what the hell bethesda

[lord goatle the wise]

is this really the best your studio can do with a $400M budget? what did all that money go into because it sure as ♥♥♥♥ wasn't engine building, writing, testing or developing content. Starting to think the entirety of this budget went into marketing and you just let your interns take a swing at making a game with chatGPT

jfc if this game doesn't result in a company restructure I have 0 confidence in any future titles from your studio

[PrahanaHazGutz]

Because your confidence means -- basically --- zip.

[Groogo]

Originally posted by lord goatle the wise:

is this really the best your studio can do with a $400M budget? what did all that money go into because it sure as ♥♥♥♥ wasn't engine building, writing, testing or developing content. Starting to think the entirety of this budget went into marketing and you just let your interns take a swing at making a game with chatGPT

jfc if this game doesn't result in a company restructure I have 0 confidence in any future titles from your studio

We know what you mean.

[MonkeyGamesVR]

🆗 bye 😁

[katzenkrimis]

Originally posted by lord goatle the wise:

Making a game with chatGPT

And you still purchased it.

If you were smart, and if what you said was true, you could have watched a YouTube playthrough and picked out those issues in a hurry.

Video game critiquing is definitely not your thing. Time for a new hobby.

Try chewing plastic balloons, or cactus diving.

[Jᴧgᴧ]

Originally posted by lord goatle the wise:

jfc if this game doesn't result in a company restructure I have 0 confidence in any future titles from your studio

It already did - Zenimax and all their subsidiaries (including Bethesda Softworks) was purchased by Microsoft for 7.5 billion. That's about as big a restructure as you can get from a managerial perspective. And it happened ~1 year prior to release, and we still got what we got. It was a brilliant move by whomever owned Zenimax at the time - realizing their studios weren't really generating the same level of interest or cash flow they used to, and that the new IP wasn't looking like what the community was expecting.

Changing management (direction) for the game didn't seem to help. Putting a new female lead in charge of Zenimax hasn't helped (basically zero PR communication from her about Bethesda/Zenimax or Starfield). The only things that've remained the same are 1) The current quality of Bethesda releases is still poor, and 2) They remain deaf, dumb and blind to what the community is saying about their games, unless it's a 10/10 review (in which case they re-post it with glee).

I think the only future restructure that might come about from this, is Zenimax's (or just Bethesda's) re-re-sale to another party, or maybe just the sale of specific IPs (like the Fallout IP to a company like Obsidian). Right now Zenimax is a big, deep, red entry in the ledger for Microsoft without much to show for it.

Be prepared to be hounded by the remaining defenders on the forums.

[lord goatle the wise]

Originally posted by Jᴧgᴧ:

Originally posted by lord goatle the wise:

jfc if this game doesn't result in a company restructure I have 0 confidence in any future titles from your studio

It already did - Zenimax and all their subsidiaries (including Bethesda Softworks) was purchased by Microsoft for 7.5 billion. That's about as big a restructure as you can get from a managerial perspective. And it happened ~1 year prior to release, and we still got what we got. It was a brilliant move by whomever owned Zenimax at the time - realizing their studios weren't really generating the same level of interest or cash flow they used to, and that the new IP wasn't looking like what the community was expecting.

Changing management (direction) for the game didn't seem to help. Putting a new female lead in charge of Zenimax hasn't helped (basically zero PR communication from her about Bethesda/Zenimax or Starfield). The only things that've remained the same are 1) The current quality of Bethesda releases is still poor, and 2) They remain deaf, dumb and blind to what the community is saying about their games, unless it's a 10/10 review (in which case they re-post it with glee).

I think the only future restructure that might come about from this, is Zenimax's (or just Bethesda's) re-re-sale to another party, or maybe just the sale of specific IPs (like the Fallout IP to a company like Obsidian). Right now Zenimax is a big, deep, red entry in the ledger for Microsoft without much to show for it.

Be prepared to be hounded by the remaining defenders on the forums.

fair point

worst deal in the history of all trade deals for microsoft

[LostME]

Originally posted by katzenkrimis:

Originally posted by lord goatle the wise:

Making a game with chatGPT

And you still purchased it.

If you were smart, and if what you said was true, you could have watched a YouTube playthrough and picked out those issues in a hurry.

Video game critiquing is definitely not your thing. Time for a new hobby.

Try chewing plastic balloons, or cactus diving.

In the old days I bought me andromeda. Wow, that's mass effect! After 6 hours of disappoint I couldn't make a refund =(

[Bodybag]

Man , you guys have a buyers regret for an insane amount of time :)

[LostME]

Originally posted by Bodybag:

Man , you guys have a buyers regret for an insane amount of time :)

Yep, I spent 40-50 hours on trashfield =( Thanks God it's was for free XD Andromeda give me the lesson =)

[Bodybag]

Originally posted by LostME:

Originally posted by Bodybag:

Man , you guys have a buyers regret for an insane amount of time :)

Yep, I spent 40-50 hours on trashfield =( Thanks God it's was for free XD Andromeda give me the lesson =)

I am sorry that Andromeda has caused you so much emotional pain and financial suffering.

[LostME]

Originally posted by Bodybag:

Originally posted by LostME:

Yep, I spent 40-50 hours on trashfield =( Thanks God it's was for free XD Andromeda give me the lesson =)

I am sorry that Andromeda has caused you so much emotional pain and financial suffering.

When people ruin one of favorite franchises, it certainly hurts. Moreover, because of them we haven’t get new ME games for many years.

[CurrySpirals]

Originally posted by Jᴧgᴧ:

Originally posted by lord goatle the wise:

jfc if this game doesn't result in a company restructure I have 0 confidence in any future titles from your studio

It already did - Zenimax and all their subsidiaries (including Bethesda Softworks) was purchased by Microsoft for 7.5 billion. That's about as big a restructure as you can get from a managerial perspective. And it happened ~1 year prior to release, and we still got what we got. It was a brilliant move by whomever owned Zenimax at the time - realizing their studios weren't really generating the same level of interest or cash flow they used to, and that the new IP wasn't looking like what the community was expecting.

Changing management (direction) for the game didn't seem to help. Putting a new female lead in charge of Zenimax hasn't helped (basically zero PR communication from her about Bethesda/Zenimax or Starfield). The only things that've remained the same are 1) The current quality of Bethesda releases is still poor, and 2) They remain deaf, dumb and blind to what the community is saying about their games, unless it's a 10/10 review (in which case they re-post it with glee).

I think the only future restructure that might come about from this, is Zenimax's (or just Bethesda's) re-re-sale to another party, or maybe just the sale of specific IPs (like the Fallout IP to a company like Obsidian). Right now Zenimax is a big, deep, red entry in the ledger for Microsoft without much to show for it.

Be prepared to be hounded by the remaining defenders on the forums.

Microsoft also owns Obsidian, so they aren’t going to buy the Fallout IP.

[Bodybag]

Originally posted by LostME:

Originally posted by Bodybag:

I am sorry that Andromeda has caused you so much emotional pain and financial suffering.

When people ruin one of favorite franchises, it certainly hurts. Moreover, because of them we haven’t get new ME games for many years.

Try listening to some self help e-books. Or better even try reading them. I am sure with many years of reflection and looking for inner happiness , you will be able to move on.
All the best!

[LostME]

Originally posted by Bodybag:

Originally posted by LostME:

When people ruin one of favorite franchises, it certainly hurts. Moreover, because of them we haven’t get new ME games for many years.

Try listening to some self help e-books. Or better even try reading them. I am sure with many years of reflection and looking for inner happiness , you will be able to move on.
All the best!

Pretty funny. I just wanna say. The lesson were good. Try it on a gamepass or torrent and then buy. We don’t know how many stafield refounds were made.

And firstly I told about "And you still purchased it.".

[Bodybag]

Originally posted by LostME:

Originally posted by Bodybag:

Try listening to some self help e-books. Or better even try reading them. I am sure with many years of reflection and looking for inner happiness , you will be able to move on.
All the best!

Pretty funny. I just wanna say. The lesson were good. Try it on a gamepass or torrent and then buy. We don’t know how many stafield refounds were made.

actually get a dictionary first :)