Vladimir Sall

[FKA]

Why is a dude named Vladimir, who also happens to have the thickest Russian/Slavic accent in the entire game, black?

Did they misplace some files or something? It's so weird to talk to this dude every single time, my brain just does not understand what's going on.

[FKA]

Originally posted by CuAnnan:

Originally posted by Blonde:

Black people with a British accent still sound black

This is it.
The dumbest thing I'll ever read.
Well done.

Nah, but you have got nothing to say. So I accept your concession.

[ofn]

Blacks created Russia.
The first Tsar was black.

[Partyrock]

Originally posted by Blonde:

Why is a dude named Vladimir, who also happens to have the thickest Russian/Slavic accent in the entire game, black?

Did they misplace some files or something? It's so weird to talk to this dude every single time, my brain just does not understand what's going on.

The company was happy to trade in immersion factor for woke points.

[Toblm]

Originally posted by Blonde:

Originally posted by Toblm:

Which British of the 40 accents? Are you sure you are not just associating certain regional British accents with races inaccurately?

The other consider is which generation is this accented speaker. 2nd? 5th? Learning English from a 1st generation English speaker results in a different accent than learning it from a 7th generation speaker.

Vladimir exists in a universe some 300 years post evacuation. Thats some 10 generations. I promise the accent you use is not the same as the accent you 10th ancestor uses, even assuming you speak the same language.

But the moral boils down to, just because you've not experienced it doesnt mean it doesnt exist in the face of evidence to the direct contrary. Accent is learned, its not genetic, its not racial, it is learned.

You seem to not understand. I'm not necessarily talking about accent alone, I'm talking about the accent in combination with the voice. Everyone can replicate a certain accent when you're exposed to it long enough, changing your voice however isn't so easy. It does not matter if a black person grew up in Russia or another part of Eastern Europe, he would never sound like that in real life. That voice is clearly the voice of a white Slavic person.

The voice IS the accent. The accent IS the voice.

[FKA]

Originally posted by Toblm:

Originally posted by Blonde:

You seem to not understand. I'm not necessarily talking about accent alone, I'm talking about the accent in combination with the voice. Everyone can replicate a certain accent when you're exposed to it long enough, changing your voice however isn't so easy. It does not matter if a black person grew up in Russia or another part of Eastern Europe, he would never sound like that in real life. That voice is clearly the voice of a white Slavic person.

The voice IS the accent. The accent IS the voice.

No, that's not how it works. Kind of a ridiculous thing to say.

[Fear2288]

IIRC, Russia today is becoming more and more diplomatically, economically, and militarily (mainly indirectly) involved with various African countries.

Is it such a far fetch then for a game that takes place 300 years from now to take that and create a hypothetical future where Russia and the countries of Africa became closer and closer allies - leading to more immigration from Africa to Russia and a larger presence of “Black Russians” who would grow up and learn to speak like “White Russians”?

[ThuntCumper]

to be fair, in space it'd be alot different than it is now on earth, especially so long after leaving earth. its not like black people will all be from africa now, there is gunna be people born and raised completely in space with a bunch of people who are probably gunna look completely different. in the expanse books they actually talk alot about how the dialects and accents are completely different than they were on earth, atleast more of a jumbled combination of several different accents and dialects.

[FKA]

Originally posted by Ragnar:

Originally posted by Blonde:

Also, why is he even black? They already recorded the voice lines with a distinctive Eastern European accent. The majority of characters in this game are already black, at least give us some proper diversity by making him Bulgarian or Hungarian or something.

I think it's useless to ask Tood to make Vlad white, you live in society. Also it's useless to complain, no one hear the voice of mind today.

Go to Vlad in his station, open console and create blank npc to store your look:
player.placeatme 0014e399

Then select this NPC and type:
capp player
Now he looks like you;

Select Vladimir and type
This
You'll get his ID;

Switch to 3rd person view and select player, type:
capp [Vlad's ID] without brackets;
Now you look like black Vlad!

Type
slm player 2
Edit this to white Vlad;

Then you'll need to select Vlad and type
capp player

Then you must get blanc npc's ID and copy his stored looks back to player. Select player:
capp [NPC's ID]

Select NPC to delete him:
disable

I found a preset for him that makes him look Slavic. Thanks.

[Lichlord9333]

Originally posted by WN Zerberr:

It's likely due to russo-ukrainian war that happened during production and it was too late to redo all voice acting related to him

Honestly I get people being against Russia at this war, but it has in many cases devolved to plain racism and actual hatred towards the people it's actually disgusting.

[FKA]

Originally posted by Gunnar:

Originally posted by Blonde:

Nah, but you have got nothing to say. So I accept your concession.

You've conveniently ignored the people who have actually explained to you why your argument makes no sense.

The evidence you've provided is "I listen to drill and watch football". That means ♥♥♥♥ all. You're condensing an entire ethnic group's range of accents in the UK into rappers and footballers. You're acting as if your anecdotal experience is sound evidence when it's not. You're assuming, based on nothing, that just because you haven't heard any black British people that don't sound obviously black then they must not exist.

The way people speak, both the accent they have and the words and phrases they use, is influenced by their cultural surroundings. So, surprise, a lot of rappers speak similarly. It's not genetic; it's entirely cultural.

Show me 1 black guy with a British accent that sounds like a white guy.

[LordMoore]

Don't know, Don't care, it's a game and a fictional character, get over it

[starkmaddness]

Originally posted by Galadhlinn:

Another person who cannot imagine a single black person in the largest country in the world. FYI there are over 1 million black people living in Russia at the moment.
Now can we imagine that even one in one million is named Vladimir? lol

You are either on drugs or intentionally lying.

Russia has 144 Million people. Only about 50k are Black. So now can you understand why it feels like an odd choice?

How about this, imagine a White dude with a Japanese accent, about as common. Now imagine how people would react.

[vandalism]

Big Blyat Conspiracy

[Marae]

I'm honestly more confused about accents, knowing that it can take remarkably short amounts of time for accents to diminish, how have accents persisted in a post Earth society.

I'd imagine if a deep 'Russian' accent manages to persist, that would mean there's a 'little Russia' colony keeping it alive, same with the Aussie, Irish, African etc.

[Arkham99]

I just got Vladimir's Trading Card dropped into my inventory lol... guess the badge was added with the update?... there was no badge/trading cards last week...:-)