starfield steamdb rating updates

[major tom]

updates on steamdb indicate still the same trend.

incoming reviews are still more negative than positive!
last rating number is updated down to 59,00%
(current cyberpunk rating 81.24%)

you can easily prove for yourself that the presented rating is up to date by comparing with the reviews you see under the "Reviews" tab here on steam.

one thing: please help that this thread gets not locked down for any reasons. thanks.
the purpose is to keep the forum up to date. feel free to add any steamdb rating changes.
https://steamdb.info/app/1716740/charts/


my last edit: thank you valve to not lock this topic all the time. the last two days were so cringy and odd for me - like the game starfield itself somehow - a wild ride.

i am happy for the opportunity to leave this topic in peace and be able to say some words.
i will just add rating changes if i see one.

the topic was meant for information and friendly discussons and nothing else - this sadly never took place since day one. from my side: close this topic it failed miserably for this game. starfield deserves not the way it is represented here. do whatever you want with this topic. no more words from my side and thank you to all who tried to be respectful, friendly and focused.

[Mick Savage]

Publicado originalmente por Lonetac:

Publicado originalmente por major tom:

all people i know tell me the same as most recent reviews show. all in all starfield is a boring and bland game, a major let down compared to what was expected and advertised.

Can you elaborate on what was advertised that isnt in the game? Please quote your source and not "trust me bro". I want to see advertisements that show something that isnt in the game.

Expectations, well thats on you. Some folks expected this to be a flight space sim somehow, nothing you can do with folks who cant temper their own expectations.

The whole todd lied thing and starfield isnt what it was advertised argument always falls flat, they didnt lie about anything and if they did, prove it. You cant. We know you cant. It gets asked all the time and nobody can do it.

What happened is you had expectations for the game that were not met and you dont like it. I cant help you with the first thing being setting expectations, you will have to work on that. Not liking the game is a fair argument but dont twist it into some false advertising baloney.

Well if we can't agree on what exploration is then how can anyone "prove" it?!

It's pretty much common sense that exploration should show the player a map of where they've been and be able to go back and forth, but we can't do that in SF.

Todd lied about exploration and space flight, it literally does NOT exist in SF ...lol

[Lonetac]

Publicado originalmente por Mick Salvage:

Publicado originalmente por Lonetac:

Can you elaborate on what was advertised that isnt in the game? Please quote your source and not "trust me bro". I want to see advertisements that show something that isnt in the game.

Expectations, well thats on you. Some folks expected this to be a flight space sim somehow, nothing you can do with folks who cant temper their own expectations.

The whole todd lied thing and starfield isnt what it was advertised argument always falls flat, they didnt lie about anything and if they did, prove it. You cant. We know you cant. It gets asked all the time and nobody can do it.

What happened is you had expectations for the game that were not met and you dont like it. I cant help you with the first thing being setting expectations, you will have to work on that. Not liking the game is a fair argument but dont twist it into some false advertising baloney.

Well if we can't agree on what exploration is then how can anyone "prove" it?!

It's pretty much common sense that exploration should show the player a map of where they've been and be able to go back and forth, but we can't do that in SF.

Todd lied about exploration and space flight, it literally does NOT exist in SF ...lol

You can explore any planet. Do you know what the word explore means or being intentionally obtuse for the sake of argument?

If you are denying that you cant explore every planet then you are either not playing this game or just lying for the sake of creating argument.

Whether you like exploring the planets or not is irrelevant.

[Mick Savage]

Publicado originalmente por Lonetac:

Publicado originalmente por Mick Salvage:

Well if we can't agree on what exploration is then how can anyone "prove" it?!

It's pretty much common sense that exploration should show the player a map of where they've been and be able to go back and forth, but we can't do that in SF.

Todd lied about exploration and space flight, it literally does NOT exist in SF ...lol

You can explore any planet. Do you know what the word explore means or being intentionally obtuse for the sake of argument?

If you are denying that you cant explore every planet then you are either not playing this game or just lying for the sake of creating argument.

Whether you like exploring the planets or not is irrelevant.

We cannot explore every planet, not even close LOL

It's a single tile that gets regenerated in-between loading screens and there's no map showing where we've been because it all gets randomly generated each and every time.

Not exploration haha!

[Dagtag]

Publicado originalmente por Mick Salvage:

Publicado originalmente por Lonetac:

Can you elaborate on what was advertised that isnt in the game? Please quote your source and not "trust me bro". I want to see advertisements that show something that isnt in the game.

Expectations, well thats on you. Some folks expected this to be a flight space sim somehow, nothing you can do with folks who cant temper their own expectations.

The whole todd lied thing and starfield isnt what it was advertised argument always falls flat, they didnt lie about anything and if they did, prove it. You cant. We know you cant. It gets asked all the time and nobody can do it.

What happened is you had expectations for the game that were not met and you dont like it. I cant help you with the first thing being setting expectations, you will have to work on that. Not liking the game is a fair argument but dont twist it into some false advertising baloney.

Well if we can't agree on what exploration is then how can anyone "prove" it?!

It's pretty much common sense that exploration should show the player a map of where they've been and be able to go back and forth, but we can't do that in SF.

What? No… this isn’t “common sense”…

So according to you there is no exploration in dark souls? Subnautica? Uncharted? The last of us?

There are so many games with exploration that do NOT have a map…

Todd lied about exploration and space flight, it literally does NOT exist in SF ...lol

We have already established that you have a strange definition for exploration…

As for the space flight, have you not played starfield? You can quite literally fly your ship in space.

[Dagtag]

Publicado originalmente por Mick Salvage:

Publicado originalmente por Lonetac:

You can explore any planet. Do you know what the word explore means or being intentionally obtuse for the sake of argument?

If you are denying that you cant explore every planet then you are either not playing this game or just lying for the sake of creating argument.

Whether you like exploring the planets or not is irrelevant.

We cannot explore every planet, not even close LOL

But you can…

It's a single tile that gets regenerated in-between loading screens

The approach is irrelevant

and there's no map showing where we've been because it all gets randomly generated each and every time.

a map is irrelevant…

Not exploration haha!

Yet there is…

[Mick Savage]

Publicado originalmente por Dagtag:

Publicado originalmente por Mick Salvage:

Well if we can't agree on what exploration is then how can anyone "prove" it?!

It's pretty much common sense that exploration should show the player a map of where they've been and be able to go back and forth, but we can't do that in SF.

What? No… this isn’t “common sense”…

So according to you there is no exploration in dark souls? Subnautica? Uncharted? The last of us?

There are so many games with exploration that do NOT have a map…

Todd lied about exploration and space flight, it literally does NOT exist in SF ...lol

We have already established that you have a strange definition for exploration…

As for the space flight, have you not played starfield? You can quite literally fly your ship in space.

No you can't fly, players simply pick a POI or planet and like magic we're there LOL

All random each and every time, not exploration.

[Lonetac]

Publicado originalmente por Mick Salvage:

Publicado originalmente por Lonetac:

You can explore any planet. Do you know what the word explore means or being intentionally obtuse for the sake of argument?

If you are denying that you cant explore every planet then you are either not playing this game or just lying for the sake of creating argument.

Whether you like exploring the planets or not is irrelevant.

We cannot explore every planet, not even close LOL

It's a single tile that gets regenerated in-between loading screens and there's no map showing where we've been because it all gets randomly generated each and every time.

Not exploration haha!

you can explore every planet. Lying about this doesnt improve your argument.

Anyone can go to any planet and choose their landing location and go explore it.

LOLOLOLOL

[Lonetac]

Publicado originalmente por Mick Salvage:

Publicado originalmente por Dagtag:

What? No… this isn’t “common sense”…

So according to you there is no exploration in dark souls? Subnautica? Uncharted? The last of us?

There are so many games with exploration that do NOT have a map…


We have already established that you have a strange definition for exploration…

As for the space flight, have you not played starfield? You can quite literally fly your ship in space.

No you can't fly, players simply pick a POI or planet and like magic we're there LOL

All random each and every time, not exploration.

You can literally fly your spaceship in space

LOL!

[Mick Savage]

Publicado originalmente por Lonetac:

Publicado originalmente por Mick Salvage:

We cannot explore every planet, not even close LOL

It's a single tile that gets regenerated in-between loading screens and there's no map showing where we've been because it all gets randomly generated each and every time.

Not exploration haha!

you can explore every planet. Lying about this doesnt improve your argument.

Anyone can go to any planet and choose their landing location and go explore it.

LOLOLOLOL

Nope its a randomly regnerated tile and its never the same.
Thus no planet and no exploration, Todd lied again LOL

[Lonetac]

Publicado originalmente por Mick Salvage:

Publicado originalmente por Lonetac:

you can explore every planet. Lying about this doesnt improve your argument.

Anyone can go to any planet and choose their landing location and go explore it.

LOLOLOLOL

Nope its a randomly regnerated tile and its never the same.
Thus no planet and no exploration, Todd lied again LOL

randomly generated content can still be explored, thats not a lie. You are lying about what exploring means.

LOL!

[Dagtag]

Publicado originalmente por Mick Salvage:

Publicado originalmente por Dagtag:

What? No… this isn’t “common sense”…

So according to you there is no exploration in dark souls? Subnautica? Uncharted? The last of us?

There are so many games with exploration that do NOT have a map…


We have already established that you have a strange definition for exploration…

As for the space flight, have you not played starfield? You can quite literally fly your ship in space.

No you can't fly, players simply pick a POI or planet and like magic we're there LOL

You can also take off to space, in which you can fly, and have space combat. It is the entirez reason the ship builder exists…

Someone choosing not to fly isn’t the same as there being no flying.

All random each and every time, not exploration.

Okay since you insist on being obtuse…. When a tile gets generated and you are currently walking around in that tile, visiting points of interest, is it safe to say that you are EXPLORING that tile?

[Mick Savage]

Publicado originalmente por Lonetac:

Publicado originalmente por Mick Salvage:

Nope its a randomly regnerated tile and its never the same.
Thus no planet and no exploration, Todd lied again LOL

randomly generated content can still be explored, thats not a lie. You are lying about what exploring means.

LOL!

No that's not true at all LOLOL

I see a hill in the distance, I try to go there but hit an invisable wall, I jump in my ship and try to fly there, can't because the tile just got regenerated haha!!

No exploration, Todd lied. :(

[Mick Savage]

Publicado originalmente por Dagtag:

Publicado originalmente por Mick Salvage:

No you can't fly, players simply pick a POI or planet and like magic we're there LOL

You can also take off to space, in which you can fly, and have space combat. It is the entirez reason the ship builder exists…

Someone choosing not to fly isn’t the same as there being no flying.

All random each and every time, not exploration.

Okay since you insist on being obtuse…. When a tile gets generated and you are currently walking around in that tile, visiting points of interest, is it safe to say that you are EXPLORING that tile?

Todd said explore planets, not tiles LOL

[Dagtag]

Publicado originalmente por Mick Salvage:

Publicado originalmente por Lonetac:

randomly generated content can still be explored, thats not a lie. You are lying about what exploring means.

LOL!

No that's not true at all LOLOL

I see a hill in the distance, I try to go there but hit an invisable wall, I jump in my ship and try to fly there, can't because the tile just got regenerated haha!!

No exploration, Todd lied. :(

Wait, did you just say that not being able to explore beyond the bounds = no exploration?

So according to you the witcher 3 isn’t an exploration game? Are you really prepared to die on that hill?

[Lonetac]

Publicado originalmente por Mick Salvage:

Publicado originalmente por Lonetac:

randomly generated content can still be explored, thats not a lie. You are lying about what exploring means.

LOL!

No that's not true at all LOLOL

I see a hill in the distance, I try to go there but hit an invisable wall, I jump in my ship and try to fly there, can't because the tile just got regenerated haha!!

No exploration, Todd lied. :(

Thats not the definition of "no exploration". The fact you are on the world walking around constitutes exploration.

You would lose this argument in any critical thinking class or any court in the world. You have no argument other than reactional emotional response.

You scream desperation to be right on something you are dying alone on a hill about. You are not fooling anyone bud.