It Was Worth It

[NANO]

I spent 11 dollars to try Starfield on Game Pass and actually- it was worth it.

I was angry at first, but when the nice black man appeared to enthusiastically gift me (a complete stranger) his ship after my long career in mining (3 minutes) I couldn't stop laughing at how dumb the entire situation was.

It just got dumber, and dumber, and dumber as time went on. To the point where It was dark yet endearing almost, like a Tommy Wiseau film. I actually started to think not only the premise but the entire game itself- was a practical joke.

I mean this not as an insult, but I genuinely find it hilarious that people enjoyed this game as if it was a legitimate work of art. Like those people that cried at the end of The Room lol

[gingerbreadman]

Bad bait is bad

[Anticitizen 1]

The Room is actually a really good comparison to the "story" in Shartfield.

[Joseph The Space Nord]

So you must HATE Skyrim and Fallout 4 if the writing is your problem.

[Joseph The Space Nord]

Also after checking your account you have 20 reviews for games and only 3 of them are positive. Do you like anything or are you just a cynical person?

[restarter]

Originally posted by Joseph The Space Nord:

So you must HATE Skyrim and Fallout 4 if the writing is your problem.

yeah I've never really understood that whole "meh the story is bad"
uhh yeah all Bethesda games have bad stories lol. We don't play these games for their story , we make up our own. I mean the entire FO4 thing falls apart when you're supposed to be rushing to a goal but spend 600 hours doing all kinds of side quests.

[Mick Savage]

Yup great post.

And veterans who've played hundreds of games can spot things. Everything about this game feels rushed, half baked, not thought out or they just didn't care enough. It's why I call it a cash grab, then when I saw their plan for mods I knew it was true.

But as for the game itself, it's hard to put into words when everything is just blah. Kinda like what you said, it just gets more boring as time goes on.

Then add all the little bugs and stupid things the game does, many not game breaking, but annoying as hell. The lip sync and dialogue issues bugged me the most haha

I think this might be another NMS but word in around the modding scene is nobody is particularly interested in modding Starfield. So I guess we wait and see.

[Vlad 254]

Originally posted by Joseph The Space Nord:

Also after checking your account you have 20 reviews for games and only 3 of them are positive. Do you like anything or are you just a cynical person?

Originally posted by restarter:

Originally posted by Joseph The Space Nord:

So you must HATE Skyrim and Fallout 4 if the writing is your problem.

yeah I've never really understood that whole "meh the story is bad"
uhh yeah all Bethesda games have bad stories lol. We don't play these games for their story , we make up our own. I mean the entire FO4 thing falls apart when you're supposed to be rushing to a goal but spend 600 hours doing all kinds of side quests.

Exactly. Matter of fact Funny thing is you can tell those that naysay never play video games be it this or other games, they are here all day every day naysaying in these forums so how can they. Yeah i think we know what they are about.

[Cutlass Jack]

I paid nothing to open this thread. I still want a refund.

[Krash Megiddo]

Yawn. Predicable troll flimflammery. I wish they would get some new material

[ac566]

Originally posted by restarter:

Originally posted by Joseph The Space Nord:

So you must HATE Skyrim and Fallout 4 if the writing is your problem.

yeah I've never really understood that whole "meh the story is bad"
uhh yeah all Bethesda games have bad stories lol. We don't play these games for their story , we make up our own. I mean the entire FO4 thing falls apart when you're supposed to be rushing to a goal but spend 600 hours doing all kinds of side quests.

Not all bethesda games had bad writing. Oblivion and Morrowind were pretty decent. Writing took a complete nosedive with Fallout 3. Fallout 4 and Skyrim were strict downgrades compared to their predecessors.

Worse factions, worse main questlines, and worse side content. There has been a clear decline in quality of content, and an increasing shallowness of mechanics.

When people complain about writing they aren't asking for a movie-like experience like TLOU or something, What they want is competent stories and side quests that immerse them into the game. Shoving the main story into peoples faces is also not what's needed. Just a reason to actually care about the main quest because it's trying to tell an interesting story, is all that's needed.

At this point most of Bethesda's quest design feels like MMO daily quests that have nothing interesting to say. None of Skyrim's factions were even remotely interesting or compelling, Fallout 4's factions were nonsensical and downright idiotic. Admittedly factions in Starfield are somewhat better since they're more grounded as you're no longer faction leader after doing 3 quests, but they are milk-toast plain and toothless.

It's fine that some quests are just mindless grunt work, but what makes RPGs good is when the quests give you choices which have meaningful impact on the game world and the characters within. The difference between doing all the quests and becoming a lvl 200 master-of-all in starfield and doing absolutely nothing is a few bark comments from guards (not unlike skyrim). And when you are that lvl 200 and you complete the main quest, it's all wiped away for you to repeat endlessly, further driving home the pointlessness of your actions.

If Bethesda managed to hire more than a SINGLE writer (out of the "thousands" of people who worked on the game), for a game as big as Starfield, we may have been able to have our cake and eat it too.

Look at BG3 and tell me you wouldn't want quests/stories like that in starfield or skyrim, even if you avoid them like usual, and I'll say you're lying.

[arador]

actually, i think bethesda stories are really good but just on the surface. they have a problem with storytelling, not story.
some junk that plays music and makes me see hallucinations in the deeper space could make me wonder but like you said, when some dude gifts me his ship it gets funny .d
i really like reading elder scrolls lore, wondering what really happened to dwemer but when i play skyrim all i can see is an angry karen who wants me to kill my best bud and threatens me even if she was sworn to serve me and she does it with no reason at all.

[katzenkrimis]

Originally posted by Mick Salvage:

It's hard to put into words when everything is just blah.

You don't seem to have any problems finding words.

You are here every single day, babbling on about how crappy this game is.

Move on with your life. Hang around forums of games that you enjoy.

You don't see me hanging around Larian's forum, posting about how crappy my Third Gate experience was.

[76561198013077829]

Originally posted by Joseph The Space Nord:

So you must HATE Skyrim and Fallout 4 if the writing is your problem.

FO4 has terrible storyline while skyrims is just boring, red vs blue. although skyrim was supposed to have a much more involved main story with consequences that would change the cities and factions in meaningful ways but was cut due to time constraints. heres an interesting read for anyone who wants to see the full vision for it: https://tcrf.net/The_Elder_Scrolls_V:_Skyrim/Civil_War

[Vlad 254]

Originally posted by Cutlass Jack:

I paid nothing to open this thread. I still want a refund.

Originally posted by Krash Megiddo:

Yawn. Predicable troll flimflammery. I wish they would get some new material

Exactly,

[NANO]

Originally posted by Joseph The Space Nord:

Also after checking your account you have 20 reviews for games and only 3 of them are positive. Do you like anything or are you just a cynical person?

I have taste.

I have standards.