Mass Effect (2007)

Mass Effect (2007)

Mass Effect 1 is best one. Then 3, then 2.
Change my mind, you can't.
And 3 is very far from 1. 1 is legit sci fi mediocre (in a good way, kinda like life itself is mediocre) masterpiece, rough, undefined and in that brilliant. Like all those shows about space, but video game. It's like EYE Divine Cybermancy, I enter the game ambient sound touching my ears and I "mus mus" into the game.
Do you understand?
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Ceejay Oct 3, 2020 @ 2:05pm 
It depends.

At the time 1 was amazing, but honestly on replays, certainly for the first thrid of the game there is a lot of boring back and forth, I mean a lot of back and forth involving lots of loads screens, to the point when I replay it now it is annoying as hell. However overall story line wise its still the top, you really cannot play the rest without playing this first.

I love the start of the 2nd game, thought it was very original. The rest is also good.

3 has I would say has a stronger storyline than the 2nd, and gameplay wise is the smoothest having worked out all the bugs from the first 2 games.

However 3's biggest issue Is that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid ass ending, that totally ignores every single bit of sweat and hardwork you put into the whole of the 3 games. Litterally goes sod you pick 1 2 or 3....and all of them are bad endings, not one of them is a great ending for everyone, I know life is not all roses, but everyone of them has some massive negative consequence for picking it, there is not 1 actual good ending, They are awful and the writers should be ashamed

What makes it all the worse is it makes zero sense, none of the endings do, throughout all of the games and previous endings, your decisions actually alter the gameplay, they put in a massive effort to make it feel like you had an impact on the universe, to then throw it all in your face at the end. Bizarre.
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So yes with 3's current ending, its clearly last, buy a huge gigantic amount, even though the rest of 3 is great. Even to the point I play up to the end, and just do not finish it as I really cannot sit through that garbage.

So for me its 1,2,3

Gameplay wise If we ignore the ending of 3, then yes I agree with you. 1, 3, 2.

i do think, bar the ending, (you can tell i have a real problem with the ending lol) this is a great piece of space opera. I would love to see it in tv series or movie form.
Last edited by Ceejay; Oct 3, 2020 @ 2:12pm
Originally posted by Ceejay:
It depends.

At the time 1 was amazing, but honestly on replays, certainly for the first thrid of the game there is a lot of boring back and forth, I mean a lot of back and forth involving lots of loads screens, to the point when I replay it now it is annoying as hell. However overall story line wise its still the top, you really cannot play the rest without playing this first.

I love the start of the 2nd game, thought it was very original. The rest is also good.

3 has I would say has a stronger storyline than the 2nd, and gameplay wise is the smoothest having worked out all the bugs from the first 2 games.

However 3's biggest issue Is that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid ass ending, that totally ignores every single bit of sweat and hardwork you put into the whole of the 3 games. Litterally goes sod you pick 1 2 or 3....and all of them are bad endings, not one of them is a great ending for everyone, I know life is not all roses, but everyone of them has some massive negative consequence for picking it, there is not 1 actual good ending, They are awful and the writers should be ashamed

What makes it all the worse is it makes zero sense, none of the endings do, throughout all of the games and previous endings, your decisions actually alter the gameplay, they put in a massive effort to make it feel like you had an impact on the universe, to then throw it all in your face at the end. Bizarre.
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So yes with 3's current ending, its clearly last, buy a huge gigantic amount, even though the rest of 3 is great. Even to the point I play up to the end, and just do not finish it as I really cannot sit through that garbage.

So for me its 1,2,3

Gameplay wise If we ignore the ending of 3, then yes I agree with you. 1, 3, 2.

i do think, bar the ending, (you can tell i have a real problem with the ending lol) this is a great piece of space opera. I would love to see it in tv series or movie form.
Boring, YES. Like Space Oddissey 2001, like Solaris. I 100%, but that's what makes it so great in my eyes.
This is not really game that you want to pull in 2 hours, and out, but rather steady journey.


Btw I never understood and still don't issue with 3's ending. All of a sudden people forgot how 1 and 2 were pretty linear, in the end you can only change if BACKGROUND around the main objective will be ♥♥♥♥♥♥ or it will be the best it possibly can be. And that is what ending of 3 was, except now instead of one out come you can choose 3.
Ceejay Oct 6, 2020 @ 11:56am 
Originally posted by Walking DREED #ZSJL #RTAC #214:
Btw I never understood and still don't issue with 3's ending. All of a sudden people forgot how 1 and 2 were pretty linear, in the end you can only change if BACKGROUND around the main objective will be ♥♥♥♥♥♥ or it will be the best it possibly can be. And that is what ending of 3 was, except now instead of one out come you can choose 3.

Not quite true the outcomes of 1 and 2 can change slightly, characters can be killed off or survive depending on the choices you make while playing through the game, even decisions you make in 1 can even have an affect in 3.

Overall okay your decisions do not change the overall storyline but your actions still have an effect and make you feel like some of your decisions have weight and merit to them. Where as the end of 3 essentially slaps you in the face as none of your previous actions have any effect on the ending, which is kind of contrary to the whole game. At least that is how I feel.

As for 1, do not get me wrong, the beginning has only gotten boring simply as I have replayed it that many times, I think I have done every option now :p. It took a lot of replay for that to happen. Which is why I still rank it 1st. I would still recommend people play it etc.

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Tawm Oct 7, 2020 @ 2:44pm 
ME1 is mediocre. It's rushed, has lots of copy/pasted MMO type content and is almost completely devoid of party member interactions or character development. The so-called RPG elements are also pretty much fluff, amounting to minor passive stat upgrades and level-scaled loot from a very small, meaningless pool of equipment, and the combat itself is also the one with the least RPG mechanics in the entire series, and is in general a piss-poor third-person shooter. ME2 is an improvement in every way imaginable.
Synavix Oct 7, 2020 @ 3:51pm 
3 > 2 > 1 for me. I think every game improved on the previous one quite a bit.

ME1 is amazing at setting up the universe, lore, characters, world building, etc. And it deserves all the praise it gets for that. It's also the only game that has the cRPG feel to the leveling system, the open world exploration, and questing. Which I think is where a lot of people decide it's their favorite. But it's also extremely dated, very clunky combat, annoying loot system, most skill level-ups are meaningless stat dumps, and all the exploration is extremely repetitive and tedious. It also kind of failed to flesh out the characters beyond what you can read in the lore codex. The entire game is focused on Saren and Sovereign and you still don't ever learn anything about them beyond what's absolutely necessary to advance the story.

ME2 completely nailed the idea of building up an elite team to take on an impossible mission. It's so much fun to discover and recruit all these colorful characters and find out more about their backstories through loyalty missions. It simplified the level-up system to something more meaningful and made the combat a lot more modern and fluid. It has the best opening cinematic in the trilogy and the coolest idea for the final mission (suicide mission). But the story overall is garbage and the worst in the series. The collectors are basically just a side quest level badguy stretched into an entire game. The whole Cerberus thing came out of nowhere as a reason to have to start over with different squadmates (some of the originals were never intended to return), and the final boss is terrible too. Fighting a half-finished human Reaper core and then deciding whether or not to hand it over to the Illusive Man which has almost no consequences.

ME3 just made 2 better, although it took a different approach on some aspects. The level up system is the best in the series with many meaningful choices. The combat is way better than 2, and the classes are finally rebalanced to make all of them more "active" with tech and biotic combos. Some of the story choices don't have as big of a consequence as most people would like, but the game has many of the best levels in the series. Almost all the Reaper levels are very good. All the characters are expanded on way more, the game has the best DLC (although ME2 DLC is pretty close), and the least tedious side content (the mining in 2 was even worse than the exploration in 1). Plus, I never considered the last 10 minutes of the game to be "the ending". I always considered the last 60% of the game to be the whole ending to the trilogy, and seeing where every character ends up. They really could have done a lot more with the final mission, though. It's a pretty decent mission on it's own, but not as epic as ME2s was.
Roc Da Wae Oct 11, 2020 @ 1:50am 
Same, ME 1 is for me the best. Have played it a lot more than ME2 and ME3.
JohnnyTsunami69 Oct 15, 2020 @ 7:32pm 
I found it. The single most pretentious post on all forums.
Originally posted by RustyShackleferd:
I found it. The single most pretentious post on all forums.
I am writing with my heart open and yet here you are, calling me pretentious. Very wrong.
Dethlane Oct 16, 2020 @ 11:39am 
ME 1: best atmosphere
ME 2: best squad bonding (except ME3: Citadel dlc, also nevermind some boring squadmates)
ME 3: best action, worst ending (MEHEM helps)

Originally posted by RustyShackleferd:
I found it. The single most pretentious post on all forums.
Keelah, you REALLY haven't been through all forums long/throughout enough
Last edited by Dethlane; Oct 16, 2020 @ 11:40am
Hydef Oct 20, 2020 @ 5:26pm 
I agree, if only for the atmosphere and world design. 2 and 3 feel super Hollywood, you can feel the influence of EA right away. The increased emphasis on action, shallow one-liner dialogue, Miranda ass-shots, etc. 1 has that mysterious classic sci-fi vibe, I wish we could get another game like it.
Ceejay Oct 20, 2020 @ 9:33pm 
Originally posted by Urth:
Miranda ass-shots

Not seeing an issue there :p
Donald Darko Oct 21, 2020 @ 7:10am 
The biggest reason I disagree with you, is of course, Mass Effect 3. It's not that the story was particularly disappointing (it was just a somber one) or that the effort wasn't there IMO, it's just that there's no real good way to end a series with an incredible narrative like that without messing something up. Some of the best franchises ended badly, usually due to sequelitis. I guess it can't be helped. Aside from that, the writing itself had a strange sort of flavor to it that I explain in further detail below. Warning, spoilers may be within.

"Good. You opened this message. This isn't actually asari military command. They're busy tending to what's left of their planet.

So you survived our fight on Thessia. You're not as weak as I thought. But never forget that your best wasn't good enough to stop me. Now an entire planet is dying because you lacked the strength to win. The legend of Shepard needs to be re-written. I hope I'm there for the last chapter. It ends with your death.

-KL "

StreamWhenGuy Oct 21, 2020 @ 10:10pm 
It is fine to have a wrong opinion :funnycube:
protëin Oct 22, 2020 @ 5:25am 
1 & 2 > ME3
Can't decide between the first two games, and at this point I don't even really want to. The first was a perfect start, the second was a perfect follow up. While the third one still evolved in some regards, it had too many weak points, even without that cursed ending.
Last edited by protëin; Oct 22, 2020 @ 5:34am
ME2 was my favorite game until I got spaced, burned up in the atmosphere, cratered into a planet, and then someone scraped my remains up and breathed life back into them. Suspension of disbelief ended there and trilogy was complete trash after that. ME1 > ME2 = ME3
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