Freestar Collective Red Mile quest.

[Majestic]

I have to say, this might be the quest that seals it for me that this game's quests are just atrocious beyond redemption. Everyone is telling you how dangerous it is, your contact even says "there must be another way", but then you dont have an option to say "im not going to do it". Just three ways of saying "OK". You cannot find any incriminating evidence on Mei, you can't turn the ecliptic against her, nothing. You either run the damn Red Mile and risk your life (in essence, lorewise) or the quest grinds to a halt. There is nothing else there in that whole questzone but to run the redmile and get the info you need.

This is terrible quest design, and just shatters any player agency you think you might've had. It's just a rollercoaster you're sitting on. I think I'm just going to play Deus Ex again, which allows you to ACTUALLY have some player choice where you can solve quests multiple ways.

[Daedrius]

Don't be scared. Run the Red Mile. I believe in you.

[DecalMan]

Originally posted by Majestic:

I have to say, this might be the quest that seals it for me that this game's quests are just atrocious beyond redemption. Everyone is telling you how dangerous it is, your contact even says "there must be another way", but then you dont have an option to say "im not going to do it". Just three ways of saying "OK". You cannot find any incriminating evidence on Mei, you can't turn the ecliptic against her, nothing. You either run the damn Red Mile and risk your life (in essence, lorewise) or the quest grinds to a halt. There is nothing else there in that whole questzone but to run the redmile and get the info you need.

This is terrible quest design, and just shatters any player agency you think you might've had. It's just a rollercoaster you're sitting on. I think I'm just going to play Deus Ex again, which allows you to ACTUALLY have some player choice where you can solve quests multiple ways.

Yea i even hacked her computer, but still had to run the quest that didnt even have a boss enemy or anything, just the same 1 enemy like 20x. lol

[Majestic]

Originally posted by Ezeris:

Don't be scared. Run the Red Mile. I believe in you.

I'm not saying its difficult, but it's just the principle of not being able to just find some way around it. I always found that very rewarding in other RPG's. This just has none built in, because they stretched the content so thin they didn't have the resources to make multiple paths possible.

You sit in that convo, they say its a suicide, and then you get 3 dialogue options which all amount to "ok ill do it". As someone's first day on the job. As far as canon goes, that's just terrible imho.

Originally posted by DecalMan:

Yea i even hacked her computer, but still had to run the quest that didnt even have a boss enemy or anything, just the same 1 enemy like 20x. lol

Yeah exactly, even tried running back to the ecliptic when I read the email about contract renewal but no bueno. Either run it or bust. Very disappointing.

[Daedrius]

Originally posted by Majestic:

Originally posted by Ezeris:

Don't be scared. Run the Red Mile. I believe in you.

I'm not saying its difficult, but it's just the principle of not being able to just find some way around it. I always found that very rewarding in other RPG's. This just has none built in, because they stretched the content so thin they didn't have the resources to make multiple paths possible.

You sit in that convo, they say its a suicide, and then you get 3 dialogue options which all amount to "ok ill do it". As someone's first day on the job. As far as canon goes, that's just terrible imho.

Originally posted by DecalMan:

Yea i even hacked her computer, but still had to run the quest that didnt even have a boss enemy or anything, just the same 1 enemy like 20x. lol

Yeah exactly, even tried running back to the ecliptic when I read the email about contract renewal but no bueno. Either run it or bust. Very disappointing.

I know. I was joking. I also dislike shoe-horned quests. Although, it's pretty short, and if you really want to just bypass it, you can always turn down the game difficulty to very easy to just slaughter your way through it real quick - it's not that interesting anyway. The next parts are kinda cool though.

[nzguzzi]

Harden up

[Ammikaameri]

I've yet to see a quest for the Red Mile but I've already ran the Red Mile a couple of times. Not that rewarding but I think I'll have to beat the high score just because. I assumed the whole ecliptic thing would be a part of a quest later but maybe not then. A lot of the quests in Starfield do have multiple ways to handle them, a lot more than in previous titles at least.

[Majestic]

Originally posted by nzguzzi:

Harden up

You either seem to miss the point, or are just here to get under someone's skin. Both are sad.

[dethtrain]

Haha I practically boost glided my way there and back

[ayrtep]

Just stock up on AMP and med packs and you will be good.

Alternate between sprinting and running.

[Majestic]

Originally posted by dethtrain:

Haha I practically boost glided my way there and back

Yeah I did the same, after I was forced to do it. It's just the little things.
Like how do you boost a ship to a certain speed in space, but then slow down once the boost runs out lmao. There is nothing to slow you down in space.

[ostar]

Yeah, it's like half the dialogue options are missing. Pretty much any "evil" options are completely gone.

[Majestic]

Originally posted by ostar:

Yeah, it's like half the dialogue options are missing. Pretty much any "evil" options are completely gone.

Doesn't necessarily have to be cartoonishly evil. Ambivalent or cold would be a start, intimidation/threatening would also be nice. But the option is usually play captain picard or shoot them.

[SquirtBox]

I've noticed this quite a lot in this game. Dialogue feels off and there aren't many if any good dialogue options. Just a lot of not terrible choices you can make. I don't particularly like how just having a single point into a skill gives you every dialogue option with that tag either. No checks against your skill level or anything. A single point in the medicine skill gives you the ability to claim you are a medical professional on par with a trained physician in another quest.

[Majestic]

Originally posted by Ezeris:

I know. I was joking. I also dislike shoe-horned quests. Although, it's pretty short, and if you really want to just bypass it, you can always turn down the game difficulty to very easy to just slaughter your way through it real quick - it's not that interesting anyway. The next parts are kinda cool though.

Yeah I liked the bit where I had to run 15 minutes across the planet towards the mech factory.

Hmm, when i landed the second time i landed near it...
Just bethesda things.

[Not Mr Flıbble]

Red Mile? Don't carry too much, have a booster pack equipped and run and boost. O₂ usage while running & recovery while jumping/boosting.

Same goes for a lot of surface travel, particularly in low gravity.