saving councill or not?

[ketale]

does it have any conguience later gameplay if you dont save councill. i mean if you save them alliance fleet lost many ships and many more men. more than 4000 crew members for saving one ship?? so isnt smarter save the fleet ships for final battle ME3?

[Jimmy McGill]

If you judge from the Crewmen, saving the Council and the Destiny Ascension is definetly right. And it also has other advantages. You will regret letting them die when you are blamed for being Humanity First.

[Vellari]

For the final battle (pure readiness numbers) it doesn't much matter. You either have stronger human fleet or stronger asari fleet.

Otherwise/storywise I too tend to favor saving the council.

[SwobyJ]

There are some differences, but mostly cosmetic/story tone.

Saving the Destiny Ascension means you'll see it in ME2 and in later big things in ME3. Keeping the Alliance ships however means a stronger Alliance military.

Saving the Council may mean Spectre status is back in ME2 (though it doesn't matter much anymore), if you smooth talk them. Letting them die replaces them with a different Council that isn't as indebted to you. (Spectre status is back in ME3 anyway).

It is ultimately a story thing. However, more 'united galaxy even at cost of humanity' minded people should keep the Destiny Ascension, because it shows up in the trilogy final battle as a distinctly Asari ship.

[GrimAquatic]

Originally posted by lateraali™:

does it have any conguience later gameplay if you dont save councill. i mean if you save them alliance fleet lost many ships and many more men. more than 4000 crew members for saving one ship?? so isnt smarter save the fleet ships for final battle ME3?

If you listen for dialogues carefully you'll find out that Destiny Ascension has crew of 10,000 people.

As for your question regardless of your decision both Destiny Ascension and destroyed human fleet have the same war asset value.

[Jimmy McGill]

Originally posted by GrimAquatic:

Originally posted by lateraali™:

does it have any conguience later gameplay if you dont save councill. i mean if you save them alliance fleet lost many ships and many more men. more than 4000 crew members for saving one ship?? so isnt smarter save the fleet ships for final battle ME3?

If you listen for dialogues carefully you'll find out that Destiny Ascension has cew of 10000 people.

As for your question regardless of your decision both Destiny Ascension and destroyed human fleet have the same war asset value.

You don't need to listen carefully for that. Let them be slain, and they tell you the exact numbers. Save them, and they will just tell you how many humans died to save them.

[ketale]

ok thx comments. i just t play whole series again, but make diffrend decions just see what happend. :)

[Ermitaum]

****SPOILER ALERT****

If you save them, they reinstate your specter status on Mass Effect 2, which changes some dialogs on some of the missions.

[SwobyJ]

Originally posted by ermitaum:

****SPOILER ALERT****

If you save them, they reinstate your specter status on Mass Effect 2, which changes some dialogs on some of the missions.

Yep. I think you also have to be pretty friendly to them in ME2 also, or they won't bother.

[Katya Stevens]

In regards to the final battle in ME3:

Saving the Destiny Ascension gives you 70 War Assets, plus 65 from the Alliance Fifth Fleet (90-25 due to losses in the battle). Total: 135.

Choosing to focus instead on Sovereign loses you the Destiny Ascension (obviously) but bumps Fifth Fleet back up to 90 War Assets. You also gain Admiral Mikhailovich as an asset at 25. Total: 115.

The difference is 20 War Assets.

[Jimmy McGill]

Originally posted by Katya Stevens:

In regards to the final battle in ME3:

Saving the Destiny Ascension gives you 70 War Assets, plus 65 from the Alliance Fifth Fleet (90-25 due to losses in the battle). Total: 135.

Choosing to focus instead on Sovereign loses you the Destiny Ascension (obviously) but bumps Fifth Fleet back up to 90 War Assets. You also gain Admiral Mikhailovich as an asset at 25. Total: 115.

The difference is 20 War Assets.

The point is, the decision is not just about war assets.

[phosTR]

Jesus, play the game yourself, it's a RPG, you have to make the choices, to choose this or that, why ask for opinions?

Some people don't know how to play RPGs.

[Nerevars Goat Univeron]

Originally posted by phosTR:

Jesus, play the game yourself, it's a RPG, you have to make the choices, to choose this or that, why ask for opinions?

Some people don't know how to play RPGs.

He asked how other people did it, and its evident that he has done it himself. Nothing wrong with knowning how others did it.

[Hooligan Spooks]

Originally posted by Katya Stevens:

In regards to the final battle in ME3:

Saving the Destiny Ascension gives you 70 War Assets, plus 65 from the Alliance Fifth Fleet (90-25 due to losses in the battle). Total: 135.

Choosing to focus instead on Sovereign loses you the Destiny Ascension (obviously) but bumps Fifth Fleet back up to 90 War Assets. You also gain Admiral Mikhailovich as an asset at 25. Total: 115.

The difference is 20 War Assets.

Doing a necro because it appeared at the top of my google search, but you forgot the other fleets; the second and the first fleets also get a -25 score as all three fleets are used to save it and not just the fifth. So not saving it gives a total of 100 points (+25 score to the first, second, and third fleets and +25 for the admiral) vs the 70 for saving it.

Which makes sense, in real life the gigantic super ships normally do not fair well compared to superior numbers with better leadership. Just look at the artificial reefs that are the Bismarck and the Yamato.

[Black Hole]

*sigh* whats with these annoying necros lately, why wont they put an auto close thread after a month or 2 of no post?

[The Dude]

Originally posted by Hooligan Spooks:

Originally posted by Katya Stevens:

In regards to the final battle in ME3:

Saving the Destiny Ascension gives you 70 War Assets, plus 65 from the Alliance Fifth Fleet (90-25 due to losses in the battle). Total: 135.

Choosing to focus instead on Sovereign loses you the Destiny Ascension (obviously) but bumps Fifth Fleet back up to 90 War Assets. You also gain Admiral Mikhailovich as an asset at 25. Total: 115.

The difference is 20 War Assets.

Doing a necro because it appeared at the top of my google search, but you forgot the other fleets; the second and the first fleets also get a -25 score as all three fleets are used to save it and not just the fifth. So not saving it gives a total of 100 points (+25 score to the first, second, and third fleets and +25 for the admiral) vs the 70 for saving it.

Which makes sense, in real life the gigantic super ships normally do not fair well compared to superior numbers with better leadership. Just look at the artificial reefs that are the Bismarck and the Yamato.

Necroing the Necro to point out that the negligible amount of war assets only matter if you are playing on an unpatched ME3 and the Destiny Ascension could totally take the Yamoto which was sunk due to the hubris of Imperial Japan ignoring the need for SONAR not because it was a big target that got swarmed.

BTW - If BioWare hired smart writers we would be able to tell the council that we didn't save them, we saved the 10,000 people on the ship they were on. Unfortunately, they only hire dumb writers as they admitted when asked about the indoctrination theory.