I think paid mods are good. Let me explain:

[caracal]

1. It gives modders with more experience who moved on from modding games an incentive to come back to video game modding.
2. It raises the quality of all mods because modders want to be able to pass Bethesda's quality assurance to be allowed to sell their mods.


I also made a video about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahr2rGS7fj4

[Narafian]

The only real big reason people dislike it is because Bethesda makes money off of other people improving and keeping their game alive. I am glad modders get some money they do AMAZING things.

[SerraShaar]

Originally posted by Narafian:

The only real big reason people dislike it is because Bethesda makes money off of other people improving and keeping their game alive. I am glad modders get some money they do AMAZING things.

Pretty much this.

I don't mind supporting modders. But I aint gonna support Bethesda who owe the community already by keeping their Average Games Alives for so many years.

[Vensalir]

Originally posted by Narafian:

The only real big reason people dislike it is because Bethesda makes money off of other people improving and keeping their game alive. I am glad modders get some money they do AMAZING things.

Yep, absolutely. Modders, like all "content" creators, are artists, and deserve payment for their work if they ask for it. I support several through Patreon.

No reason for Bethesda to skim off the money I would be giving the modders themselves, though.

[Schlumpsha]

They're not. Let me explain:

1. Verified Creations are usually made on the side by single authors, not a team. Said single author then needs to continuously keep updating their submitted content each time a Starfield update rolls out. It is highly likely that eventually the creator grow tired of Starfield and their submitted creations become abandoned in the long run. Making them defunct unless some sort of unofficial patch is created by the community.

2. There is no guarantee that Verified Creations are going to be compatible with other Verified Creations made by different authors. Such as using the same location, modifying the same items,ect. Same is true for future Starfield DLC.

3. Realistically, only modding teams that decide to release verified creations for Starfield as their "main job" will reliable and continuously support their works. One example would be Kinggath Creations in the case of Fallout 4/Skyrim SE.

[caracal]

Originally posted by Vensalir:

Originally posted by Narafian:

The only real big reason people dislike it is because Bethesda makes money off of other people improving and keeping their game alive. I am glad modders get some money they do AMAZING things.

Yep, absolutely. Modders, like all "content" creators, are artists, and deserve payment for their work if they ask for it. I support several through Patreon.

No reason for Bethesda to skim off the money I would be giving the modders themselves, though.

I think one thing to consider is that Bethesda offers the platform for millions of players to see the mod, and the game to build the mod on. Without bethesda games being so moddable by design there would no mods, just nice screenshots of models on a website (if it is a weapon mod).

That is a factor in bethesda taking some money. Bethesda's cut of the money is you paying for the visibility of your mod and the ability to use the modding tools themselves.

[RazorChain]

Originally posted by caracal:

1. It gives modders with more experience who moved on from modding games an incentive to come back to video game modding.
2. It raises the quality of all mods because modders want to be able to pass Bethesda's quality assurance to be allowed to sell their mods.


I also made a video about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahr2rGS7fj4

I completely agree, mods going through Bethesda's QA is absolutely great.

There are precious few companies that are as good as Bethesda in their QA. In fact most of their games are released without any bugs or glitches. They will probably do a great job assuring the quality of the paid mods

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Nr6RiSD5Mc

[Starbug]

Anyone know what the breakdowns of percentages to the modder and Bethesda are?

[RazorChain]

Originally posted by Starbug:

Anyone know what the breakdowns of percentages to the modder and Bethesda are?

I haven't found any verified source about it, some say that they are just paid contractors

[BaneBlackGuard]

open market is the best solution. People that think they can people to pay for a mod should have that opportunity. I don't really expect that to drive some kind of increase in mod quality. Most mods will still be free because most people aren't going to be willing to pay for most mods. People will pay for what they think is worth the price, that's the way it should be.

I'm unclear on why anyone would think this is a bad thing, unless they mistakenly believe paid mods will destroy the sanctity of the modding universe or some such. Modders have always had the ability to charge for their mods, it's just not what most people expect. This just streamlines the process for users and modders in exchange for Bethesda getting a cut. Don't like it? Don't use it. I'm not seeing the problem.

[Carlos Spicywiener]

Originally posted by SerraShaar:

Originally posted by Narafian:

The only real big reason people dislike it is because Bethesda makes money off of other people improving and keeping their game alive. I am glad modders get some money they do AMAZING things.

Pretty much this.

I don't mind supporting modders. But I aint gonna support Bethesda who owe the community already by keeping their Average Games Alives for so many years.

What exactly does Bethesda owe to the community?

[Carlos Spicywiener]

Originally posted by Pookie101:

I don't care if people pay for content or not. If people think the paid content is worth buying. Good for you.

This Creations paid content isn't however designed to help modders. It's designed to be a revenue source for Microsoft to make investors happy.

And the gamers who buy them. It makes them happy too...hmm

[TsampaD]

yes, what should I write here now? that we paid for a game title at 70 euros and the updates didn't help the situation much to fix the game's problems.


the developers tried hard enough and their efforts just weren't enough.

modders didn't work like they should and now we have to pay more to get better modders?

we generally paid for a game title at 70 euros in such a situation and obviously we should thank their work and pay more to see results in a game title?

personally there are no words...

[Seseron]

Originally posted by SerraShaar:

Originally posted by Narafian:

The only real big reason people dislike it is because Bethesda makes money off of other people improving and keeping their game alive. I am glad modders get some money they do AMAZING things.

Pretty much this.

I don't mind supporting modders. But I aint gonna support Bethesda who owe the community already by keeping their Average Games Alives for so many years.

You're using Bethesda's virtual assets and codes. Imagine working for years to build a system from scratch, only to have someone come in, make a few changes, and then sell that as a product and you get nothing.

[SerraShaar]

Originally posted by Seseron:

Originally posted by SerraShaar:

Pretty much this.

I don't mind supporting modders. But I aint gonna support Bethesda who owe the community already by keeping their Average Games Alives for so many years.

Utterly ridiculous. You're using Bethesda's virtual assets and codes. Imagine working for years to build a system from scratch, only to have someone come in, make a few changes, and then sell that as a product and you get nothing.

Imagine, doing the bare minimum and yet still sell copies over the years because peoples make mods for free.

Oh the Irony.

[Seseron]

Originally posted by SerraShaar:

Imagine, doing the bare minimum and yet still sell copies over the years because peoples make mods for free.

Oh the Irony.

Bare minimum? Is that a reasonable perspective? 99.9% of the work is done. Modding alters 0.1% of the base code.