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Greed Sep 14, 2023 @ 12:50pm
Starfield vs. The Outer Worlds? Question for people who have played BOTH!
Hey all, just a quick question to the community so I can make an informed decision.

I'm a fan of both Bethesda and Obsidian (i.e. I loved Fallout 3 and New Vegas equally--but leaning towards NV). However, in my opinion, the biggest reason that I did not enjoy myself in the Outer Worlds was because it felt like "Bethesda-lite" for their first new IP.

Is Starfield going to bring more to the table? Or should I suck it up and give Outer Worlds another go until Starfield inevitably goes on sale? Thanks in advance!
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Godrik Underscore Sep 14, 2023 @ 12:53pm 
Starfield feels similar. Bethesda-lite.

I would still encourage you to give it a try and form your own opinion. You can give gamepass a try if you dont want to spend the full amount.
Mathias Giovanni Sep 14, 2023 @ 12:56pm 
Outer Worlds was on rails for me. And it was trying to be fallout in space with the earlier campy style of humor. That works in Fallout because it is so dark to offset the mood in an insane world. Doesn't quite work in a space game and just comes off as lacking in my opinion.

Starfield is nothing like Outer worlds.

What can you do in Starfield?
Looter shooter FPS game. (Fallout 4 with Epic Drops)
Space combat and ship management. (Privateer and Rebel Galaxy Outlaws Style)
Adventure and play the story. (Mass Effect or Star Wars type adventure)
Buid outposts and or gather materials. (Similar to early NMS bases)
Build your own starship piece by piece. (None of the above do it)
Run randomized missions you enjoy. (Privateer and Rebel Galaxy Outlaws style)
Replay the game with a reason. (No Man's Sky twist with restrictions)
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restarter Sep 14, 2023 @ 12:58pm 
not to me no. Starfield has the means to be a much much bigger game with a lot more content.
What Mathias said ^
Last edited by restarter; Sep 14, 2023 @ 12:59pm
zpc Sep 14, 2023 @ 12:59pm 
Originally posted by Greed:
Is Starfield going to bring more to the table? Or should I suck it up and give Outer Worlds another go until Starfield inevitably goes on sale? Thanks in advance!

You can do a lot of playthroughs of Outer Worlds before that happens =)

Having said that, and being a big Outer World / Obsidian fan myself - Starfield takes over where Outer Worlds "ended" - having your own ship, being able to modify said ship (or buy a completely new one, having a garage and choosing which ship to fly), being able to not only land on main story planets but have a lot of planet exploration and some aracade space combat.

Biggest gripe for me: companions aren't controllable and (in contrast to Outer Worlds) have no "special attack".

And of course, Bethesda writing is inferior to the Obsidian one.

All in all I'm enjoying it a lot - playing since early access release and feel like I barely scratched the surface (~150 hours, level 30).
Last edited by zpc; Sep 14, 2023 @ 12:59pm
justfaded Sep 14, 2023 @ 12:59pm 
Starfield is almost exactly like TOW except it has a few more features like outpost building and ship customization. Gameplay loop is pretty much the same and TOW has better writing.
starkmaddness Sep 14, 2023 @ 12:59pm 
Depends on what you are looking for in a game.

The Outer Worlds has a much better role playing feel. More rpg-ish quests, less collecting random loot, more choices. I wasn't a huge fan of some of the writing but Starfield is probably worse.

Starfield has many more systems, like outpost building, ship customization, etc. But a lot of the content is filler content. And the quests that aren't are mostly kill/fetch quests with a bit of dialogue. Starfield has better combat and RPG mechanics. Theoretically better exploring but due to all the procedural planets, exploring sucks.
RandomDude Sep 14, 2023 @ 1:00pm 
I only played the Outer Worlds for a few hours, but from what I gather, it would be a slice (small slice?) of Starfield pie.
Comestibles Sep 14, 2023 @ 1:00pm 
the outer worlds was extremely mediocre, with an extremely predictable story of "corporation bad" cliche that we've seen in over hundreds of books, movies, tv shows, and video games. even for an indie game, it was awfully bland and boring. it also has the worst writing i've seen so far from obsidian, definitely one of their worst games.
Last edited by Comestibles; Sep 14, 2023 @ 1:01pm
Wade Sep 14, 2023 @ 1:01pm 
The Outer Worlds is like 10x better then Starfield. Especially with both DLCs. It's a very good game. 8/10 Don't mind trolls.
Comestibles Sep 14, 2023 @ 1:02pm 
Originally posted by Doc Mitchell:
The Outer Worlds is like 10x better then Starfield. Especially with both DLCs. It's a very good game. 8/10 Don't mind trolls.
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justfaded Sep 14, 2023 @ 1:04pm 
It's actually pretty embarrassing for bethesda how similar the two games are, given the massive difference in budgets.

KOTOR and TOW used hub based fast travel because of budgetary concerns. Why is it in Starfield?
Mathias Giovanni Sep 14, 2023 @ 1:14pm 
Originally posted by justfaded:
It's actually pretty embarrassing for bethesda how similar the two games are, given the massive difference in budgets.

KOTOR and TOW used hub based fast travel because of budgetary concerns. Why is it in Starfield?

Ummm. They are nothing alike. And I'm not sure where the folks think the writing was better. It's about the same except your only game play mechanic is have about 5 different styles of guns to choose from.

If you think the FPS in this game is bad Outer worlds is way worse. It's fine game but there is nothing special about it and zero reason after you complete it to even bother playing it again. It's also a slog in the beginning. Players whine about walking everywhere in Starfield. You do the same or more in Outer Worlds with far less NPC's to fight.

One random facility in Starfield has about the same amount of enemies to fight as the entire first part of the game in the initial region you start in Outer Worlds.

It's really a walking, talking simulator with some gunplay and that is it.
Ed209 Sep 14, 2023 @ 1:17pm 
Originally found The Outer Worlds a bit boring but Starfield changed my perspective completely - really looking forward to the second installment now.
Mister Burkes Sep 14, 2023 @ 1:18pm 
Play Starsector, it's superior to both games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acqpulP1hLo
starkmaddness Sep 14, 2023 @ 1:18pm 
Originally posted by justfaded:
It's actually pretty embarrassing for bethesda how similar the two games are, given the massive difference in budgets.

KOTOR and TOW used hub based fast travel because of budgetary concerns. Why is it in Starfield?

Actually, not sticking to that is what makes Starfield so bad. It is impossible to create content at the scale required to fill multiple planets no matter what the budget is. They could have gone the Kotor route with 5x the content and created an amazing game. Instead we have procedural nonsense, and tons of filler content. Procedural games are boring, and will always be boring, until AI can generate the content for them, preferably on the fly.
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