Terrormorph/Vanguard quest - spoilers i guess

[Steppenrazor]

why the heck is bringing back the aceles, some huge chicken thingy with horns that eats terrormorphs..... that humanity has apparently already spread around worlds.. but then went all Colonel Sanders and ate them into nigh extinction..

thought of as a worse option then some microbe?

you'd think at least some companions would be "mmmm.. love me some Aceles fajitas... " or something?

Finished the quest many levels ago.. but still just bugs me. sure it may be the slower option - but is the more idk.. biologically sound choice? you get an animal that some how is tough enough to eat terrormorphs.. but still weak enough to be used as a food resource.

seems like a win-win situation

[M'Hæl]

I'm with you on that one. I can't for the life of me understand how every single one of the companions are perfectly okay with biological warfare option but want to ♥♥♥♥♥ and complain about giant terrormorph eating brontos. Makes no sense at all. So dumb.

[fauxpas]

Because that way they can shove "trust the science" dialog into the story ... nevermind that microbes evolve quickly and unpredictably.

[fauxpas]

Originally posted by M'Hæl:

I'm with you on that one. I can't for the life of me understand how every single one of the companions are perfectly okay with biological warfare option but want to ♥♥♥♥♥ and complain about giant terrormorph eating brontos. Makes no sense at all. So dumb.

If the argument was that the animals were too slow and there was a legitimate time crunch reason the microbes needed to be used despite being the more dangerous option.

[Angela]

I deliberately released the microbes in the hope they would mutate and wipe everyone out in the future.

[QuixoticMilotic]

I'm willing to trust that their genetic engineering technology has progressed far enough to ensure that the microbe option is safe, but the Aceles are big and friend shaped so obviously that is still the superior choice. I'm more confused by how they missed that heat leeches share a genome with terrormorphs for so long.

[Kashra Fall]

The way it is explained, is Aceles are kind of like MUCH larger bisons. Territorial, non-aggressive creatures. However, if they were brought back, they would grow/populate and eventually discover humans as either a threat, or a possible territory blocker, hence the concern they displayed. Where as the microbe is a biological weapon designed specifically for the destruction of terrormorphs WITHOUT the fight in between, they just die.

Aceles it would be like watching a lion and tiger go at it. You don't know who is going to win, but if a terror morph wins, what then? People die. A little possible sickness, vs two kaiju's going on it, what would you decide?

[fauxpas]

Originally posted by QuixoticMilotic:

I'm willing to trust that their genetic engineering technology has progressed far enough to ensure that the microbe option is safe, but the Aceles are big and friend shaped so obviously that is still the superior choice. I'm more confused by how they missed that heat leeches share a genome with terrormorphs for so long.

The leech issue is legitimate one bit there is no way to legitimately halt evolution, especially in the accelerated world of microbes.

[fauxpas]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

The way it is explained, is Aceles are kind of like MUCH larger bisons. Territorial, non-aggressive creatures. However, if they were brought back, they would grow/populate and eventually discover humans as either a threat, or a possible territory blocker, hence the concern they displayed. Where as the microbe is a biological weapon designed specifically for the destruction of terrormorphs WITHOUT the fight in between, they just die.

Aceles it would be like watching a lion and tiger go at it. You don't know who is going to win, but if a terror morph wins, what then? People die. A little possible sickness, vs two kaiju's going on it, what would you decide?

Why would you trust the scientists who couldn't even tell that heat leeches are baby terrormorphs?

[Kavrel]

Yeah, I think they just want to take the more expeditious solution.

I get it, terrormorphs are terrible (ha) and are definitely going to kill more people before the aceles plan can take effect; but those attacks should be few and far between after the preventative measures that were put in place. I chose to bring back the aceles and avoid the possibility of the anti-terrormorph virus mutating and killing things it wasn't supposed to.

[Angela]

Originally posted by fauxpas:

Why would you trust the scientists who couldn't even tell that heat leeches are baby terrormorphs?

Why would you want to protect these "people" from future possible and -totally unforeseen - pandemic?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3031968797

[M'Hæl]

Originally posted by fauxpas:

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

The way it is explained, is Aceles are kind of like MUCH larger bisons. Territorial, non-aggressive creatures. However, if they were brought back, they would grow/populate and eventually discover humans as either a threat, or a possible territory blocker, hence the concern they displayed. Where as the microbe is a biological weapon designed specifically for the destruction of terrormorphs WITHOUT the fight in between, they just die.

Aceles it would be like watching a lion and tiger go at it. You don't know who is going to win, but if a terror morph wins, what then? People die. A little possible sickness, vs two kaiju's going on it, what would you decide?

Why would you trust the scientists who couldn't even tell that heat leeches are baby terrormorphs?

Exactly my thought. If the scientists are so damn dumb they can't figure out the heatleeches and terrormorph share the same genome then why in gods name would you trust them to create a biological weapon?

[fauxpas]

Originally posted by Angela:

Originally posted by fauxpas:

Why would you trust the scientists who couldn't even tell that heat leeches are baby terrormorphs?

Why would you want to protect these "people" from future possible and -totally unforeseen :feste:- pandemic?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3031968797

Because at the time I thought I'd have to live in the same society with them and if they get sick I might.

[Angela]

Originally posted by fauxpas:

Originally posted by Angela:

Why would you want to protect these "people" from future possible and -totally unforeseen - pandemic?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3031968797

Because at the time I thought I'd have to live in the same society with them and if they get sick I might.

I figured it would have added a bit of extra hilarity to game if the whole population started choking and falling down dying around me.

Could then loot their social clothes.

[caesar_andy]

Originally posted by Steppenrazor:

you'd think at least some companions would be "mmmm.. love me some Aceles fajitas... " or something?

That just depends on the Education of your crewmates. Scientist will trust into the microbes and prefer that solution because it is faster an could save more lifes. Companions without a scientific background will fear the potential danger from the microbes and therefor prefer the Aceles.

[QuixoticMilotic]

Originally posted by fauxpas:

Originally posted by QuixoticMilotic:

I'm willing to trust that their genetic engineering technology has progressed far enough to ensure that the microbe option is safe, but the Aceles are big and friend shaped so obviously that is still the superior choice. I'm more confused by how they missed that heat leeches share a genome with terrormorphs for so long.

The leech issue is legitimate one bit there is no way to legitimately halt evolution, especially in the accelerated world of microbes.

I have a background in molecular biology so I know a bit about the process. Given 300 years of advances, I'm willing to believe that it is, in fact, "solved science" as the cabinet person says. But yeah, I get that it seems suspicious and my position is solely based on the assumption that the science has, indeed, advanced that far.