What features does Starfield have which previous space exploration games don't have?

[Odd fella]

I don't wanna hear things like 3000 varieties of guns. I want bar-raising, boundary-breaking features which have not been previously seen in the space and RPG genre.

[Odd fella]

Originally posted by MCNacho-ナチョ:

not much more like other ones. It's more about Starfield offering more options in a game than others and its singleplayer because not many like multiplayer in such games.

Interesting isn't it. Given the amount of money and development time spent on this, we thought Starfield was gonna leapfrog into the next generation of gaming.

[Sikklid]

Its basically a glorified crafting game, which is also busted in many cases such as with ship door/ladder placement. Nothing else really worth your time - since BGS cut everything out to sell as MTXs.

[Odd fella]

Originally posted by MCNacho-ナチョ:

Originally posted by Odd fella:

Interesting isn't it. Given the amount of money and development time spent on this, we thought Starfield was gonna leapfrog into the next generation of gaming.

I don't know what you mean, but Bethesda did everything right here. In Starfield you have a lot to discover, which offers something for many players.

Well if we take GTA 3, COD 4, or RDR 2 for example, with their higher budgets and longer development times, these games leapfrogged gaming into the next generation. Starfield seems to have just added more options than its predecessors and regressed in some areas, such as loading screens in a space game.

[Tommy Wiseau]

AHAHAH AHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAH SF has nothing like that. Its got empty planets and loading screens thats literally it. Almost no aliens, minimal weapons, weapon crafting and combat system is just fallout 4, you can build your own ship but theres really no point to flying around and the ship battles are bad.

[Odd fella]

Originally posted by MCNacho-ナチョ:

Originally posted by Odd fella:

Well if we take GTA 3, COD 4, or RDR 2 for example, with their higher budgets and longer development times, these games leapfrogged gaming into the next generation. Starfield seems to have just added more options than its predecessors and regressed in some areas, such as loading screens in a space game.

rdr2 yes the other 2 no

With the other two it's simply marketing and appealing to target groups, so these games are always popular. For me it was over after COD 4 because it was just too explosive for me and there was more shooting than tactics like in the first ones.

gta is the same every time. Gutter work your way up, get money and you are the player.

I'm not talking our subjective experiences with these games, I'm just giving examples of games which leapfrogged gaming into new areas we hadn't seen before. And that this was a result of their higher budget and development time compared to predecessors. So we have to ask ourselves why Starfield didn't leapfrog gaming despite all the advantages it had.

[Odd fella]

Originally posted by MCNacho-ナチョ:

Originally posted by Odd fella:

I'm not talking our subjective experiences with these games, I'm just giving examples of games which leapfrogged gaming into new areas we hadn't seen before. And that this was a result of their higher budget and development time compared to predecessors. So we have to ask ourselves why Starfield didn't leapfrog gaming despite all the advantages it had.

it has it. just a lot of people play it on gamepass or xbox because theoretically it's cheaper.

Starfield has not leapfrogged gaming unfortunately, unless you can name a few features which havent been seen before. We dont know how many are playing on Xbox or Gamepass on average.

[Darth Revan]

Originally posted by Odd fella:

Originally posted by MCNacho-ナチョ:

I don't know what you mean, but Bethesda did everything right here. In Starfield you have a lot to discover, which offers something for many players.

Well if we take GTA 3, COD 4, or RDR 2 for example, with their higher budgets and longer development times, these games leapfrogged gaming into the next generation. Starfield seems to have just added more options than its predecessors and regressed in some areas, such as loading screens in a space game.

starfield is not that much of a space game, its more like a mass effect type of game with some extended space gameplay, the big mistake people are making and already were making before starfield released is to expect something like X4 but with the addition of ground gameplay from a bethesda game.

the main focus is the ground gameplay, it always was going to be the ground gameplay, not the space gameplay.

[Darth Revan]

Originally posted by Odd fella:

Originally posted by MCNacho-ナチョ:

it has it. just a lot of people play it on gamepass or xbox because theoretically it's cheaper.

Starfield has not leapfrogged gaming unfortunately, unless you can name a few features which havent been seen before. We dont know how many are playing on Xbox or Gamepass on average.

we dont know how much are playing on gamepass/xbox now, but whe have official statements that claim that up unitl now starfield has been played by over 14 million players and if you look at the steam charts it becomes very obviouse that the vast majority of those were playing on gamepass/xbox

[gingerbreadman]

I think that your entire premise for hating on the game is based on a flawed thought.

Starfield isn’t a space game, its a game with its setting in space, thats like calling jedi survivor a space game…

[Vlad 254]

Originally posted by MCNacho-ナチョ:

Originally posted by Odd fella:

Interesting isn't it. Given the amount of money and development time spent on this, we thought Starfield was gonna leapfrog into the next generation of gaming.

I don't know what you mean, but Bethesda did everything right here. In Starfield you have a lot to discover, which offers something for many players.

I have to agree with this statement but it's not for impatient gamers, if anything it might not be for most kids. Probably explains a lot.

[Odd fella]

Originally posted by Darth Revan:

Originally posted by Odd fella:

Well if we take GTA 3, COD 4, or RDR 2 for example, with their higher budgets and longer development times, these games leapfrogged gaming into the next generation. Starfield seems to have just added more options than its predecessors and regressed in some areas, such as loading screens in a space game.

starfield is not that much of a space game, its more like a mass effect type of game with some extended space gameplay, the big mistake people are making and already were making before starfield released is to expect something like X4 but with the addition of ground gameplay from a bethesda game.

the main focus is the ground gameplay, it always was going to be the ground gameplay, not the space gameplay.

Which is very dissapointing because this game should've pushed the boundaries and done both, becoming a fully fledged space game. Not just do what indies have done but with better graphics.

Originally posted by Darth Revan:

Originally posted by Odd fella:

Starfield has not leapfrogged gaming unfortunately, unless you can name a few features which havent been seen before. We dont know how many are playing on Xbox or Gamepass on average.

we dont know how much are playing on gamepass/xbox now, but whe have official statements that claim that up unitl now starfield has been played by over 14 million players and if you look at the steam charts it becomes very obviouse that the vast majority of those were playing on gamepass/xbox

Sounds very impressive doesnt it. But that's literally just it, 14 million people have played Starfield. What matters most is the retention as games that have had this investment are meant to be evergreen, allowing for greater profits as they can just pump DLC. Plus these numbers come from BGS which is an unreliable source.

[gingerbreadman]

Originally posted by Odd fella:

Originally posted by Darth Revan:

starfield is not that much of a space game, its more like a mass effect type of game with some extended space gameplay, the big mistake people are making and already were making before starfield released is to expect something like X4 but with the addition of ground gameplay from a bethesda game.

the main focus is the ground gameplay, it always was going to be the ground gameplay, not the space gameplay.

Which is very dissapointing because this game should've pushed the boundaries and done both, becoming a fully fledged space game. Not just do what indies have done but with better graphics.

Originally posted by Darth Revan:

we dont know how much are playing on gamepass/xbox now, but whe have official statements that claim that up unitl now starfield has been played by over 14 million players and if you look at the steam charts it becomes very obviouse that the vast majority of those were playing on gamepass/xbox

Sounds very impressive doesnt it. But that's literally just it, 14 million people have played Starfield. What matters most is the retention as games that have had this investment are meant to be evergreen, allowing for greater profits as they can just pump DLC. Plus these numbers come from BGS which is an unreliable source.

This game should have done no such thing…. Not every game needs to be a tech demo for the future of gaming,

Let games be games, let game designers choose how to make their games.

Learn to do research, and when a game doesn’t seem for you, leave it and let go. Move on to something else, focusing on it like you are now really isn’t healthy

[Hexagoros]

Originally posted by Sikklid:

Its basically a glorified crafting game, which is also busted in many cases such as with ship door/ladder placement. Nothing else really worth your time - since BGS cut everything out to sell as MTXs.

Very much this.

To the OP, if you're looking for a game about space exploration, this ain't it. There is no flying through space in this game. None. You fact travel from planet to planet, and can fly your ship around in a very limited area in the planet's immediate orbit. That's it.

[Odd fella]

Originally posted by Gingerbreadman:

Originally posted by Odd fella:

Which is very dissapointing because this game should've pushed the boundaries and done both, becoming a fully fledged space game. Not just do what indies have done but with better graphics.





Sounds very impressive doesnt it. But that's literally just it, 14 million people have played Starfield. What matters most is the retention as games that have had this investment are meant to be evergreen, allowing for greater profits as they can just pump DLC. Plus these numbers come from BGS which is an unreliable source.

This game should have done no such thing…. Not every game needs to be a tech demo for the future of gaming,

Let games be games, let game designers choose how to make their games.

Learn to do research, and when a game doesn’t seem for you, leave it and let go. Move on to something else, focusing on it like you are now really isn’t healthy

I was excited for this game but, like others, became very disapointed that it is just an overdeveloped indie space game. To settle for this is crazy, we would never have new experiences in games if all new AAA releases were just the same as previous indie releases, with some features missing.

[gingerbreadman]

Originally posted by Odd fella:

Originally posted by Gingerbreadman:

This game should have done no such thing…. Not every game needs to be a tech demo for the future of gaming,

Let games be games, let game designers choose how to make their games.

Learn to do research, and when a game doesn’t seem for you, leave it and let go. Move on to something else, focusing on it like you are now really isn’t healthy

I was excited for this game but, like others, became very disapointed that it is just an overdeveloped indie space game. To settle for this is crazy, we would never have new experiences in games if all new AAA releases were just the same as previous indie releases, with some features missing.

You see, you aren’t making a lot of sense. You say you were excited about this game, but didn’t like the game.

Is it safe to say that you made some assumptions regarding what the game would be, and were disappointed because you didn’t look into it enough?