Elder Scrolls VI will use the same engine, will you pre-order?

[Lord Dralisz]

I've played every fallout games and elder scrolls games and playing Starfield feels like I've been already played this game before. It will ruin the next Elder Scrolls too.

[Tantrumus]

Blows my mind they dont adopt UE5

[Lef]

Ursprungligen skrivet av M4st0d0n:

ES6 is pure vaporware, and I dont see Bethesda making a profit with their current gamepass fodder.

i don t thin kyou realize how much money Microsoft make with gamepass

[Lef]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Tantrumus:

Blows my mind they dont adopt UE5

being reliant on other people engine is not always a good thing as Unity proved recently

[patrick68794]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Tantrumus:

Blows my mind they dont adopt UE5

that's because you don't know anything about game development.

[patrick68794]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Lennart Bedrager:

I was almost exclusivly interested in this game because of the new engine that's going to be used in TES6. I did not buy it yet, going to do that once there is a good discount in a year or two. I'm too old to buy bethesda games at release date... ;) (TES in an exeption) I had a look via youtube though. I didn't like what i saw. The "new" engine seems to be an updated version of their former engine and it looks to me like it will reproduce the same issues that the creation engine had. The engine seems to be optimized for firefights, which i did not like in Fallout but everything else look kinda mediocre and very familiar. Since i didn't play it yet i can't really say anything about the engine but from what i've seen it doesn't look good. Going to buy TES6 but my expectations have been lowered quite a bit.

Btw. I like the salt on this hub from people believing Todds misleading statements. Only Todd and his marketing team think that "exploring a planet" means having an invisible wall and other stuff.

They never were creating a new engine for this game. You misunderstood what they said about it. Basically no established game studios build new engines. It's a massive undertaking and can take longer than making an actual game.

BGS overhauled large pieces of their engine, essentially what Epic has done with Unreal for every "new" release for the last 20 years, to support modern graphics APIs and technologies, and to include additional features and mechanics that they need for their next game.

[Zhorge]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Lord Dralisz:

I've played every fallout games and elder scrolls games and playing Starfield feels like I've been already played this game before. It will ruin the next Elder Scrolls too.

Take my money. Take it now, Todd.

I don't play these games for superficial graphics. I have a number of games that look really spectacular. But ended up sucking because too much time was spent on art and not enough on the things I love.

[Zhorge]

Ursprungligen skrivet av patrick68794:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Lennart Bedrager:

I was almost exclusivly interested in this game because of the new engine that's going to be used in TES6. I did not buy it yet, going to do that once there is a good discount in a year or two. I'm too old to buy bethesda games at release date... ;) (TES in an exeption) I had a look via youtube though. I didn't like what i saw. The "new" engine seems to be an updated version of their former engine and it looks to me like it will reproduce the same issues that the creation engine had. The engine seems to be optimized for firefights, which i did not like in Fallout but everything else look kinda mediocre and very familiar. Since i didn't play it yet i can't really say anything about the engine but from what i've seen it doesn't look good. Going to buy TES6 but my expectations have been lowered quite a bit.

Btw. I like the salt on this hub from people believing Todds misleading statements. Only Todd and his marketing team think that "exploring a planet" means having an invisible wall and other stuff.

They never were creating a new engine for this game. You misunderstood what they said about it. Basically no established game studios build new engines. It's a massive undertaking and can take longer than making an actual game.

BGS overhauled large pieces of their engine, essentially what Epic has done with Unreal for every "new" release for the last 20 years, to support modern graphics APIs and technologies, and to include additional features and mechanics that they need for their next game.

The ingornati never seem to understand that after the first implementation when they are truly new, new engines aren't new from the ground up. They use old code and just add to it.

Unity (2005)
CryEngine (2002)
Unreal (1998)
Lumberyard (a forked CryEngine) 2015
etc.

[Tantrumus]

Ursprungligen skrivet av patrick68794:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Tantrumus:

Blows my mind they dont adopt UE5

that's because you don't know anything about game development.

Yup 4 years of Zbrush and knowing C++ (which UE leverages and is far more difficult than C# which Unity leverages) makes me an infant compared to your master knowledge. I highly doubt the Creation Engine 2 uses a language like C++ but I could be mistaken. I am thinking its far easier for them to hire C# coders than C++. Prob Papyrus.... I really can't stand people like you that just jump on someone for a simple statement knowing NOTHING about their background.

[PortalShifter]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Vraixen:

If creation engine is outdated then it should be updated... SIMPLE AS THAT, stop asking for UE.. it just ruin the games market having only one Engine.

What Bethesda would do at this point if they weren't lazy and greedy would be to code a new engine from scratch, with the intention of making it highly moddable. They have the money to do this. But they won't do it, because instead of spending that money to deliver you a better product, they're going to sell you a cheap crappy product instead and keep that money for themselves.

[Maken X]

Severely outdated engine + "modern" gaming = No.

[CloversDrop]

I'll not be buying another Bethesda game.
They've become very lazy developers in my opinion.
Probably employing people based on their sexual orientation or preferred pronouns rather than talent.
Got to chase those ESG scores

[spliff]

consider it done.

[PortalShifter]

Ursprungligen skrivet av patrick68794:

Basically no established game studios build new engines. It's a massive undertaking and can take longer than making an actual game.

This is not true. Plenty of companies built their own engines back when companies cared about making good games instead of just making games packed with microtransactions.

I'm looking at you, ID software and John Carmack.

Bethesda would be in a perfect position to do this, since they have the money, and because they just make the same game over and over. They could spend the money once to put in the effort to have a good engine for better video games for the next 20 years, but they won't because they want all the money and they know people will accept the Creation Engine because hey, how else are you going to play ES6?

[Einheri]

Ursprungligen skrivet av patrick68794:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Lennart Bedrager:

I was almost exclusivly interested in this game because of the new engine that's going to be used in TES6. I did not buy it yet, going to do that once there is a good discount in a year or two. I'm too old to buy bethesda games at release date... ;) (TES in an exeption) I had a look via youtube though. I didn't like what i saw. The "new" engine seems to be an updated version of their former engine and it looks to me like it will reproduce the same issues that the creation engine had. The engine seems to be optimized for firefights, which i did not like in Fallout but everything else look kinda mediocre and very familiar. Since i didn't play it yet i can't really say anything about the engine but from what i've seen it doesn't look good. Going to buy TES6 but my expectations have been lowered quite a bit.

Btw. I like the salt on this hub from people believing Todds misleading statements. Only Todd and his marketing team think that "exploring a planet" means having an invisible wall and other stuff.

They never were creating a new engine for this game. You misunderstood what they said about it. Basically no established game studios build new engines. It's a massive undertaking and can take longer than making an actual game.

BGS overhauled large pieces of their engine, essentially what Epic has done with Unreal for every "new" release for the last 20 years, to support modern graphics APIs and technologies, and to include additional features and mechanics that they need for their next game.

I am aware on how engines are improved and usually not completely made from ground up. As i said it looks like the engine is finally more or less made for firefights but while looking at it i did not see anything impressive. If i would have been impressed i would say it's a "new"engine (heavily improved creation engine) but from what i've seen i'd rather call it improved creation engine. I haven't actually played the game though, so maybe i'm wrong and it feels great. People on the internet are complaining about the engine though. Not a good start if they want to use it the next 20 years.

[darkholyPL]

Ursprungligen skrivet av arthahar:

Ursprungligen skrivet av darkholyPL:

Well that's because it's not 'their' engine, they didn't make it, they bought it.
That's also why they can't just re-write it, and that's why you get the same bugs, limitations, glitches etc. since Morrowind.

Are you sure about "they bought it". As I read it's internal BGS development.

Yes I'm sure. I actually thought it was common knowledge, guess not..

Anyway, I realised that, despite posting here, I never gave my opinion on the original question. So here it is: absolutely not. I haven't bought Starfield for a reason, and won't be buying TES6 if it's still this mesozoic era engine running it.