Starfield
Low Standards 2024년 11월 7일 오전 5시 54분
Anyone buying the Ryzen 9800X3D for Starfield?
It is a beast. Considered the best gaming CPU for the money. I know a lot of people have powerful rigs and upgrade often. Any thoughts?
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Dagtag 2024년 11월 7일 오전 6시 03분 
I was planning on getting a 7800x3d for my new rig, seems like this might change my plans though
Low Standards 2024년 11월 7일 오전 6시 12분 
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I was planning on getting a 7800x3d for my new rig, seems like this might change my plans though

Nice. I only have a AMD Ryzen 7 3700X.
Ravness01 2024년 11월 7일 오전 6시 58분 
I went from a 3700x to a 7800x3d, it's worth it imo. Few things I learned after making that transition though, Asus mobo's are dumpster fire trash, the one I got had bent pins straight out of the box and got quickly replaced with a MSI board.

The other thing that was different is some games, warhammer 40k inquistor martyr as an example, that used to run fine on my 3700x had issues on the 7800x3d in regards to micro stuttering and fps. The solution was to change the cpu core affinity in task manager. The games try to use all cores by default which can cause issues so you have to manually reduce the number of cores it uses and the micro stutters go away.

7800x3d doesn't need liquid cooling, you can get by with fans and heat sink, but you will need a large heat sink if you go that route. Mine just barely fit in my case with 2mm clearance, so something to think about if you upgrade to that cpu as they do run hot.
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Dagtag 2024년 11월 7일 오전 7시 01분 
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I went from a 3700x to a 7800x3d, it's worth it imo. Few things I learned after making that transition though, Asus mobo's are dumpster fire trash, the one I got had bent pins straight out of the box and got quickly replaced with a MSI board.

The other thing that was different is some games, warhammer 40k inquistor martyr as an example, that used to run fine on my 3700x had issues on the 7800x3d in regards to micro stuttering and fps. The solution was to change the cpu core affinity in task manager. The games try to use all cores by default which can cause issues so you have to manually reduce the number of cores it uses and the micro stutters go away.

7800x3d doesn't need liquid cooling, you can get by with fans and heat sink, but you will need a large heat sink if you go that route. Mine just barely fit in my case with 2mm clearance, so something to think about if you upgrade to that cpu as they do run hot.
Oh yeah msi has always been my go-to for motherboards. Every single motherboard i have bought for me and friends were msi’s and i haven’t had an issur with them once.

They may not know how to make laptops that don’t breal after a year, but they sure do know how to make a good motherboard
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HeyYou (차단됨) 2024년 11월 7일 오전 7시 33분 
I am just not a fan of liquid cooling. There really is no need for it, unless you are doing heavy overclocking. A standard air cooler works perfectly, and in a lot of cases, can be actually better at cooling than some of the liquid coolers. Also, there is nothing to go wrong... If a fan fails, you can SEE that it has. If a pump is getting weak, or the coolant disappears to where ever it goes..... there is no indication. You can quickly smoke your proc in such cases. I build gaming machines for a living, (among other things pc related) if the customer doesn't plan to overclock, air coolers are what they get. The folks that tend to do overclocking, also tend to build their own machines. :D
Low Standards 2024년 11월 7일 오전 7시 37분 
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I am just not a fan of liquid cooling. There really is no need for it, unless you are doing heavy overclocking. A standard air cooler works perfectly, and in a lot of cases, can be actually better at cooling than some of the liquid coolers. Also, there is nothing to go wrong... If a fan fails, you can SEE that it has. If a pump is getting weak, or the coolant disappears to where ever it goes..... there is no indication. You can quickly smoke your proc in such cases. I build gaming machines for a living, (among other things pc related) if the customer doesn't plan to overclock, air coolers are what they get. The folks that tend to do overclocking, also tend to build their own machines. :D

Thank you so much for this. I have always felt the same but I think my problem with liquid cooling is the liquid itself. To me, electricity and liquid doesn't go together. LOL! Your explanation is a lot more educated.

Thanks again.
HeyYou (차단됨) 2024년 11월 7일 오전 7시 39분 
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I am just not a fan of liquid cooling. There really is no need for it, unless you are doing heavy overclocking. A standard air cooler works perfectly, and in a lot of cases, can be actually better at cooling than some of the liquid coolers. Also, there is nothing to go wrong... If a fan fails, you can SEE that it has. If a pump is getting weak, or the coolant disappears to where ever it goes..... there is no indication. You can quickly smoke your proc in such cases. I build gaming machines for a living, (among other things pc related) if the customer doesn't plan to overclock, air coolers are what they get. The folks that tend to do overclocking, also tend to build their own machines. :D

Thank you so much for this. I have always felt the same but I think my problem with liquid cooling is the liquid itself. To me, electricity and liquid doesn't go together. LOL! Your explanation is a lot more educated.

Thanks again.
That's an aspect of it as well. :D Somehow, the idea of introducing liquid to delicate electronics just seems like a bad idea. :D
Dagtag 2024년 11월 7일 오전 7시 43분 
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It is a beast. Considered the best gaming CPU for the money. I know a lot of people have powerful rigs and upgrade often. Any thoughts?

Awesome GPU but not for Startrash. Wait for a good game.
If you are going to make an off topic remark, at least write out the correct word…
Low Standards 2024년 11월 7일 오전 7시 51분 
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Thank you so much for this. I have always felt the same but I think my problem with liquid cooling is the liquid itself. To me, electricity and liquid doesn't go together. LOL! Your explanation is a lot more educated.

Thanks again.
That's an aspect of it as well. :D Somehow, the idea of introducing liquid to delicate electronics just seems like a bad idea. :D

I don't keep up with the hardware side anymore, but I should get more educated like you on the topic. I heard one of larger water block companies was having problems with leaks and such recently. I don't know the source of that though.
Dagtag 2024년 11월 7일 오전 7시 52분 
HeyYou님이 먼저 게시:
I am just not a fan of liquid cooling. There really is no need for it, unless you are doing heavy overclocking. A standard air cooler works perfectly, and in a lot of cases, can be actually better at cooling than some of the liquid coolers. Also, there is nothing to go wrong... If a fan fails, you can SEE that it has. If a pump is getting weak, or the coolant disappears to where ever it goes..... there is no indication. You can quickly smoke your proc in such cases. I build gaming machines for a living, (among other things pc related) if the customer doesn't plan to overclock, air coolers are what they get. The folks that tend to do overclocking, also tend to build their own machines. :D
Ive had my liquid cooler for about 3 years now, haven’t had an issue with it yet. It also keeps my cpu below 60 degrees regardless of the workload.

I personally wouldn’t go back to normal coolers
Low Standards 2024년 11월 7일 오전 7시 54분 
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I am just not a fan of liquid cooling. There really is no need for it, unless you are doing heavy overclocking. A standard air cooler works perfectly, and in a lot of cases, can be actually better at cooling than some of the liquid coolers. Also, there is nothing to go wrong... If a fan fails, you can SEE that it has. If a pump is getting weak, or the coolant disappears to where ever it goes..... there is no indication. You can quickly smoke your proc in such cases. I build gaming machines for a living, (among other things pc related) if the customer doesn't plan to overclock, air coolers are what they get. The folks that tend to do overclocking, also tend to build their own machines. :D
Ive had my liquid cooler for about 3 years now, haven’t had an issue with it yet. It also keeps my cpu below 60 degrees regardless of the workload.

I personally wouldn’t go back to normal coolers

I hear you. They are obviously effective or they wouldn't be so popular. You seem to have a nice rig. :-)
Dagtag 2024년 11월 7일 오전 7시 57분 
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Ive had my liquid cooler for about 3 years now, haven’t had an issue with it yet. It also keeps my cpu below 60 degrees regardless of the workload.

I personally wouldn’t go back to normal coolers

I hear you. They are obviously effective or they wouldn't be so popular. You seem to have a nice rig. :-)
Its good enough for now, but i am going to build a new one from scratch by the end of December.

I used to have a 1080ti and a 7700k, upgraded to a 3070 and a 3800x 3 and a half years ago with the tax money i got back. That is around the same time i got my liquid cooler.

The only things i kept from my original rig are my psu, ram and storage devices. And the case obviously
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HeyYou (차단됨) 2024년 11월 7일 오전 8시 11분 
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I hear you. They are obviously effective or they wouldn't be so popular. You seem to have a nice rig. :-)
Its good enough for now, but i am going to build a new one from scratch by the end of December.

I used to have a 1080ti and a 7700k, upgraded to a 3070 and a 3800x 3 and a half years ago with the tax money i got back. That is around the same time i got my liquid cooler.

The only things i kept from my original rig are my psu, ram and storage devices. And the case obviously
I been using the same case for more than 15 years now. :D It's on its fourth or fifth iteration of hardware. Unfortunately though, it is too small for my current cooler, and I can't put one of the side covers on..... Not really a big deal, more of an esthetic thing, than anything else.

Not sure when I will do another build though. The current machine is more than adequate to the task for my needs..... and beth won't be releasing another game for several more years yet..... Which is generally what prompts me to upgrade. If this machine dies though.... (the reason for my last upgrade....) all bets are off, and I will likely replace everything in the machine. Still though, I'll stick with a heatsink/fan combo, as they more than fulfill my needs, and keep my CPU at acceptable temps. (I have a HUGE heatsink at this point.... one fan is all it needs.)
Dagtag 2024년 11월 7일 오전 8시 19분 
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Its good enough for now, but i am going to build a new one from scratch by the end of December.

I used to have a 1080ti and a 7700k, upgraded to a 3070 and a 3800x 3 and a half years ago with the tax money i got back. That is around the same time i got my liquid cooler.

The only things i kept from my original rig are my psu, ram and storage devices. And the case obviously
I been using the same case for more than 15 years now. :D It's on its fourth or fifth iteration of hardware. Unfortunately though, it is too small for my current cooler, and I can't put one of the side covers on..... Not really a big deal, more of an esthetic thing, than anything else.

Not sure when I will do another build though. The current machine is more than adequate to the task for my needs..... and beth won't be releasing another game for several more years yet..... Which is generally what prompts me to upgrade. If this machine dies though.... (the reason for my last upgrade....) all bets are off, and I will likely replace everything in the machine. Still though, I'll stick with a heatsink/fan combo, as they more than fulfill my needs, and keep my CPU at acceptable temps. (I have a HUGE heatsink at this point.... one fan is all it needs.)
I haven't even had a pc for 15 years. I started out with an old medion desktop(definitely not the best purchase i ever made but it got me through high school).

I still have the fractal design case from my original build, it has served me well, but with the addition of the watercooler I had to be creative with the storage holder and kinda broke the case.

but with all the lian li stuff coming out I thought why not, their cases look sooooo slick.

plus, I bought my original desktop as a student, with an actual income i want to go all out with my new rig.
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HeyYou (차단됨) 2024년 11월 7일 오전 9시 02분 
Dagtag님이 먼저 게시:
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I been using the same case for more than 15 years now. :D It's on its fourth or fifth iteration of hardware. Unfortunately though, it is too small for my current cooler, and I can't put one of the side covers on..... Not really a big deal, more of an esthetic thing, than anything else.

Not sure when I will do another build though. The current machine is more than adequate to the task for my needs..... and beth won't be releasing another game for several more years yet..... Which is generally what prompts me to upgrade. If this machine dies though.... (the reason for my last upgrade....) all bets are off, and I will likely replace everything in the machine. Still though, I'll stick with a heatsink/fan combo, as they more than fulfill my needs, and keep my CPU at acceptable temps. (I have a HUGE heatsink at this point.... one fan is all it needs.)
I haven't even had a pc for 15 years. I started out with an old medion desktop(definitely not the best purchase i ever made but it got me through high school).

I still have the fractal design case from my original build, it has served me well, but with the addition of the watercooler I had to be creative with the storage holder and kinda broke the case.

but with all the lian li stuff coming out I thought why not, their cases look sooooo slick.

plus, I bought my original desktop as a student, with an actual income i want to go all out with my new rig.
Yeah, Lian Li does make some cool stuff. We use their cases pretty regularly. The NZXT fellers as well.

I built my first PC back in the early-mid 90s.... A pentium 4, 266mhz, 4 MEG of ram.... (which was considered a lot back then....) A diamond stealth 4mb vid card, and a monster 3d addon card, with an additional 4mb VRAM..... For its time, it was pretty good. :D Ran all my games without a problem. That was back before SATA was a thing, so, I used a PCI raid controller, and SCSI disk drives. :D
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