Is there a point to owning any ship other than the Mantis?

[0utlaw]

Given that you can swap generators, delete and rebuild a ship from ground up, ship classes are moot, and with the Mantis ship in particular it carries the Mantis flag, thus scaring pirates, letting you run many of them down, there doesn't seem to be a reason to have another ship as no matter what you can make the Mantis comparable to any ship and they won't carry the 'fear' flag it has.

If you can turn a Honda Civic into an 18 wheeled Semi, it kinda makes switching ships irrelevant.

[fauxpas]

True, unless you find the "fear flag" annoying or want to collect the named ships in your garage.

[SmallGespenst]

Because it's a lot of effort to build a new ship from the ground up when you can seize or buy a new ship and make changes based on that.
Also the Mantis flag is arguably a detriment; having a bunch of enemies run off and jump out makes them more of a pain to kill, so slower Piloting progress and less EXP.

[Vyvyvn]

Because the mantis is one of the few ships you CAN'T swap the generator out of, For one.

[SmallGespenst]

Originally posted by Vyvyn:

Because the mantis is one of the few ships you CAN'T swap the generator out of, For one.

that's just false, you can make any changes you want to the Razorleaf, generators just have very limited interaction with the Upgrade menu (which is something that applies to all ships) and since the Razorleaf has a generator style that isn't common in UC space, you won't have many options for doing stuff with it, just use the ship builder mode, delete the generator and shove a new one in the space.

[0utlaw]

Originally posted by Vyvyn:

Because the mantis is one of the few ships you CAN'T swap the generator out of, For one.

I just did, upgraded it to a B class.

[rjenkins16]

Yes. You don't start the game with it, and doing anything w/out a ship early on would be pretty hard, especially the space battles against pirates.

[tkwoods]

Originally posted by Vyvyn:

Because the mantis is one of the few ships you CAN'T swap the generator out of, For one.

I changed out the generator... Also the Grav drive.

[Capim]

Yes. Until you unlock all the starship designer perks you will find better ships from quests and enemies.

[0utlaw]

Originally posted by Capim:

Yes. Until you unlock all the starship designer perks you will find better ships from quests and enemies.

Yeah but you have to have the license to fly the enemies ships, The whole reason I ranked up in Piloting is just so i could cap enemies, then I realized you could swap out generators and rebuild a ship from scratch and it made capturing better ships moot.

[Zalzany]

I kind find it annoying to have them run away but I want kill them for exp and loot, not spare their lives...

[LinkR87]

I absolutely despise the ship builder, so for me.. yes.

[ch33353]

the enemies will aim for your center so If you make a doughnut shaped ship they'll shoot through the hole and miss

[0utlaw]

Originally posted by Zalzany:

I kind find it annoying to have them run away but I want kill them for exp and loot, not spare their lives...

And I get that, I usually just cycle for the one with the best ship that I can cycle and cap it to sell. But the overall point remains, you don't need anything but one or maybe two ships, one you outfit as a massive hauler, and another you fit for maneuverability to hunt. With the shipbuilding being as cheesey as it is, there just isn't a reason to upgrade to a new ship. You can make a cheap Honda into a Lamborghini and then make the Lambo into a massive U-Haul.

[0utlaw]

Originally posted by ch33353:

the enemies will aim for your center so If you make a doughnut shaped ship they'll shoot through the hole and miss

The funny thing is I don't know if this is a joke or serious, but the AI is so bad, I believe it.

[I Throw Spears.]

Originally posted by 0utlaw:

Originally posted by ch33353:

the enemies will aim for your center so If you make a doughnut shaped ship they'll shoot through the hole and miss

The funny thing is I don't know if this is a joke or serious, but the AI is so bad, I believe it.

Oh, no, there are MANY videos of it now.

Either way, im not into cheese, either with the donuts, or with the fleeting pirates, so I just make my own ships.