Are we evil?

[conejeitor]

So... these Spacers and Ecliptics... what did they do to deserve what we do to them?

[StormhawkV]

They have loot.

[oak]

Good question.

Is Han Solo evil?
(He shot first. No questions will be taken at this time.)

[nordmeyerx]

I have a policy in video games. Do not attack unless attacked. That happens about 99.9% of the time :)

Although, that being said, I really do want to invoke violence against the "photographers" that ♥♥♥♥♥ at me about getting in "their shot".

[oak]

Originally posted by nordmeyerx:

I have a policy in video games. Do not attack unless attacked. That happens about 99.9% of the time :)

Although, that being said, I really do want to invoke violence against the "photographers" that ♥♥♥♥♥ at me about getting in "their shot".

Those photographers might be spirit guides. They are very calm, often in perilous environments, with no ship or companions in sight, and they give you a special destination to seek.

So best you shoot on sight :D

I'm thinking we are evil lol

[Liquid Inc]

Spacers are loosely Raiders, undesirables, those on the run from the law etc.. It's a blanket term for anyone not part of a major faction. They can be good, and they can be bad, but when "Spacers" are unwelcome everywhere, you can guarantee they'll become "bad" pretty quick. They can only rely on their tiny splinter cells; Other spacers might even be an enemy, and they never work as a larger group like the Fleet or Ecliptic would.

Ecliptics are predominantly mercenaries. Not all "mercs" are good, and not all are bad, but Ecliptic? Well, Ecliptic however fall very hard on the "we'll beat you to an inch of your life" side of the mercs hierarchy. See how they act at Red Mile, for example.. Even trying to Intimidate Mei into giving them more pay.
They're often used by both sides of the Faction war, and have no real allegiance to either side. They're entirely driven by might and money.
Ecliptic Captains even fight for their command... Not strong enough? You die and someone else takes your place as Captain.

[gywidion]

Visit some of their hold ups and look at what they do to Civs

[oak]

On a more serious note than my last post:

Outside of a literal few encounters (Crimson Fleet UC Sysdef mission, first act "retrieve Barrett" mission & Ecliptics @ Red Mile), they're all agro from the very start. That in itself is enough of a "pass" for a play to treat their factions however they want.

It would perhaps have been nice to see some variety in their response to the player. Like perhaps encounter Ecliptics out hunting another bounty (not you) and just wanting you to get out of their way, or perhaps Crimson Fleet finished cleaning out a crashed ship/deserted location and bailing rather than confront you. Or even a lone Ecliptic maybe offering to split the payment on a job with you (though there is a random bounty hunter you can meet who does that).

There's a good argument that CF are "evil" in that traditional sense, some individuals notwithstanding, as there's dialogue and lore discoverable in-game which removes any doubt about how they treat people. Ecliptics, less so - I'd rather Ecliptics encountered players as 'neutral' at first, only becoming agro if we stepped over a line (get caught looting) or initiated the violence. (And I'm sure we'd all like to beat the snot out of the Ecliptics at Red Mile.)

[veer]

They are murderers and thieves, So best solution for murderers and thieves? Shoot them. Applies to real life as well, though instead we spend our hard earned money feeding them and housing them.

[Ankua]

I live near a "Homeless" camp. they sound a lot like them. I just can't see me looting the drug addict for his fix like I do in games. I should quit this horrible game.,

[Emphoise]

Originally posted by conejeitor:

So... these Spacers and Ecliptics... what did they do to deserve what we do to them?

They shoot at you on sight ?

[Ihateeverybody]

Originally posted by veer:

They are murderers and thieves, So best solution for murderers and thieves? Shoot them. Applies to real life as well, though instead we spend our hard earned money feeding them and housing them.

Yeah I don't think we should give tax breaks to the wealthy either. Glad to see someone who shares my core values.

[Puck Futin]

The dark side of the force tells me to destroy everything...

[✠Deser✞🅵☣⚔⚔♏✠]

Originally posted by conejeitor:

So... these Spacers and Ecliptics... what did they do to deserve what we do to them?

If you are a human then you are evil.

[mookymook]

trying to elevate this garbage game to the basis for a morality discussion
pathetic

[ListenFat]

Originally posted by conejeitor:

So... these Spacers and Ecliptics... what did they do to deserve what we do to them?

What a silly question - they attack on sight; long before they even know who you are.
They are a tribes; that openly attempt to kill, anyone outside of their tribe.