Broken quests

[Avanglion]

17 months after release, these are the quests that are broken for me:

"Conflict In Conviction" - cannot "Examine the camp" because the vortex horror clue did not spawn

"Doctor's Orders" - the dialogue options are there, quest just doesn't start

"Escape from the endless voyage" - ship isn't where it's supposed to be. Can't turn in the damn taters

"Family reunion" - ship isn't where it's supposed to be. Can't let questgiver know I did what he asked of me

"Final thoughts" - completed but still appears in questlog as active

"Hostile Intelligence" - quest doesn't start after "War Relics"

"Legendary Ship: Ecliptic Battleship Camulus" - destroyed it; quest remained active and uncompleted in the log

"Locate sentient microbial colonies in Alpha Tirna" - completed but still appears in questlog as active

"Location of the ECS constant" - ship isn't where it's supposed to be

"Talk to the bartender at Viewport" - dialogue that is supposed to progress the quest does not show

"Unusual SOS" - disatress call has been investigated; quest still appears in questlog as active

Having broken quests in an RPG is inexcusable.
Is this game 17 years old? No. Why does it feel like it's been abandoned then?
Why is there complete radio silence and no mention of a patch to fix said broken quests?
What happened to Bethesda Softworks? Yeah, yeah, I know - the old dogs are gone, it's not the same studio anymore. So you're trying to tell me they are hiring less capable/competent/passionate developers intentionally?

P.S.1: Don't tell me why those aren't working. I know that. I don't wanna hear "You shouldn't have done X before Y". If I shouldn't have, then it shouldn't have been possible.

P.S.2: Don't give me advise on how to help myself. Bethesda should do their job and fix those.
I have submitted support requests. They don't respond to anybody, ever.
I am not going to enter console commands or install mods either because I haven't gotten all achievements yet.
I won't load an earlier save because some of those broke before the end of my first hour with the game and I'm now beyond hour 1900.

P.S.3: No, I'm not stubborn. I just strongly believe that the developers at Bethesda should be meticulous. And if they are indeed abandoning the game, then it's a matter of honor to leave it in a fixed state.

P.S.4: Yes, I'm venting. Wouldn't you be pissed off and needing to vent given the circumstances?

[Mooman]

One of the arguments that always pops up is "this isn't a live service game!" so updates are few and far between.

Well... let's compare to an actual live service game, Fallout 76, to get an idea on Bethesda's practices.

In FO76 many main quests have bugs, some even progress stopping and have been in since the quests released. Some of those bugs have persisted for years...

So if they can't/don't fix bugs in their live service game, what hope does their 'whenever we want to update' game have?

Face it, Bethesda has really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ practices when it comes to reviewing old bugs. They tend to ignore and just keep focusing forward.

This is one of those cases the "modders will fix it!", or they might do if they're even still around...

[AuddieD]

There are broken quests in Fallout 4 and it just got a touch up. The plastic pumpkins no one asked for work fine though.

[Avanglion]

Oh you're gonna love this. I just found out that Stache's loot tables are broken too. If one progresses enough into the Freestar Collective's questline, the guy stops giving weapons from any vendor other than Laredo Firearms. The worst set of weapons imo.
So now I can't even get something good for the Astras that I painstakingly collected by running the same ol' dungeons.
It gets better and better by the hour!

[I am not Low Standards]

Ask the fans. they have never had a bug in this game and claim it still doesn't.

[tkwoods]

Originally posted by I am not Low Standards:

Ask the fans. they have never had a bug in this game and claim it still doesn't.

No we haven't and posts like this are total garbage.

As far as the broken quests. The ECS Constant show up again at some point. There is "Were it's supposed to be" until it reappears and you find it at it's random location.

My advice is go play a game that's perfect, except that just means you won't be playing any games.

[townsgr]

Bethesda hasn't fixed any Starfield missions flaws from one universe to the next universe and ship builder is far to buggy. DLC missions have flaws that still haven't been fixed yet at all.

[tkwoods]

Originally posted by townsgr:

Bethesda hasn't fixed any Starfield missions flaws from one universe to the next universe and ship builder is far to buggy. DLC missions have flaws that still haven't been fixed yet at all.

Can you list them?

I've played the DLC three time and not had an issue. I've only had a couple minor issues in the base game.

Bethesda has indeed fixed quest bugs in the base game, maybe not all but saying none have been fixed is false.

[I am not Low Standards]

Originally posted by tkwoods:

Originally posted by townsgr:

Bethesda hasn't fixed any Starfield missions flaws from one universe to the next universe and ship builder is far to buggy. DLC missions have flaws that still haven't been fixed yet at all.

Can you list them?

I've played the DLC three time and not had an issue. I've only had a couple minor issues in the base game.

Bethesda has indeed fixed quest bugs in the base game, maybe not all but saying none have been fixed is false.

LOL! Thanks for proving my point.

[tkwoods]

Originally posted by I am not Low Standards:

Originally posted by tkwoods:

Can you list them?

I've played the DLC three time and not had an issue. I've only had a couple minor issues in the base game.

Bethesda has indeed fixed quest bugs in the base game, maybe not all but saying none have been fixed is false.

LOL! Thanks for proving my point.

Your point is not proved... LOL... Your point is patently false. Show me one post were someone said the game has no bugs? Hint: You won't find one.

[I am not Low Standards]

Originally posted by tkwoods:

Originally posted by I am not Low Standards:

LOL! Thanks for proving my point.

Your point is not proved... LOL... Your point is patently false. Show me one post were someone said the game has no bugs? Hint: You won't find one.

You just did. Oh boy.

[Toxophilite [East]]

Originally posted by Avanglion:

"Location of the ECS constant" - ship isn't where it's supposed to be

"Talk to the bartender at Viewport" - dialogue that is supposed to progress the quest does not show

These two Quests weren't working for me either before the updates, the "Location of the ECS constant" is the only remaining Quest I have that doesn't seem to be working properly.

Originally posted by Avanglion:

P.S.1: Don't tell...Don't give me...No, I'm not stubborn...Yes, I'm venting. Wouldn't you be pissed off and needing to vent given the circumstances?

I agree, I felt the same way about Cyberpunk 2077 when some of its Quests and mechanics were bugged. This is just the nature of open world games, they have a TON of moving parts and tend to break more often then smaller, more contained games. I've even run into bugs in Elden Ring, which is a formula From Software has been using for 3 games now.

No one should be letting Bethesda off-the-hook, but holding them to some unfair standard isn't the move either. I'm in the process of seeing if Bethesda actually reviews claims submitted by the fans as we speak, and if it's found out they don't (I have a clever new way of being able to tell), I'll be making a video about it soon and exposing them.

I'm 1,000% on board with holding them accountable.

[I am not Low Standards]

Originally posted by Toxophilite East:

Originally posted by Avanglion:

"Location of the ECS constant" - ship isn't where it's supposed to be

"Talk to the bartender at Viewport" - dialogue that is supposed to progress the quest does not show

These two Quests weren't working for me either before the updates, the "Location of the ECS constant" is the only remaining Quest I have that doesn't seem to be working properly.

Originally posted by Avanglion:

P.S.1: Don't tell...Don't give me...No, I'm not stubborn...Yes, I'm venting. Wouldn't you be pissed off and needing to vent given the circumstances?

I agree, I felt the same way about Cyberpunk 2077 when some of its Quests and mechanics were bugged. This is just the nature of open world games, they have a TON of moving parts and tend to break more often then smaller, more contained games. I've even run into bugs in Elden Ring, which is a formula From Software has been using for 3 games now.

No one should be letting Bethesda off-the-hook either, but holding them to some unfair standard isn't the move either. I'm in the process of seeing if Bethesda actually reviews claims submitted by the fans as we speak, and if I found out they don't (I have a clever new way of being able to tell), I'll be making a video about it soon and exposing them.

I'm 1,000% on board with holding them accountable.

Bethesda games have always been abnormally buggy. Looking at this scripting language I now know why. Actually the more bugs they fix it is almost guaranteed they will make more.

[[NOT]GameHubModerator]

Broken Quest?
You mean "Features of Bethesda games".

[I am not Low Standards]

Originally posted by NOTGameHubModerator:

Broken Quest?
You mean "Features of Bethesda games".

LOL!

[Jᴧgᴧ]

Originally posted by Toxophilite East:

No one should be letting Bethesda off-the-hook, but holding them to some unfair standard isn't the move either.

Wouldn't you think fixing broken quests within a year and a half would be a reasonable expectation? It's one thing to have a texture not align with a mesh, or have floating rocks/trees, or maybe have the wrong sound file associated with a creature. Hell, even having broken nav pathing might be expected. But in ~18 months, all the quests need to be solid.

I don't see any unreasonable expectations in that much. Beth games have never been perfect - they create far more bugs than they ever fix (hence the reason for the Unofficial patch to exist). But core parts of the game (mechanics, story, missions & campaign, etc) need to be solid, probably before the end of year one. Even in a Bethesda game.