Bethesda is next

[peppergomez]

If they don't succeed w ES6 then M$ is going to close them down. IMO that wouldn't be much of a loss if ES6 continues their trend of releasing disappointing mediocre games.

[PrahanaHazGutz]

Originally posted by Wade Rocketowsky:

Originally posted by Goof:

it depends on when fallout 5 comes out. its the most popular show on the planet right now, if they can release another one quickly

Quickly? Seriously? It took Bethesda 10 years to make Starfield, which feels like an indie game made by a small team of a few people, and you think they'll make a new quality Fallout game within half a year - a year, so they can ride the hype? LOL If they make a new Fallout by 2037 I will be very surprised.

I think drawing presumptive conclusions is a waste of time and effort. That's what I think

[patrick68794]

Originally posted by Don_Salvatore:

How we started

Originally posted by Starbug:

Nah, those are two of the biggest IP's in gaming. Not sure why you'd think that. Goes contrary to common sense.

Where we are now

Originally posted by patrick68794:

Yes it is...

https://www.ign.com/articles/best-selling-video-games-of-all-time-grand-theft-auto-minecraft-tetris

#8 all time and #4 for AAA games. The only other games that have sold more aside from the three previously mentioned are Minecraft, Wii Sports (and only because it was sold with almost every Wii), Tetris, and PUBG.

Just some advice, using Wikipedia as a source for anything is generally frowned upon, if you'd been in school at any point over the last 20 years you should already know this. The people that have tasked themselves with maintaining that page for example don't accept that Todd Howard of all people is a valid source for the number of copies that Skyrim has sold because it wasn't an official press release.

Just some advice. Read the whole conversation before jumping.

Starbug claimed that Bethesda has two of the biggest IP's in gaming.

It isn't in the top 20.

Just the sports franchises alone pushes the two IP's out of a top 5.

The "source" you're using is inaccurate. Skyrim has officially sold more copies by itself than your inaccurate source claims TES has sold total lol maybe understand what you're reading before trying to act like you have any idea what you're talking about.

[patrick68794]

Originally posted by Wade Rocketowsky:

Originally posted by Goof:

it depends on when fallout 5 comes out. its the most popular show on the planet right now, if they can release another one quickly

Quickly? Seriously? It took Bethesda 10 years to make Starfield, which feels like an indie game made by a small team of a few people, and you think they'll make a new quality Fallout game within half a year - a year, so they can ride the hype? LOL If they make a new Fallout by 2037 I will be very surprised.

Starfield was in full development for five years. There are also exactly zero games made by teams of a few people that match the quality, scope, and scale of Starfield.

[patrick68794]

Originally posted by SerraShaar:

Originally posted by patrick68794:

Yes it is...

https://www.ign.com/articles/best-selling-video-games-of-all-time-grand-theft-auto-minecraft-tetris

#8 all time and #4 for AAA games. The only other games that have sold more aside from the three previously mentioned are Minecraft, Wii Sports (and only because it was sold with almost every Wii), Tetris, and PUBG.

Just some advice, using Wikipedia as a source for anything is generally frowned upon, if you'd been in school at any point over the last 20 years you should already know this. The people that have tasked themselves with maintaining that page for example don't accept that Todd Howard of all people is a valid source for the number of copies that Skyrim has sold because it wasn't an official press release.

What nonsense is this?

So the new generations games get to cheat? and thats okay. But hey, Old games that came in 1981 don't count because...why?

Lol you wanna try again and make some sense? The only game from the 80s that's sold enough to be on that list is Tetris.

[Goof]

Originally posted by Starbug:

Originally posted by patrick68794:

It'd take just as long or longer for Obsidian to release a new Fallout. And it'd likely be worse than anything BGS would make. Avowed looks awful and they have Outer Worlds 2 to make after that.

After fallout 3, new Vegas was a step back (apart from iron sights), so I also hope they don't give obsidian another go.

i largely disagree with that. new vegas added a lot back into the game that beth stripped in 3. obsidian made new vegas into a classic rpg rather that a first person shooter with xp. I havent played outer worlds 2 though... the first was decent

[Goof]

Originally posted by Wade Rocketowsky:

Originally posted by Goof:

it depends on when fallout 5 comes out. its the most popular show on the planet right now, if they can release another one quickly

Quickly? Seriously? It took Bethesda 10 years to make Starfield, which feels like an indie game made by a small team of a few people, and you think they'll make a new quality Fallout game within half a year - a year, so they can ride the hype? LOL If they make a new Fallout by 2037 I will be very surprised.

obsidian made new vegas in 18 months and even as terrible as the stability was, was amazing game to play at launch. beth doesnt want to give thier ips to anyone anymore but microsoft could make them do it again, especially if they want another fallout before the show completely finishes

[PrahanaHazGutz]

Originally posted by Goof:

Originally posted by Wade Rocketowsky:

Quickly? Seriously? It took Bethesda 10 years to make Starfield, which feels like an indie game made by a small team of a few people, and you think they'll make a new quality Fallout game within half a year - a year, so they can ride the hype? LOL If they make a new Fallout by 2037 I will be very surprised.

obsidian made new vegas in 18 months and even as terrible as the stability was, was amazing game to play at launch. beth doesnt want to give thier ips to anyone anymore but microsoft could make them do it again, especially if they want another fallout before the show completely finishes

In my experience (and from what I recall -- a LOT of other people's) NV was the absolutely worst game for bugs I have played in my entire gaming history of 52 years.

So, maybe that 18 months should have been extended a bit

[Old Man Gamer (OMG)]

Not going to happen. Too much money is to be made from specific IPs and I expect them to put their focus on that. Closing the studios they did is not a shock and is just a market thing. It makes investors happy to see less money going to employees.

[AdahnGorion]

Originally posted by Old Man Gamer (OMG):

Not going to happen. Too much money is to be made from specific IPs and I expect them to put their focus on that. Closing the studios they did is not a shock and is just a market thing. It makes investors happy to see less money going to employees.

Microsoft already own the IP´s. They don´t need ZeniMAX to use them.

[patrick68794]

Originally posted by Goof:

Originally posted by Starbug:

After fallout 3, new Vegas was a step back (apart from iron sights), so I also hope they don't give obsidian another go.

i largely disagree with that. new vegas added a lot back into the game that beth stripped in 3. obsidian made new vegas into a classic rpg rather that a first person shooter with xp. I havent played outer worlds 2 though... the first was decent

Outer Worlds 2 is probably five years away from release lol BGS will likely be deep in development of Fallout 5 before Obsidian would be even remotely close to ready take on a project like that.

[Wade]

The clock is ticking and I don't think Bethesda can work fast enough to capitalize on sudden Fallout hype-train. By the way the Fallout hype is created due to the TV series which was good and entertaining, not because of Fallout 76 game - Bethesda's last Fallout title which was the source of endless controversies, memes and ridicule (remember Internet Historian?). And now after another disaster called Starfield, is it really possible that there are people who still seriously believe that Bethesda will make a new Fallout game quickly and with quality?

What will most likely happen is this: Bethesda will make a new Fallout game as usual years late, after the Fallout hype train is long gone anyway. And that game will be of Starfield "quality" and almost no one will play it. The bosses at Microsoft will have had enough of everything and sell Bethesda to some big investment fund, which will after a year or two sell the rights to the franchise to a smaller third party, and shut down the studio because it is unprofitable.

[TsampaD]

Originally posted by Wade Rocketowsky:

The clock is ticking and I don't think Bethesda can work fast enough to capitalize on sudden Fallout hype-train. By the way the Fallout hype is created due to the TV series which was good and entertaining, not because of Fallout 76 game - Bethesda's last Fallout title which was the source of endless controversies, memes and ridicule (remember Internet Historian?). And now after another disaster called Starfield, is it really possible that there are people who still seriously believe that Bethesda will make a new Fallout game quickly and with quality?

What will most likely happen is this: Bethesda will make a new Fallout game as usual years late, after the Fallout hype train is long gone anyway. And that game will be of Starfield "quality" and almost no one will play it. The bosses at Microsoft will have had enough of everything and sell Bethesda to some big investment fund, which will after a year or two sell the rights to the franchise to a smaller third party, and shut down the studio because it is unprofitable.

agree.

for now what they have to do is to fix Starfield's problems which are quite annoying.

[Ultrabot]

Originally posted by Wade Rocketowsky:

The clock

Oh noes! Not the tick tock of the ticking clock. I'd trust bgs with a story over you guys any day. Your narratives, while you obviously worked hard on them, are boring.

[PrahanaHazGutz]

I am constantly amazed at how someone, who hasn't played the game, can be annoyed by anything in the game.

It's - magical almost.

[PrahanaHazGutz]

Originally posted by Ultrabot:

Originally posted by Wade Rocketowsky:

The clock

Oh noes! Not the tick tock of the ticking clock. I'd trust bgs with a story over you guys any day. Your narratives, while you obviously worked hard on them, are boring.

They make for excellent fiction tho!