Vendors with only 5000 cash, simply so they can say the game has more hours of game play than it does. IS TRASH!

[WarWolf]

seriously lets be honest that's the only reason for Bethesda to do this. this is just a cheap way of stealing time and is cheating people out of a better game. because they where to lazy to add the extra real content to make the game great.

[Jackbwlch]

Originally posted by WarWolf:

Originally posted by Kranc / Fr0Zen1:

I already pastered the Game with Mods. Including one that fixes Vendor Cash.
Sadly Bethesda had to deploy a useless DLSS Update that did not add DLSS but broke Mods.
No clue if the Mod works with current Version but it's called "Richer Merchants".

TY

It won't be worth using mods until at least after all the dlc's come out.

[MagicHp]

You are stuck and can't progress because vendors don't have money anymore?!?

Buy ammo if you just want to empty your inventory...
If you just want to hoard every little penny you can make ingame, that is your issue ^^

[Stone]

Originally posted by WarWolf:

seriously lets be honest that's the only reason for Bethesda to do this. this is just a cheap way of stealing time and is cheating people out of a better game. because they where to lazy to add the extra real content to make the game great.

I'm glad they made a limit to discourage players from feeling the need to loot every last item and fast travel back and forth and back and forth all day long trying to min/max credits, because its totally pointless. You don't need to go to those lengths to end up with more than enough credits. Save yourself the trouble.

[Kranc / Fr0Zen1]

Originally posted by Jackbwlch:

It's mainly to stop stupid people spending all their time picking up useless crap to sell and then complain the game is boring.

Yea, because it pays so good to pick up random Stuff... cough
I bet you are totally right and he tries to sell 5000 Folders or Toiletpaper... NOT

This Game is broken Garbo, as all Bugthesda Games before.
You can't even ban Items from showing up on the Scanner.

But hey, why don't you choke on this List of GARBAGE?!

No Vats - No Gore - Can't open Doors, defuse Mines, use Items... when in Scan Mode - Can't control jump height. NPCs can do that. A Charge up Meter is really needed on some Moons, or you fly off like a Rocket - Boost Packs not really suitable ever/meaning that you need different kinds of Boosters for different Situations but also you need Resistances against Korrosion, Air, Radiation, Bio, and somewhat level conforming Laser, EMP, Bullet Resistance = you need 12+ Boost Packs - Crafting and Building Copy Paste from FO4 but with worse placement control - Awful Controls overall. The game works on GamePad but you need your whole Keyboard if you choose to play on the Keyboard. Make ready to rebind 50 Keys and ignore Conflicts - Very few and lackluster Feats - You should start with level one on each Skill - Skills need to be way more "Exotic". ATM they are mostly "more DMG, can Craft, can buy, can fly - Item Feats are mostly useless and are Copy Paste from FO4 - Skill progression is mostly forgettable and unimaginative - EXP from discovering, Hacking, building, crafting is nearly not existent - Item Notifications gone after 1.5sec = can't check Stats = open Inventory - Carry Capacity sucks - You can't mark individual Items to look/track for - You can't undo all tracking Items - Inventory Menu sucks! StarUI Mod needed = modding mandatory or wasting hours unnecessarily - Can't use Cure Object in Affliction Screen. Again StarUI Mandatory - Not showing "Weather(Corrosion/Radiation...)" Conditions on Planet before landing- Map is awful - Quests send you to places you can't reach - Lifeless Planets are useless - Copy pasted Bases/Caves... no sign of prcedurally generated Locations - Often looking to Scan "Natural Wonder" that I already Scanned because it's not identifyable from the Picture - Planet Map shows 100% scanned even if it's not because of "Costal Area" - Escort Quests that have you travel 1000m+ for low reward - You can't ban Useless Items from Scanner - Rare/Legendary/Epic Items cause 2sec Game Freeze when Equiped and changing to Scanner or cyceling through Weapons - Space Combat at least unskilled at early Levels is pure Stats Game and often undoable because 3v1 - No feeling of actually flying through Space - You still get Stuck and can not jump when on angled Ground as in FO4/Skyrim/Oblivion... - NPC Money should be infinite or at least increased by 4x - Items you pick up/have in Inventory show the worth they have when you buy them from a Merchant, but they should show what they are worth to you, when you sell them - NPC standing on Pilot Seat so only 3rd Person Space Flight or piloting through gap between NPCs Legs - Enemies/Animals on Planet stacked in a Heap, so you think you will fight 3, but it ends up being 12 or more all stacked into one tiny Spot and into each other - Melee Combat as bad as it was in any other Bethesda Game (look what modders did to Skyrims Combat Animations) - Reloading gets Canceled by running and jumping - Typical Bethesda Bullet-Sponge Enemies - Typical run around/jump over Obsacles and slowly chip away their Health - In Ship flight you need to be able to make custom Presets for "Full Power Weapons, Grav Drive, Engines, Shields..." and bind them to F1-F4 or any other Key you choose - Needs City/Outpost/Other Listing on Star-Map to find the Locations + placement of own nameable Markers - Needs Button to stop Quests from coming in. I get 5 new Quests when running around doing one Quest. I don't know how I got the Quests. I don't know whom the Quests are from. I have no connection to them.

GARBAGE GAME
BETHESDA LEARNED NOTHING

[Simpie Senpai]

I'm not sure what your deal with money is. You can't even buy anything useful with it. I have 400K and built a massive class C ugly for like 150K. Nothing is worth crafting and just playing the game yields the best items.

[Theo]

Go to the trade place in the well and sell you stuff. There is a bench in the same room that you can rest and it will refresh her money.

[Purple Sauce]

Originally posted by MadDawg2552:

You obviously never learned how to buy and sell stuff in a Bethesda game.

First, you load up on everything you want to buy, then you sell what you can until the vendor hits 0 monies.

Second, you go to the next vendor and do the same thing.

Been that way since Fallout 3.

And that is a very s*** way of designing games. What is so hard to understand about this? Why defend this terrible practice?

[wowcoh56]

Originally posted by WarWolf:

seriously lets be honest that's the only reason for Bethesda to do this. this is just a cheap way of stealing time and is cheating people out of a better game. because they where to lazy to add the extra real content to make the game great.

thats how all there games are... vendors never have tons of money... wait for mods to fix

[MadDawg2552]

Originally posted by Purple Sauce:

Originally posted by MadDawg2552:

You obviously never learned how to buy and sell stuff in a Bethesda game.

First, you load up on everything you want to buy, then you sell what you can until the vendor hits 0 monies.

Second, you go to the next vendor and do the same thing.

Been that way since Fallout 3.

And that is a very s*** way of designing games. What is so hard to understand about this? Why defend this terrible practice?

I'm not defending anything, I'm telling you how it is.

[Jackbwlch]

Originally posted by Kranc / Fr0Zen1:

Originally posted by Jackbwlch:

It's mainly to stop stupid people spending all their time picking up useless crap to sell and then complain the game is boring.

Yea, because it pays so good to pick up random Stuff... cough
I bet you are totally right and he tries to sell 5000 Folders or Toiletpaper... NOT

This Game is broken Garbo, as all Bugthesda Games before.
You can't even ban Items from showing up on the Scanner.

But hey, why don't you choke on this List of GARBAGE?!

No Vats - No Gore - Can't open Doors, defuse Mines, use Items... when in Scan Mode - Can't control jump height. NPCs can do that. A Charge up Meter is really needed on some Moons, or you fly off like a Rocket - Boost Packs not really suitable ever/meaning that you need different kinds of Boosters for different Situations but also you need Resistances against Korrosion, Air, Radiation, Bio, and somewhat level conforming Laser, EMP, Bullet Resistance = you need 12+ Boost Packs - Crafting and Building Copy Paste from FO4 but with worse placement control - Awful Controls overall. The game works on GamePad but you need your whole Keyboard if you choose to play on the Keyboard. Make ready to rebind 50 Keys and ignore Conflicts - Very few and lackluster Feats - You should start with level one on each Skill - Skills need to be way more "Exotic". ATM they are mostly "more DMG, can Craft, can buy, can fly - Item Feats are mostly useless and are Copy Paste from FO4 - Skill progression is mostly forgettable and unimaginative - EXP from discovering, Hacking, building, crafting is nearly not existent - Item Notifications gone after 1.5sec = can't check Stats = open Inventory - Carry Capacity sucks - You can't mark individual Items to look/track for - You can't undo all tracking Items - Inventory Menu sucks! StarUI Mod needed = modding mandatory or wasting hours unnecessarily - Can't use Cure Object in Affliction Screen. Again StarUI Mandatory - Not showing "Weather(Corrosion/Radiation...)" Conditions on Planet before landing- Map is awful - Quests send you to places you can't reach - Lifeless Planets are useless - Copy pasted Bases/Caves... no sign of prcedurally generated Locations - Often looking to Scan "Natural Wonder" that I already Scanned because it's not identifyable from the Picture - Planet Map shows 100% scanned even if it's not because of "Costal Area" - Escort Quests that have you travel 1000m+ for low reward - You can't ban Useless Items from Scanner - Rare/Legendary/Epic Items cause 2sec Game Freeze when Equiped and changing to Scanner or cyceling through Weapons - Space Combat at least unskilled at early Levels is pure Stats Game and often undoable because 3v1 - No feeling of actually flying through Space - You still get Stuck and can not jump when on angled Ground as in FO4/Skyrim/Oblivion... - NPC Money should be infinite or at least increased by 4x - Items you pick up/have in Inventory show the worth they have when you buy them from a Merchant, but they should show what they are worth to you, when you sell them - NPC standing on Pilot Seat so only 3rd Person Space Flight or piloting through gap between NPCs Legs - Enemies/Animals on Planet stacked in a Heap, so you think you will fight 3, but it ends up being 12 or more all stacked into one tiny Spot and into each other - Melee Combat as bad as it was in any other Bethesda Game (look what modders did to Skyrims Combat Animations) - Reloading gets Canceled by running and jumping - Typical Bethesda Bullet-Sponge Enemies - Typical run around/jump over Obsacles and slowly chip away their Health - In Ship flight you need to be able to make custom Presets for "Full Power Weapons, Grav Drive, Engines, Shields..." and bind them to F1-F4 or any other Key you choose - Needs City/Outpost/Other Listing on Star-Map to find the Locations + placement of own nameable Markers - Needs Button to stop Quests from coming in. I get 5 new Quests when running around doing one Quest. I don't know how I got the Quests. I don't know whom the Quests are from. I have no connection to them.

GARBAGE GAME
BETHESDA LEARNED NOTHING

WaaaaWaaaaaa!!!!!!! I dont know how to play a bethesda game and have fun.

[Metal]

Yeah this game isn't as good as it should be and it's far from perfect but it's still early after release and a lot of these issues will be fixed over time, officially or not. The more you ♥♥♥♥♥ about it the more upset you'll be, it changes nothing.

I agree though, realistically a ship trader should have around 3x the cost of their most expensive ship in disposable credits, but they clearly didn't consider this in pre-production. We are all paying game testers in this new generation of gaming. It will only get worse if we continue to accept it.

[Kranc / Fr0Zen1]

Originally posted by MadDawg2552:

Originally posted by Purple Sauce:

And that is a very s*** way of designing games. What is so hard to understand about this? Why defend this terrible practice?

I'm not defending anything, I'm telling you how it is.

Let me tell you how it really is ^^
You mod in a better System and piss on the Bank others spend their Life on xD

Have a nice one

[★ Black Prince ★]

Originally posted by wowcoh56:

Originally posted by WarWolf:

seriously lets be honest that's the only reason for Bethesda to do this. this is just a cheap way of stealing time and is cheating people out of a better game. because they where to lazy to add the extra real content to make the game great.

thats how all there games are... vendors never have tons of money... wait for mods to fix

So, you are still shilling in a different platform?
No matter what game it is, you'll keep doing this right?

Holy jeez dude...
Go out and touch some grass my buddy, you were defending COH3 with this same attitude and reporting others for saying the opposite. This is embarrassing, stop it.

[Zalzany]

How does this add more hours.. when you wait next to the vendor those fake hours don't count torwards you total played hours sorry that isn't how it works. and if you can't wait 12 hours in less then a minute you don't have min req to play it properly to begin with sigh

[Ammikaameri]

I think the correct solution is to lower the sell value of items (weapons, armor). It is too easy to make money currently. The lower limits help a bit but a lot of players end up just waiting 48 hours to keep selling. I'm not hauling 100 weapons from every trip, only a few expensive ones to trade for ammo and resources and a bit of money.

But the merchant skill could increase the vendor money by like 1k per level.