

Even when you'd found the Crone, you probably would have taken the same route back to Oreshaft Village instead of going into the log nearby the grave shortcut which leads to the NPC Backstage Tunnels. Within these tunnels is where you would have found the Reservoir of Pain who gives you another item to give which can make you "fail" the entire questline.

Yeah fast travel would've helped out but it doesn't exactly solve the issue of people not knowing about the quest in the first place. OverTheMoon did say that it was done intentionally to reward curious players and I do agree with him. However, I felt like this questline needed more hints especially with going through the NPC tunnels which seemed like where the player was intended to go.

TLDR; The issue with the Innocent questline isn't the fast travel. It's how the questline doesn't give you much hints on how to start it and where you're supposed to go unless you are extremely thorough.

[Bankai9212]

I found the crone without Sco, the problem is that the innocent is only in one location and is so inconsequential most would probably forget he existed. If he moved around like the other NPC's that could have addressed the issue or even go to the main hub which oddly enough the dlc adds those items to warp to. Only reason to go back to town is the merchant which I missed the entire playthrough so I had little reason to revisit the town.

[AZRA3L The Eternal]

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

I found the crone without Sco, the problem is that the innocent is only in one location and is so inconsequential most would probably forget he existed. If he moved around like the other NPC's that could have addressed the issue or even go to the main hub which oddly enough the dlc adds those items to warp to. Only reason to go back to town is the merchant which I missed the entire playthrough so I had little reason to revisit the town.

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised that people forgot about the Innocent since he is fairly missable in that one room as well as just being there for no reason at first glance.

In hindsight, you'd really go back to Oreshaft Village for the Merchant and remembering a few Relics if you didn't know about the quest so I understand that point.

That being said, I would've preferred if the Crone mentioned sensing the Innocent at the village. In that case, you'd have a better indication of what to do as well as reminding you about where the guy was after you explored four new areas. She could suggest going through the tunnels which is sorta like a hub for going to NPC City, Warlock's Wilds, and Oreshaft Village.

Really the only NPC that mentions the tunnels is the Old Man who tells you this after completing the Keep of the Stolen Crown. At that point, you've missed out on the questline.