just finished mass effect 1 for the first time

[GrandTickler]

it's everything i wanted Starfield to be lol
it even looks better, and it has vehicles
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3162368937
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3161578953
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3162369165

[I Denizen I]

Wait till you get to the 3rd one, 2 is OK, 3 for me personally, was amazing.

[Wolfherz]

I've probably put 1,000 hours into multiple playthroughs across multiple platforms playing the ME Trilogy and I can confirm it's a superior game to Starfield.

[Darth Revan]

the entire mass effect series (including andromeda) is amazing.

[GrandTickler]

Originally posted by I Denizen I:

Wait till you get to the 3rd one, 2 is OK, 3 for me personally, was amazing.

cant wait to start the 2nd one tomorrow! glad to hear it gets even better

[Seekrt]

Originally posted by GrandTickler:

Originally posted by I Denizen I:

Wait till you get to the 3rd one, 2 is OK, 3 for me personally, was amazing.

cant wait to start the 2nd one tomorrow! glad to hear it gets even better

2nd one has a very 'stressful' storyline. Very well made with a strong ending carrying the consequences of your decisions.

Have fun! Let us know how it went.

[Cutlass Jack]

Well it does have vehicles, but it doesn't have space combat. So I can't really say it wins on that point. But still, an amazing set of games storywise.

And ME's companions & romances crush Starfields into a fine red paste.

The 2nd one is my favorite, but all worth playing once, if not twice.

[Seekrt]

Originally posted by Cutlass Jack:

Well it does have vehicles, but it doesn't have space combat. So I can't really say it wins on that point. But still, an amazing set of games storywise.

And ME's companions & romances crush Starfields into a fine red paste.

The 2nd one is my favorite, but all worth playing once, if not twice.

True, no actual player controlled space combat.
But there are combat sequences that are representative of the decisions you made in upgrading or not. Won't say more not to spoil anything but consequences can be dire based on decision making.

[PeaceMaker]

Originally posted by GrandTickler:

it's everything i wanted Starfield to be lol
it even looks better, and it has vehicles
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3162368937
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3161578953
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3162369165

Great eh? It gets better from 2 onwards as everything you did in 1 starts to catch up with you.

But yea, Starfiedl made me go right back to playing Mass Effect- and the ladies are sexy too with no shame or pretending to push some retarded agenda! Damn good sci fi.

[Jarsonne]

Thanks Starfield avoid the ME1 mini game vehicles crap, it's been trashed in ME2&3 for a good reason, awful bad mini game gameplay.

For me ME1 is a the very weak point of the trilogy, repetitive empty dungeons too big for their real content, hawfull mini game planet gameplay with much more POI and POI repetition than in Starfield.

Despite ton of weak/bad points, Starfield is widely superior to Mass Effect 1, but clearly not on par with the whole, Mass Effect first trilogy.

[arthahar]

Originally posted by GrandTickler:

it's everything i wanted Starfield to be lol
it even looks better, and it has vehicles
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3162368937
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3161578953
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3162369165

Then play in Mass Effect. Lol. Starfield (and any other BGS RPG) is different RPG subgenre from linear main quest centeric RPG without open world like ME.
if you expect from Starfield has been like ME then this is your problem in expectations.

[Jarsonne]

Originally posted by arthahar:

Starfield (and any other BGS RPG) is different RPG subgenre from linear main quest centeric RPG without open world like ME.

The pain for me is it's players like OP that's been very vocal to spite against ME2&3 and MEA certainly contributing significantly to Bioware RIP, and zero dev to do anything a bit similar.

Games don't need be clones of each other, even ME1 is a deeply different than SF, they clearly has deeply different qualities.

I would sat the open world tag for SF is ambigous and not matching enough open world games before.

Instead, I would tag Starfield open galaxy and very open, ME1 are neither of both.

[arthahar]

Originally posted by Jarsonne:

Originally posted by arthahar:

Starfield (and any other BGS RPG) is different RPG subgenre from linear main quest centeric RPG without open world like ME.

The pain for me is it's players like OP that's been very vocal to spite against ME2&3 and MEA certainly contributing significantly to Bioware RIP, and zero dev to do anything a bit similar.

Games don't need be clones of each other, even ME1 is a deeply different than SF, they clearly has deeply different qualities.

I would sat the open world tag for SF is ambigous and not matching enough open world games before.

Instead, I would tag Starfield open galaxy and very open, ME1 are neither of both.

For me open world is accessability most game zones independent from your level. With small limitations based at lore and quest status. With big size each outer game zone and world in general. You can't have continues world in case many planets.

[I Denizen I]

Originally posted by arthahar:

Originally posted by GrandTickler:

it's everything i wanted Starfield to be lol
it even looks better, and it has vehicles
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3162368937
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3161578953
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3162369165

Then play in Mass Effect. Lol. Starfield (and any other BGS RPG) is different RPG subgenre from linear main quest centeric RPG without open world like ME.
if you expect from Starfield has been like ME then this is your problem in expectations.

Mass Effect is a Space rpg, with a main quest, side quests, exploration, companions, character levelling, gear and weapons to be found with mods for them, a game of humanity in space.

Remind me again how this is fundamentally different than SF again?

Sure there are some mechanical differences, but they are the same genre.

[momopovich]

Originally posted by GrandTickler:

it's everything i wanted Starfield to be lol
it even looks better, and it has vehicles
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3162368937
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3161578953
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3162369165

Mass effect is iconic. My favorite fictional universe in video games, I've replayed the trilogy too many times to count since 2010.

You're not showing its selling points tho : the mako is terrible and the landing areas with 3 or 4 POIs (most of which are a single container) are... not amazing, even compared to SFs random lading zones.

The first game looks amazing in legendary edition. The other 2 are mostly unchanged.

[momopovich]

Originally posted by I Denizen I:

Mass Effect is a Space rpg, with a main quest, side quests, exploration, companions, character levelling, gear and weapons to be found with mods for them, a game of humanity in space.

Remind me again how this is fundamentally different than SF again?

Sure there are some mechanical differences, but they are the same genre.

"Some mechanical differences" :

SF is a fairly advanced space sandbox with base building, starship building, every planetary zone is a large open area with proc gen terrain

ME is a fairly traditional RPG with closed areas and 0 sandbox mechanics (If you want to mention the landing zones in ME1 : no they arent good and no one misses them in ME2 and 3 except a few trolls in obscure forums)