You don't understand censorship.

[Shodan 2.0]

I say this as someone who doesn't like any kind of mods at all and never uses them because I disagree with the whole idea of mods. I believe in the one and only original and authentic state when it comes to all kinds of things, especially classic cars.

So, I'm definitely not defending Nexus Mods here, I don't use it and I never will.

However, there are so many people today who like to throw around words like "censorship" and "freedom" only when that goes in their favor, but they don't truly support or understand these things like they say they do and their blatant double standards are the proof of that.

Let's see how things actually work:

Nexus Mods is a private platform that hosts people's mods for free and allows anyone to download them. The entire website is based solely on goodwill of the people who made it, meaning it's their own platform, they finance it themselves and they don't owe anyone anything.

Nexus Mods can choose what kind of stuff they want to host and promote on their own private platform and if they choose not to allow certain things, they have every right to do so because, after all, they made the website and they pay for servers. If they choose not to allow certain things, that doesn't mean they don't allow you to create it, to use it or to upload it somewhere else., it's just that they won't host it for you on their own website and nothiing else.

If you truly supported freedom and the idea of a free market, and if you truly opposed censorship, then you would support the right of private platforms to make their own decisions and operate by their own rules among themselves instead of having to be forced to act exactly how a government dictates them to.

If you disagree with Nexus Mods, feel free to find another private platform whose owners have different policies or just create your own one with your own rules. No one is stopping you from doing so.

If you believe in forcing Nexus Mods, a private platform, to host things that they don't want to host using their own money and their own platform, that makes you exactly as bad as any other "anti-freedom pro-censorship fascist" that you claim to be against, ironically.

[Shield]

any sensible person can take 1 look at the basedmods modlist for starfield and see why theyre not hosted

[Heu, Iterum Id Feci]

Also Nexusmods most likely didn't ban the mods for their content, but for the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ behavior and pointless discussions those mods tend to provoke.
Nobody needs that ♥♥♥♥, and I'm grateful Nexusmods spares us at least a little bit of that bs...it's bad enough you find these threads in all games steam forums already...

[alan0n]

What is a simple definition of censorship?
Censorship, the suppression of words, images, or ideas that are “offensive,” happens whenever some people succeed in imposing their personal political or moral values on others. Censorship can be carried out by the government as well as private pressure groups.

Does nexus mods practice censorship? The answer is a very obvious and resounding yes; no matter how much you would love to twist words to justify it.

[Zhorge]

Not even worth reading. Off to the blocklist with your laughable freshmen philosophy and inability to understand even the basics of the Western Enlightenment Values. You couldn't have gotten this more wrong if you went to WalMart and bought every box of wrong they have.

[Shodan 2.0]

Originally posted by owlBear:

any sensible person can take 1 look at the basedmods modlist for starfield and see why theyre not hosted

Originally posted by Dαятн Wαfflεmαncεя:

Also Nexusmods most likely didn't ban the mods for their content, but for the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ behavior and pointless discussions those mods tend to provoke.
Nobody needs that ♥♥♥♥, and I'm grateful Nexusmods spares us at least a little bit of that bs...it's bad enough you find these threads in all games steam forums already...

Exactly, both of you are absolutely right. Some of those things are obviously not (inherently) bad when you put it like those people do, but we all know what they really mean by it and what's really behind it. They just use excuses and sweet talk as a cover for something much, much worse.

Originally posted by alan0n:

What is a simple definition of censorship?
Censorship, the suppression of words, images, or ideas that are “offensive,” happens whenever some people succeed in imposing their personal political or moral values on others. Censorship can be carried out by the government as well as private pressure groups.

Does nexus mods practice censorship? The answer is a very obvious and resounding yes; no matter how much you would love to twist words to justify it.

No, I'm not the one twisting words to justify things, that's the complete opposite of the truth. If I want to make a website where every single mod uploaded there must contain swastika no matter what, what's stopping me from doing that? If you can't come up with a way to integrate a swastika in your mod and you don't want to do that, what's stopping you from uploading it somewhere else without a swastika in it? It's really that simple. Anyone who disagrees with this is against freedom to make your own decisions on your own private platforms, no matter how much they want to make it sound otherwise.

Originally posted by Zhorge:

Not even worth reading. Off to the blocklist with your laughable freshmen philosophy and inability to understand even the basics of the Western Enlightenment Values. You couldn't have gotten this more wrong if you went to WalMart and bought every box of wrong they have.

The irony. Trying to act so smart and pretentious, yet you couldn't even come up with a single argument at all. You think blocking everything you don't want to hear actually solves anything? Also, the irony here is that you used your right to block me, yet you're against the right of Nexus Mods to block content they want to block on their own private platform. What a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hypocritical idiot you are.

[Heu, Iterum Id Feci]

Originally posted by alan0n:

What is a simple definition of censorship?
Censorship, the suppression of words, images, or ideas that are “offensive,” happens whenever some people succeed in imposing their personal political or moral values on others. Censorship can be carried out by the government as well as private pressure groups.

Does nexus mods practice censorship? The answer is a very obvious and resounding yes; no matter how much you would love to twist words to justify it.

If the jehovas witnesses knock on my door and start blabbering their BS and I tell them to eff off, am I censoring them?
If I have someone visiting me, and I ask him to not talk about a topic while in my flat, am I censoring them?
No. My house, my rules.
Censorship happens in publicly owned spaces. Every private place is free to make their own rules about what they allow or don't allow without it being censorship.

[Jaggid Edje]

The most ironic thing is that the people offended by Nexusmod's decision are a lot of the same people that want to ban quite a few books considered 'classics' from school libraries and curriculum.

Both sides are hypocrites in this particular debate. Both of them believe that censorship is "okay, as long as I decide what is available and what isn't".

That said, I'm personally pro-business owner, so I support Nexusmod's right to decide what can and cannot appear on their platform, regardless of the reason or motivation for their decision. School libraries, on the other hand...totally different story.

[alan0n]

Originally posted by Shodan 2.0:

Originally posted by owlBear:

any sensible person can take 1 look at the basedmods modlist for starfield and see why theyre not hosted

Originally posted by Dαятн Wαfflεmαncεя:

Also Nexusmods most likely didn't ban the mods for their content, but for the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ behavior and pointless discussions those mods tend to provoke.
Nobody needs that ♥♥♥♥, and I'm grateful Nexusmods spares us at least a little bit of that bs...it's bad enough you find these threads in all games steam forums already...

Exactly, both of you are absolutely right. Some of those things are obviously not (inherently) bad when you put it like those people do, but we all know what they really mean by it and what's really behind it. They just use excuses and sweet talk as a cover for something much, much worse.

You literally just said: Its not actually censorship if I like that its being censored. You are really killing your own credibility every time you post.

[Starbug]

Forcing a private company to cater to the whims of bigots would be a step towards the sort of authoritarian hellscape that as a species we really ought to be extremely wary of entering into.

[War...war never changes]

- not owning the game
- writing essays on steam forums
Go outside, brother. Grab some air, "touch some grass" or w/e. Who even has time to read so much stuff on the internet and why would anyone bother to? Lmao/10

[Rod]

The problem is censorship has gone so far they wont allow a alternative nexus. We would need money and hosting. Thats the first thing these people do they attack your source of funding and they email the webhost that is if they dont already own all the major web hosters and bam your sites dead for being bigoted even when you are promoting freedom of ideas.


We dont have a Elon Musk of gaming mods, Thats what would be needed to win. So i believe it is you OP who does not understand censorship, In that while you are right you are also not able to grasp how censorship works within the framework of freedom.

[fox]

Anyone with basic common sense should knows this.

[Maverick81PL]

its simple with two steps:
!. nexus bans some mods
2. you going to other site and download that baned mod and install in game

personally I stop using nexus year ago, maybe is bigest place with mods but they have stupid politics about content. mods are mods, far away from politics and other things.

We gamers want play game as what we want with mod what we want.

[alan0n]

For what its worth I absolutely agree with the OP. He, and several others floating around here have no idea what censorship even means.

[luZk]

Originally posted by owlBear:

any sensible person can take 1 look at the basedmods modlist for starfield and see why theyre not hosted

Yeah, no doubt the "No blaKKKs" mod is pretty racist.