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Vahnkiljoy Sep 19, 2023 @ 2:21pm
PSA: Set an alt jump button for boosting!!!
Friend pointed this out to me, if you set and use an alt jump button your boost will send you forwards instead of upwards, game changing, I'm hoping its a damn bug and will be fixed.
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dethtrain Sep 19, 2023 @ 3:45pm 
I've wondered why the sprint button doesn't propel you forward like in Zero G environments
Zunnoab #931 Sep 19, 2023 @ 3:47pm 
It's ludicrous the boost doesn't normally have a way to propel you forward. And even more ludicrous you lose stamina in air anyway when over-encumbered. It's like they thought "how do we make travel as irritating as possible in our game?" I love the game, but yeesh.
Wingnut Mcmoomoo Sep 19, 2023 @ 3:49pm 
Originally posted by dethtrain:
I've wondered why the sprint button doesn't propel you forward like in Zero G environments

it does tho, at least in my game, whenever i'm in zero g hitting shift causes me to go faster forward
Zunnoab #931 Sep 19, 2023 @ 3:50pm 
Originally posted by Wingnut Mcmoomoo:
Originally posted by dethtrain:
I've wondered why the sprint button doesn't propel you forward like in Zero G environments

it does tho, at least in my game, whenever i'm in zero g hitting shift causes me to go faster forward
You read that backwards.
Vahnkiljoy Sep 19, 2023 @ 3:56pm 
Setup an alternate jump and use the boost with that button, game changing with the stupid amount of horizontal movement it gives, it has to be a bug that it ONLY works with the alternate key though, right?
Zengrath Sep 24, 2023 @ 5:17pm 
Originally posted by Vahnkiljoy:
Setup an alternate jump and use the boost with that button, game changing with the stupid amount of horizontal movement it gives, it has to be a bug that it ONLY works with the alternate key though, right?

from my testing it only works with keyboard and mouse and alt key as the alternative jump key. I can't get it working with a game pad and can't play with keyboard and mouse due to hand issues. I even used 3rd party software to map a controller button to left alt key on keyboard and the game still sees that I am using a gamepad i guess due to also holding forward or other buttons on gamepad and it refuses to act any different then the normal jump key. I switch to keyboard and mouse and suddenly skip packs are 2x faster and balanced packs are still like 75% faster. Reallly frustrating as exploring planets suck without that boost.

The way Todd Howard made a comment to everyone complaining about no vehicles that we have jet packs makes me think even he himself doesn't realize that jetpacks are broken right now. I know it's broken because the whole point of a skip pack is to give you much more horizontal speed by sacrificing jump height, but playing with a controller it does not, it gives me far less jump height and 0 increase in horizontal speed, i still only go as fast as running on the ground.

Here is to hoping a patch fixes this so us controller and console players can have the proper working jet packs.
Iratus Machina Sep 24, 2023 @ 5:20pm 
I saw a certain streamer say the same thing and I tried it out for myself, but the alt jump boost didn't seem to work. I don't know if I did anything wrong or what.
PocketYoda Sep 24, 2023 @ 5:24pm 
Are we even going to be getting patches.. So much is broken and nothing no word on anything updates wise outside of buy a better computer from Todd the genius..
Zengrath Sep 24, 2023 @ 5:25pm 
Originally posted by Iratus Machina:
I saw a certain streamer say the same thing and I tried it out for myself, but the alt jump boost didn't seem to work. I don't know if I did anything wrong or what.

Make sure it's set to your alternative key, keep space as your default jump and use left alt as the alternative jump key. i tested it and it 100% makes you go way faster. It's most apparent when using the skip or balanced boost packs, normal pack doesn't do much.

I just can't get it working on gamepad :(
Last edited by Zengrath; Sep 24, 2023 @ 5:25pm
PocketYoda Sep 24, 2023 @ 5:49pm 
Originally posted by Zengrath:
Originally posted by Iratus Machina:
I saw a certain streamer say the same thing and I tried it out for myself, but the alt jump boost didn't seem to work. I don't know if I did anything wrong or what.

Make sure it's set to your alternative key, keep space as your default jump and use left alt as the alternative jump key. i tested it and it 100% makes you go way faster. It's most apparent when using the skip or balanced boost packs, normal pack doesn't do much.

I just can't get it working on gamepad :(
So we must alternate between two keys?
ULTRA Sep 24, 2023 @ 5:59pm 
Maybe I'm ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid but I, a man who graduated college twice could never find what you guys are talking about. Do you mean just setting an alt key for jumping itself? Why would the alt key boost forward and not just do the same thing the primary key does? Or did I somehow overlook the appropriate line when looking over the 420 pages of controls 4 or 5 times?
PocketYoda Sep 24, 2023 @ 6:04pm 
Originally posted by ULTRA:
Maybe I'm ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid but I, a man who graduated college twice could never find what you guys are talking about. Do you mean just setting an alt key for jumping itself? Why would the alt key boost forward and not just do the same thing the primary key does? Or did I somehow overlook the appropriate line when looking over the 420 pages of controls 4 or 5 times?
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1716740/discussions/0/3824174554258022299/
ULTRA Sep 24, 2023 @ 6:25pm 
Originally posted by PocketYoda:
Originally posted by ULTRA:
Maybe I'm ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid but I, a man who graduated college twice could never find what you guys are talking about. Do you mean just setting an alt key for jumping itself? Why would the alt key boost forward and not just do the same thing the primary key does? Or did I somehow overlook the appropriate line when looking over the 420 pages of controls 4 or 5 times?
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1716740/discussions/0/3824174554258022299/

Ok yes that's less equivocal, thank you
Zengrath Sep 24, 2023 @ 6:27pm 
Originally posted by ULTRA:
Maybe I'm ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid but I, a man who graduated college twice could never find what you guys are talking about. Do you mean just setting an alt key for jumping itself? Why would the alt key boost forward and not just do the same thing the primary key does? Or did I somehow overlook the appropriate line when looking over the 420 pages of controls 4 or 5 times?

there is a couple of videos i seen that made it much easier to understand. But if you go into bindings in game you'll see "jump" as Space by default. in right column is the Alternative key column. For some reason it only works with the Alt keys, not letters etc, if you assign the alternative Jump key to Left Alt. Then in-game you simply hit alt jump twice to jump then keep hitting Alt and you'll go way faster then using the space key.

Why this works, I don't know. I have a feeling that they originally intended for it to work like this because packs like Skip is supposed to give more horizontal speed based on the in-game description, yet it doesn't. However if you use the Alt key as the alternative key for Jump, it suddenly does work this way and you go much faster due to significantly increased horizontal momentum when using the alt jump key.

Make sure your using a boost jump pack or balanced jump back to see the big difference. It is massively noticeable once you figure it out.

In my case however playing with a controller, I can't get it to work, even when using a 3rd party program to emulate a game button press as the L-Alt key that in-game keyboard binding is set to. It baffles me but I think game programming still knows your in "game pad mode" when your holding forward and all and then you press the alt key, it still acts as a normal jump, not the alt jump you have assigned.. I have a theory that it may be possible to emulate every key press with game pad to stop this from happening, but I haven't taken the time to test that out yet.. but it may be worth doing since this is a huuuge time saver for exploring planets.

I hope Bethesda patches it to make it work as intended as a normal jump. I really feel like this is how it should work. I even checks mods on nexus mods and they all rely on you using the alt key with their mods, so i can't even try a mod to fix this. My guess is I am stuck waiting for creation kit and a proper mod to fix this, or a patch from bethesda and they haven't freaking released any patches to fix a ton of issues in this game yet.
Zengrath Sep 24, 2023 @ 6:30pm 
Here is video I found where I first found out about the alt jump key fix. There have been other videos also talking about it now as well as mention of this in several jetpack mods too.

https://youtu.be/xTobwzJ3orE?si=AnrzqeqiYMiyMUhR
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Date Posted: Sep 19, 2023 @ 2:21pm
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