this game IS FUN

[Raphx]

to contradict another post because I think there are enough people who put the game down after more than 100 hours on it or just to reviewbomb
and always the same comments while the game has a lot of qualities

[Cephei]

Starfield is boring, sterile , flat and dull. A shameless cashgrab expecting modders to fix their game. Putting content behind a paywall that should have been in the game at launch.

[Starbug]

I read feedback from users who own the game. And ignore the banal "critique" of those who don't.

[Mephitic]

Starfield is great fun and not the least bit boring. Boredom is a self-induced state of being. The game is only boring if one wants it to be so. Why would anyone do that? Starfield is engaging and entertaining with a very high replay value.

[LeBurns]

To quote myself to Muria, "Because I hate myself".

But seriously I played a while, stopped for a few months. A couple large patches later I'm back in and really liking it. IMO the games has made some nice (and often much needed) improvements in the last year. So right now I'm putting in the hours, waiting on Shattered Space to give me even more to do.

[goldbergeri79]

Its also a matter of taste. Not everyone likes scifi RPG but why then complain about it beyond me.

I really enjoyed starfield and soon will start my 2nd big do everything playtrough where i take my time to explore POIs etc. I know i have not seen them all yet so there are new discoveries awaiting for me.

I left outposts and shipbuilding out from 1st playtrough on purpose so i got exciting things to do on 2nd one.

[Raphx]

this game is on of the best y ever played

[Raphx]

y have restarted 3 x the game from start and always fun

[=CrimsoN=]

It is great fun!! I've wanted something like Starfield since the late 90s and early 2000s. I grew up with stuff like Wing Commander Privateer and Freelancer. But I also love Mass Effect and KOTOR. The one thing missing was combining elements of both games in a way that works well and this is what Starfield is to me. There really isn't anything else like it. There might be some games that do things better, but none that combine space flight with an fully fleshed out RPG on the scale of Starfield.

NMS is cool and all, but it's not an RPG... I don't know what you can call NMS now either. Elite Dangerous has an amazing flight model with a lot of depth, but it's not an RPG and the on-foot sections are pitiful. Star Citizen is a close comparison, but again...not an RPG and the emphasis on multiplayer kills it for me. X4 has a lot that you can do, but its not an RPG and has no real on foot sections (you can walk around in spaces and use an EVA suit, but it's limited in what you can actually do). Mass Effect and KOTOR are RPGs. Some of the best RPGs ever made, buuuut they don't have any spacecraft control. In both games, you have a pilot. You don't get to pilot the ship yourself. There are next to no space encounters and the scale/scope is limited. Even as an RPG, you're pigeon holed into filling a certain role (i.e. "Chosen One"). In Starfield, you can do whatever you want. You don't have to be a chosen one. You can tell Constellation to screw off the moment you meet them and go off and do your own thing. I use the "Take Your Time" mod to disable the journal entry so the game really does become a sandbox RPG.

There really just isn't anything else like Starfield. It's what I've wanted for years!

[LeBurns]

Originally posted by goldbergeri79:

Its also a matter of taste. Not everyone likes scifi RPG but why then complain about it beyond me.

I really enjoyed starfield and soon will start my 2nd big do everything playtrough where i take my time to explore POIs etc. I know i have not seen them all yet so there are new discoveries awaiting for me.

I left outposts and shipbuilding out from 1st playtrough on purpose so i got exciting things to do on 2nd one.

I do focused role-plays. My toons will only join one faction, and generally live in that factions main location, and do all the quests in that area. They'll get companions from that area, etc. Basically kind of live like a real person would. When I'm ready to try something else I roll a new toon (I'll never do NG+ again as that just doesn't make any sense in any role-play I can dream up).

[Jimmi Stixx]

It's clear the bad qualities of Starfield overwhelm it's good qualities. So people have more to say about the bad qualities.

[goldbergeri79]

Originally posted by =CrimsoN=:

It is great fun!! I've wanted something like Starfield since the late 90s and early 2000s. I grew up with stuff like Wing Commander Privateer and Freelancer. But I also love Mass Effect and KOTOR. The one thing missing was combining elements of both games in a way that works well and this is what Starfield is to me. There really isn't anything else like it. There might be some games that do things better, but none that combine space flight with an fully fleshed out RPG on the scale of Starfield.

NMS is cool and all, but it's not an RPG... I don't know what you can call NMS now either. Elite Dangerous has an amazing flight model with a lot of depth, but it's not an RPG and the on-foot sections are pitiful. Star Citizen is a close comparison, but again...not an RPG and the emphasis on multiplayer kills it for me. X4 has a lot that you can do, but its not an RPG and has no real on foot sections (you can walk around in spaces and use an EVA suit, but it's limited in what you can actually do). Mass Effect and KOTOR are RPGs. Some of the best RPGs ever made, buuuut they don't have any spacecraft control. In both games, you have a pilot. You don't get to pilot the ship yourself. There are next to no space encounters and the scale/scope is limited. Even as an RPG, you're pigeon holed into filling a certain role (i.e. "Chosen One"). In Starfield, you can do whatever you want. You don't have to be a chosen one. You can tell Constellation to screw off the moment you meet them and go off and do your own thing. I use the "Take Your Time" mod to disable the journal entry so the game really does become a sandbox RPG.

There really just isn't anything else like Starfield. It's what I've wanted for years! :SF_Constellation:

I do agree on this. Atm starfield is the best and biggest scifi rpg with lot of mechanics no other game has yet put together.
Yeah maybe in single things like elite dangerous flight mechsnics are superior but it lacks other stuf what starfield has.

Outer worlds was ok and i liked it but i wished it was more like starfield. Now im not sure i could play it anymore after experiencing starfield.

There are lot of great games that excell in one thing but starfield got most of them in one game and did pretty ok job implementing them. Jack of all trades but master of none.

[Jimmi Stixx]

The old putting together several mediocre to terrible bits of game play makes the game more fun than it's terrible and mediocre parts.

[=CrimsoN=]

Originally posted by goldbergeri79:

I do agree on this. Atm starfield is the best and biggest scifi rpg with lot of mechanics no other game has yet put together.
Yeah maybe in single things like elite dangerous flight mechsnics are superior but it lacks other stuf what starfield has.

Outer worlds was ok and i liked it but i wished it was more like starfield. Now im not sure i could play it anymore after experiencing starfield.

There are lot of great games that excell in one thing but starfield got most of them in one game and did pretty ok job implementing them. Jack of all trades but master of none.

Exactly! Oh yeah, Outer Worlds is another one. Basically the same as Mass Effect and KOTOR. All great games btw!! But Outer Worlds is a pure RPG. You have a starship, but don't really fly it. There are no activities that involve the actual starship.

You're right too that Starfield is basically a jack of all trades, master of none. But that's okay. Given how there really isn't anything else available lol maybe if something else comes along and dethrones Starfield... but as it stands there really isn't anything and honestly I've wanted Bethesda to do a space game for awhile.

[Vlad 254]

Originally posted by Raphx:

to contradict another post because I think there are enough people who put the game down after more than 100 hours on it or just to reviewbomb
and always the same comments while the game has a lot of qualities

Oh no doubt the game is fun, like some say "great fun".

[minisith]

Originally posted by goldbergeri79:

Originally posted by =CrimsoN=:

It is great fun!! I've wanted something like Starfield since the late 90s and early 2000s. I grew up with stuff like Wing Commander Privateer and Freelancer. But I also love Mass Effect and KOTOR. The one thing missing was combining elements of both games in a way that works well and this is what Starfield is to me. There really isn't anything else like it. There might be some games that do things better, but none that combine space flight with an fully fleshed out RPG on the scale of Starfield.

NMS is cool and all, but it's not an RPG... I don't know what you can call NMS now either. Elite Dangerous has an amazing flight model with a lot of depth, but it's not an RPG and the on-foot sections are pitiful. Star Citizen is a close comparison, but again...not an RPG and the emphasis on multiplayer kills it for me. X4 has a lot that you can do, but its not an RPG and has no real on foot sections (you can walk around in spaces and use an EVA suit, but it's limited in what you can actually do). Mass Effect and KOTOR are RPGs. Some of the best RPGs ever made, buuuut they don't have any spacecraft control. In both games, you have a pilot. You don't get to pilot the ship yourself. There are next to no space encounters and the scale/scope is limited. Even as an RPG, you're pigeon holed into filling a certain role (i.e. "Chosen One"). In Starfield, you can do whatever you want. You don't have to be a chosen one. You can tell Constellation to screw off the moment you meet them and go off and do your own thing. I use the "Take Your Time" mod to disable the journal entry so the game really does become a sandbox RPG.

There really just isn't anything else like Starfield. It's what I've wanted for years! :SF_Constellation:

I do agree on this. Atm starfield is the best and biggest scifi rpg with lot of mechanics no other game has yet put together.
Yeah maybe in single things like elite dangerous flight mechsnics are superior but it lacks other stuf what starfield has.

Outer worlds was ok and i liked it but i wished it was more like starfield. Now im not sure i could play it anymore after experiencing starfield.

There are lot of great games that excell in one thing but starfield got most of them in one game and did pretty ok job implementing them. Jack of all trades but master of none.

I choose not to buy Outer worlders on launch when I seen it was not as open world as Fallout series. I do not like invisible walls. I only hit the walls in this game once so far. That is after 65 hours of playing it.