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JMFCainey Oct 16, 2023 @ 4:03pm
So... the Unity...
I feel like you have to go into the Unity to end the game properly, its where the story ultimately leads, damn Barrett basically calls me a coward for backing out, you gain a new ship and a new costume for going in... but there's a couple of reasons I'm not sure if I'll ever want to go through.

Star field has alot of mechanics and systems in place and many of those are completely reset with the unity and really I only want it to reset the story... I get that story wise it makes sense to rid of your homes, ships and outposts but... these are huge parts of the game? in my eyes these have been huge parts of my gameplay progress, I've put alot of time into all 3 of these things over my near 300 hours, but I'm just gonna lose them all?

Again I understand story wise it makes sense, and hey having NG+ actually make sense with the story is awesome and very rare, but this gives you an opportunity to make NG+ actually more expansive, instead of completely washing everything away, the Unity should give you a choice of keeping these things simply as a quality of life gameplay option, so those of us who want to go through and wipe the slate clean can and those who want to keep their homes and ships can.

Honestly I've put a ton of time into this stuff and if you max this stuff out there are several homes you can use, massive ships you can put hours into building and I think the max number of outposts is 16??? it would make so much more sense to be able to keep these things around, it'd give NG+ much more of a kick and it would actually make me want to carry on, these parts of the game could offer soooooo much if they carried on to NG+ its so strange to me that this isn't an option.
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Xantham Oct 16, 2023 @ 4:09pm 
Well once I found out about how NG+ works I just held off doing anything much with ships/houses/outposts until I am on my forever universe after NG+10
JMFCainey Oct 16, 2023 @ 4:18pm 
Originally posted by Xantham:
Well once I found out about how NG+ works I just held off doing anything much with ships/houses/outposts until I am on my forever universe after NG+10

So your answer was to kinda rush the game? :/ I'm too deep for that to be an answer for me unfortunately, and I'm not sure its a good one, I think people shouldn't be afraid to dive right into these awesome systems.
Goof Oct 16, 2023 @ 4:24pm 
NG+ right now really doeant offer anything except being to level up your powers to 10. Difficulty doesnt scale with NG+ so the powers mostly become irrelevant as you can just mop up enemies without trying without the powers
JMFCainey Oct 16, 2023 @ 4:28pm 
Originally posted by Goof:
NG+ right now really doeant offer anything except being to level up your powers to 10. Difficulty doesnt scale with NG+ so the powers mostly become irrelevant as you can just mop up enemies without trying without the powers

For me the idea of being able to go through story lines differently is probably the biggest catch, and just the general replay-ability, I really hope NG+ is something they expand on.
Goof Oct 16, 2023 @ 4:30pm 
Originally posted by JMFCainey:
Originally posted by Goof:
NG+ right now really doeant offer anything except being to level up your powers to 10. Difficulty doesnt scale with NG+ so the powers mostly become irrelevant as you can just mop up enemies without trying without the powers

For me the idea of being able to go through story lines differently is probably the biggest catch, and just the general replay-ability, I really hope NG+ is something they expand on.
yeah, i like the idea of ng+ and it seems you could do a lot with it
wtiger27 Oct 16, 2023 @ 4:42pm 
Originally posted by JMFCainey:
Originally posted by Goof:
NG+ right now really doeant offer anything except being to level up your powers to 10. Difficulty doesnt scale with NG+ so the powers mostly become irrelevant as you can just mop up enemies without trying without the powers

For me the idea of being able to go through story lines differently is probably the biggest catch, and just the general replay-ability, I really hope NG+ is something they expand on.

Yes, if you pick skipping the Main quest. But that takes time to do a lot of the side quests in the game. And each time you do a NG+ run, it may not be like the first time you ran it, I mean you might get one of the weird ones. Where a faithful companion you had in another run, now hates you. :P

Most just rush thru to the final part and then start a new NG+, rinse and repeat.

It is really all about getting the +10 Powers so after getting into your NG+ 10th run, you can become god like and there is no challenge. If that is your thing, go for it.

If you want to seriously do some things differently, just start a new game.

Personally I think the Main quest is dumb and NG+ is not near as well done as it was in like The Witcher 3.

If they want to expand on and improve NG+, my hope is they do away with the Starborn crap. I don't think that will happen however.
JMFCainey Oct 16, 2023 @ 4:55pm 
Originally posted by wtiger27:
Originally posted by JMFCainey:

For me the idea of being able to go through story lines differently is probably the biggest catch, and just the general replay-ability, I really hope NG+ is something they expand on.

Yes, if you pick skipping the Main quest. But that takes time to do a lot of the side quests in the game. And each time you do a NG+ run, it may not be like the first time you ran it, I mean you might get one of the weird ones. Where a faithful companion you had in another run, now hates you. :P

Most just rush thru to the final part and then start a new NG+, rinse and repeat.

It is really all about getting the +10 Powers so after getting into your NG+ 10th run, you can become god like and there is no challenge. If that is your thing, go for it.

If you want to seriously do some things differently, just start a new game.

Personally I think the Main quest is dumb and NG+ is not near as well done as it was in like The Witcher 3.

If they want to expand on and improve NG+, my hope is they do away with the Starborn crap. I don't think that will happen however.

Yeah prior to writing this I didn't even know about the 10+ thing, problem is i've got nearly 300 hours on it now and alot of this time has been put into things that will reset, if these things didn't reset I'd actually be very excited for NG+ I like the idea that each playthrough offers stronger rewards, thats great... just wish it was enough for me to want to do it, to be perfectly honest It's mainly my home, I've put way too much time into my luxury home for it to just go away :/
andersonm Oct 16, 2023 @ 4:59pm 
The big thing about an NG+ in my view is that you should have a high enough level that you're not gatekeeped on much. So you can play with more freedom from the start. If you farm up to level 80+, could even get the cooking skills.
Bingy Bingy Oct 16, 2023 @ 4:59pm 
Originally posted by JMFCainey:
Barrett basically calls me a coward for backing out

There should be benefits for either choice. For example, if you stay, all quest/main NPCs lose their immortality. Barrett - say hello to my little friend.
wtiger27 Oct 16, 2023 @ 5:06pm 
Originally posted by JMFCainey:
Originally posted by wtiger27:

Yes, if you pick skipping the Main quest. But that takes time to do a lot of the side quests in the game. And each time you do a NG+ run, it may not be like the first time you ran it, I mean you might get one of the weird ones. Where a faithful companion you had in another run, now hates you. :P

Most just rush thru to the final part and then start a new NG+, rinse and repeat.

It is really all about getting the +10 Powers so after getting into your NG+ 10th run, you can become god like and there is no challenge. If that is your thing, go for it.

If you want to seriously do some things differently, just start a new game.

Personally I think the Main quest is dumb and NG+ is not near as well done as it was in like The Witcher 3.

If they want to expand on and improve NG+, my hope is they do away with the Starborn crap. I don't think that will happen however.

Yeah prior to writing this I didn't even know about the 10+ thing, problem is i've got nearly 300 hours on it now and alot of this time has been put into things that will reset, if these things didn't reset I'd actually be very excited for NG+ I like the idea that each playthrough offers stronger rewards, thats great... just wish it was enough for me to want to do it, to be perfectly honest It's mainly my home, I've put way too much time into my luxury home for it to just go away :/

Yep. If a player is really interested in the NG+ runs, they should plan for it by not investing much into their non NG+ runs. Just rush each run until you get to the 10th one. But why? So you can become overpowered to the point, using some powers at the 10th level is absolutely game breaking?

In the Witcher 3 NG+ runs, you get to keep what ever your char has equipped and all your prevous skills, traits, etc. Then in the NG+ run, the enemies are tougher, but drop Legendary gear which is much higher in stats then the normal runs. The Witcher 3 sets, also go up to legendary ones.

This is how they should have done the NG+ runs in Starfield in my opinion. Then again, the Main story was a lot better also in The Witcher 3.

Don't get me wrong. I really like Starfield overall and plan on playing it for a long time. But the Main quest and how NG+ is done, is just a big disappointment for me.
wtiger27 Oct 16, 2023 @ 5:07pm 
Originally posted by Bingy Bingy:
Originally posted by JMFCainey:
Barrett basically calls me a coward for backing out

There should be benefits for either choice. For example, if you stay, all quest/main NPCs lose their immortality. Barrett - say hello to my little friend.

lol. I like that idea. :)
andersonm Oct 16, 2023 @ 5:13pm 
Originally posted by Bingy Bingy:
Originally posted by JMFCainey:
Barrett basically calls me a coward for backing out

There should be benefits for either choice. For example, if you stay, all quest/main NPCs lose their immortality. Barrett - say hello to my little friend.

Dustyyyy! Duuuusttyyyyyyy! dustyYY*blamm*
JMFCainey Oct 16, 2023 @ 5:23pm 
Originally posted by wtiger27:
Originally posted by JMFCainey:

Yeah prior to writing this I didn't even know about the 10+ thing, problem is i've got nearly 300 hours on it now and alot of this time has been put into things that will reset, if these things didn't reset I'd actually be very excited for NG+ I like the idea that each playthrough offers stronger rewards, thats great... just wish it was enough for me to want to do it, to be perfectly honest It's mainly my home, I've put way too much time into my luxury home for it to just go away :/

Yep. If a player is really interested in the NG+ runs, they should plan for it by not investing much into their non NG+ runs. Just rush each run until you get to the 10th one. But why? So you can become overpowered to the point, using some powers at the 10th level is absolutely game breaking?

In the Witcher 3 NG+ runs, you get to keep what ever your char has equipped and all your prevous skills, traits, etc. Then in the NG+ run, the enemies are tougher, but drop Legendary gear which is much higher in stats then the normal runs. The Witcher 3 sets, also go up to legendary ones.

This is how they should have done the NG+ runs in Starfield in my opinion. Then again, the Main story was a lot better also in The Witcher 3.

Don't get me wrong. I really like Starfield overall and plan on playing it for a long time. But the Main quest and how NG+ is done, is just a big disappointment for me.

Yeah to be honest with how much it takes away from you it barely sounds like it can even be called a NG+, almost every game i know that has this feature lets you keep weapons ect, its all part of the progression and the whole point of NG+ is to keep progression... its very strange.
Goof Oct 16, 2023 @ 5:24pm 
Originally posted by wtiger27:
Originally posted by JMFCainey:

Yeah prior to writing this I didn't even know about the 10+ thing, problem is i've got nearly 300 hours on it now and alot of this time has been put into things that will reset, if these things didn't reset I'd actually be very excited for NG+ I like the idea that each playthrough offers stronger rewards, thats great... just wish it was enough for me to want to do it, to be perfectly honest It's mainly my home, I've put way too much time into my luxury home for it to just go away :/

Yep. If a player is really interested in the NG+ runs, they should plan for it by not investing much into their non NG+ runs. Just rush each run until you get to the 10th one. But why? So you can become overpowered to the point, using some powers at the 10th level is absolutely game breaking?

In the Witcher 3 NG+ runs, you get to keep what ever your char has equipped and all your prevous skills, traits, etc. Then in the NG+ run, the enemies are tougher, but drop Legendary gear which is much higher in stats then the normal runs. The Witcher 3 sets, also go up to legendary ones.

This is how they should have done the NG+ runs in Starfield in my opinion. Then again, the Main story was a lot better also in The Witcher 3.

Don't get me wrong. I really like Starfield overall and plan on playing it for a long time. But the Main quest and how NG+ is done, is just a big disappointment for me.

I got to 6 and then I stopped and just started to settle down. I figure there might be reasons to continue ng grinding in the future, but I'm just going to settle in this universe for a bit
JMFCainey Oct 16, 2023 @ 5:26pm 
Originally posted by wtiger27:
Originally posted by JMFCainey:

Yeah prior to writing this I didn't even know about the 10+ thing, problem is i've got nearly 300 hours on it now and alot of this time has been put into things that will reset, if these things didn't reset I'd actually be very excited for NG+ I like the idea that each playthrough offers stronger rewards, thats great... just wish it was enough for me to want to do it, to be perfectly honest It's mainly my home, I've put way too much time into my luxury home for it to just go away :/

Yep. If a player is really interested in the NG+ runs, they should plan for it by not investing much into their non NG+ runs. Just rush each run until you get to the 10th one. But why? So you can become overpowered to the point, using some powers at the 10th level is absolutely game breaking?

In the Witcher 3 NG+ runs, you get to keep what ever your char has equipped and all your prevous skills, traits, etc. Then in the NG+ run, the enemies are tougher, but drop Legendary gear which is much higher in stats then the normal runs. The Witcher 3 sets, also go up to legendary ones.

This is how they should have done the NG+ runs in Starfield in my opinion. Then again, the Main story was a lot better also in The Witcher 3.

Don't get me wrong. I really like Starfield overall and plan on playing it for a long time. But the Main quest and how NG+ is done, is just a big disappointment for me.

Honestly until they either change this, or some mods drop that can do this, I wont be going through the Unity, I think that is my conclusion unfortunately.
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Date Posted: Oct 16, 2023 @ 4:03pm
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