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Elder scrolls 6 is going to be a joke
They have been going downhill since skyrim, that game at least was a blast to explore even if it was horrible at rpg , but this? This is the work of how many years? This fallout 4 space skin with even LESS rpg elements than fallout 4? If elder scrolls 6 follows the trend it will probably just be an open world hack and slash with perks and 0 decision making. Keep the smoke selling Todd, its the only thing keeping the company alive.
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On release? Of course, name one Bethesda title that wasn't.
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On release? Of course, name one Bethesda title that wasn't.
Im not talking about bugs
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Elder scrolls 6 is going to be a joke

That's why so many of us are still watching Starfield closely. We're concerned that Bethesda won't have learned from all of their mistakes, and that being under MS now means they just don't care anymore. It would absolutely ruin The Elder Scrolls to have TES VI be any less of a game than Skyrim, and honestly most of us want a return to Morrowind or Oblivion quality in it.

Sadly, we're holding onto hope, despite the fact it's probably gone.
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Rilgar55 lähetti viestin:
Elder scrolls 6 is going to be a joke

That's why so many of us are still watching Starfield closely. We're concerned that Bethesda won't have learned from all of their mistakes, and that being under MS now means they just don't care anymore. It would absolutely ruin The Elder Scrolls to have TES VI be any less of a game than Skyrim, and honestly most of us want a return to Morrowind or Oblivion quality in it.

Sadly, we're holding onto hope, despite the fact it's probably gone.

The downward trajectory didn't start with Starfield, that's the worrying part. It's nice to hold on to hope but the quality of Beth games isn't trending in the right direction.
The worst part about this, Elder Scrolls 6 is being trashed already based on... nothing. So the forum will be full of Elder Scrolls 6 trashing for the next four years until it gets its own forum. Lovely.
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The worst part about this, Elder Scrolls 6 is being trashed already based on... nothing. So the forum will be full of Elder Scrolls 6 trashing for the next four years until it gets its own forum. Lovely.
They'll buy it anyway too- after knowing for multiple years that they wouldn't like it.
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The worst part about this, Elder Scrolls 6 is being trashed already based on... nothing. So the forum will be full of Elder Scrolls 6 trashing for the next four years until it gets its own forum. Lovely.
They'll buy it anyway too- after knowing for multiple years that they wouldn't like it.
Sounds about right.
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The worst part about this, Elder Scrolls 6 is being trashed already based on... nothing. So the forum will be full of Elder Scrolls 6 trashing for the next four years until it gets its own forum. Lovely.
They'll buy it anyway too- after knowing for multiple years that they wouldn't like it.
Exactly why aaa gaming companies will never learn, cause they dont have to
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Rilgar55 lähetti viestin:
Elder scrolls 6 is going to be a joke

That's why so many of us are still watching Starfield closely. We're concerned that Bethesda won't have learned from all of their mistakes, and that being under MS now means they just don't care anymore. It would absolutely ruin The Elder Scrolls to have TES VI be any less of a game than Skyrim, and honestly most of us want a return to Morrowind or Oblivion quality in it.

Sadly, we're holding onto hope, despite the fact it's probably gone.

i personally think this will only come through fan made projects like skyblivion or skywind and the beyond skyrim team mods, so we may not have much hope for bethesda to make a good game ever again, but we at the very least do have the modders who have been working on these projects for the last decade straight, and i got to say their mods are very close to being done, so they couldn't come at a better time if you ask me, Skyblivion is estimated to be done by early 2025, i know that's a ways away from now, but if you think about it for as long as it's been in production by the modding community, it makes sense that it would take as long as it has and mostly on volunteer work, skywind on the other hand is a little further out, but it was being created roughly at the same time Skyblivion was started, so just hang in there.

we don't have to always depend on bethesda to make something good, the real magic comes from the modding community.
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They'll buy it anyway too- after knowing for multiple years that they wouldn't like it.
Exactly why aaa gaming companies will never learn, cause they dont have to
Learn what exactly? How to satisfy the majority of gamers? Will never happen. If you look at a lot of posts here, there is zero chance to make a game up to their standards. Although, player standards change per game, which makes it impossible.

So they can make whatever they make for Elder Scrolls 6. Like it, don't like it, cool. Buy it or don't, no problem. But if you want to judge the game that all you've seen are some mountains for five seconds, and you KNOW it's going to be a joke, why even think about it? Why is it even on your radar?
I don't think it will be a joke, however I'm worried ...
So let me get this right...a mobile gamer is now behind the drive for ES6?
And that's good news?
OMG...at least I'll get to enjoy the ride down this slippery slope!

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee........
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Exactly why aaa gaming companies will never learn, cause they dont have to
Learn what exactly? How to satisfy the majority of gamers? Will never happen. If you look at a lot of posts here, there is zero chance to make a game up to their standards. Although, player standards change per game, which makes it impossible.

So they can make whatever they make for Elder Scrolls 6. Like it, don't like it, cool. Buy it or don't, no problem. But if you want to judge the game that all you've seen are some mountains for five seconds, and you KNOW it's going to be a joke, why even think about it? Why is it even on your radar?

Can you please everybody? No.

Can you please the majority of your target audience? Absolutely.

If your statement was correct you'd never see a game with "Very Positive" or "Overwhelmingly Positive" aggregates but they still get released regularly.

Another thing that might help is to cut down on deceptive marketing.
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Learn what exactly? How to satisfy the majority of gamers? Will never happen. If you look at a lot of posts here, there is zero chance to make a game up to their standards. Although, player standards change per game, which makes it impossible.

So they can make whatever they make for Elder Scrolls 6. Like it, don't like it, cool. Buy it or don't, no problem. But if you want to judge the game that all you've seen are some mountains for five seconds, and you KNOW it's going to be a joke, why even think about it? Why is it even on your radar?

Can you please everybody? No.

Can you please the majority of your target audience? Absolutely.

If your statement was correct you'd never see a game with "Very Positive" or "Overwhelmingly Positive" aggregates but they still get released regularly.

Another thing that might help is to cut down on deceptive marketing.
Some good points. However, in 2024 and beyond, there is nothing Bethesda can do to satisfy the majority of gamers, or their target audience, because they're AAA. People are expecting UE5 tech demo games from AAA studios. They're expecting Quentin Tarantino level of writing. They're expecting a game play loop of a world's worth of unique content. And then complain that it runs poorly on an HDD.
I hope Elder Scrolls 6 has good character creation. You could make a femboy in Oblivion but you could not do that in Skyrim or Elder Scrolls Online. We need Face Sliders, Body Sliders, maybe voice customization, Hair Colour Sliders, Skin Colour Sliders, Face Texture Customization, animation customization, Saving and Loading Presets and more. Oblivion was using the Elden Ring Character Creation which is FaceGen, so the crazy amount of sliders allowed you to make incredibly diverse looking people in Oblivion. Face Gen has it's own problem of sliders affecting other sliders like if you edit your mouth it will also edit your eyes or something else so you constantly had to go back and forth micro adjusting things. But in Skyrim there really wasn't that much options with limited sliders (even Sigurd who sounds young and is working for Belethor looks like he's 76 years old) and Elder Scrolls Online sliders barely went anywhere. Not to mention every male face in ESO had like Stubble or a lot of wrinkles and your body was covered in fur. High Elf wasn't as hairy but the faces were still really wrinkly and angry unlike the CGI cutscene elves in the Intros who look beautiful. Like even the elf guy who gets killed in the Summerset Isle's trailer looks cool. But you can't even look like him.
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