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v1.11.33 05/01/2024 BETA
v1.10.32 03/26/2024
v1.10.31 03/19/2024
v1.10.30 03/06/2024 BETA
v1.9.71 03/04/2024 (Hotfix)
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Nice - But all things that should have been there at launch if we are honest...
The game is not finished dude, they are still finishing the game... This is not a live service... They are still working on the game and adding and changing things, meaning its clearly not finished...
Updates are nice - But they are not bonus content that we should be grateful for - they are whats meant to in the finished game...
Maybe next time they can finish it before they release it...?
That sounds a bit glib, but every dev leaves features on the table in order to get a product out the door. Some devs have the luxury of continuing to work on and improve after a release, others do not. Degrees vary, of course. And of course, it's fine to want more in a game at launch, but once a launch has happened, it is and always will have been what it is - anything that comes after is an improvement, even if we'd really liked to have had it at launch.
Maps good at launch? Definitely. Good now? Still yes. :)
I just think its a bit crap when a dev releases a game you buy - then you realise you need to wait 12 months for all the updates to actually play the best version of the game... Its a bit crap... Again this is not a live service...
Sure. You want me to disagree? I can't :D
But there's degrees in there - I was happy enough with the game at launch to play 500 hours vanilla, then another 450+ (I forget how much) with mods, and now with this beta it has changed enough that I'm happy to start a new character that I may well play another couple of hundred hours with, or more who knows. I have a long list of things I'd have liked at launch, but none of them I consider make or break to the game, so for me "a bit crap" would be an overstatement. For someone who found the game frustratingly unplayable without a map, sure, for them, a bit crap does cover it.
Not the point - It should have either released finished, or in a beta/ea state so we knew it was not finished... That would have been polite...
Some games release without features, then never get updates. They just release the way they are. If Bethesda chose not to update this game, it'd just be "the Bethesda game without a map" not "incomplete game". I'm definitely not saying we should be grateful it's getting updates that add features, but we could appreciate that it's not necessar maybe? We shouldn't be grateful, but we should consider the fact that Bethesda are able to put work into updating and adding features a sign that they haven't been cut loose and it's a positive (even it not having things at launch we consider a negative - both things can be true).
Seriously, watch that PWL where it's just Mike and Alanah talking about Starfield. He addresses this very thing, I think. Unless that was another one lol
Oh trust me - id rather get all the updates and wait than not have any updates for sure man... It just means shelving the game for nearly a year it seems (i played about 100 hours then stopped to wait for updates)... Yay...
Yeah, that's fair. Each to their own :)
Was/is there anything you were hoping for that would get you back into it?
Yeah - first it was just the normal bug fixes/broken quests and things - i was having troubles with a couple of quests so i needed to wait for patches... After a few patches the issues were still there so i had to loose 20 hours of progress to get to a save where i had not started those 2 quests... After that i put the game down and decided just to wait for the expansion knowing there would be lots of fixes... Then i will start a new game...
As for specifics im glad they fixed the maps and we are getting a land rover for sure... Im coming back for sure once Shattered Space lands...
The only really disappointing thing for me and i don't even know if they can fix/change it - would be the random landing zones and POI's outside the main content/locations - I find those environments pretty bland and un-interesting to explore and the POI are too repetitive with not enough unique POI's and things like that... BUT im getting over it and i really think the land rover will help alot with that... As i loved being a bounty hunter hunting down criminals but it just became very repetitive thats all...
I also hope they upgrade, do something with the Temples haha, they are so lame...
Also im glad we can now tweak certain things like vendor credits and other gameplay elements to tailor the experience - Its all good - I really think with all the updates and dlc/expansions SF will be great...
The game is finished, they're adding new features because people requested them. This is literally not new in the industry lol. At least it isn't like Paradox where they're selling stuff that could've been included in an update for like 5-10 bucks.
If you want unfinished games being sold Hades 2 just released where the main story isn't complete, or Baldur's Gate 3 which was in early access for 3 years before being finished.