Can't blow up the reactor in First Contact

[Dreth]

I'm stuck because I can't pickpocket Amin, I didn't save a skill point to unlock pickpocketing and you can't kill him because he's essential. The entire ship is hostile because I've already tried the murder hobo solution. I swear to God this game.

[His Divine Shadow]

So you messed up and it's the games fault?

[Unturned]

Originally posted by Dreth:

I'm stuck because I can't pickpocket Amin, I didn't save a skill point to unlock pickpocketing and you can't kill him because he's essential. The entire ship is hostile because I've already tried the murder hobo solution. I swear to God this game.

*sigh* another satisfied customer. And unfortunately you already passed the refund window. Sincerely sorry about this.

[Unturned]

Originally posted by His Divine Shadow:

So you messed up and it's the games fault?

A player should not be able to "mess up" this way. It the game dev field its referred to as "bad game design".

[CurrySpirals]

Originally posted by Unturned:

Originally posted by His Divine Shadow:

So you messed up and it's the games fault?

A player should not be able to "mess up" this way. It the game dev field its referred to as "bad game design".

It’s an optional path in a side quest that requires you to be sneaky. OP murdered someone and made the ship hostile. Choice in games means the possibility to screw up. OP can reload and try again when they have another perk point.

Or not be a monster and don’t blow up the reactor, killing a ship full of settlers.

[Cactus]

Had the exact same problem.
Pickpocket Amin first then kill everyone, thats what i did :)
And yes this is stupid that you can't actually loot Amin's corpse because hes tagged as essential, there should be no essential npc :/

[Emphoise]

Originally posted by Dreth:

I'm stuck because I can't pickpocket Amin, I didn't save a skill point to unlock pickpocketing and you can't kill him because he's essential. The entire ship is hostile because I've already tried the murder hobo solution. I swear to God this game.

Cant you leave the ship and come back later with the skill ?

Havent experienced that path but that should be doable.

[Raven]

Originally posted by Dreth:

I'm stuck because I can't pickpocket Amin, I didn't save a skill point to unlock pickpocketing and you can't kill him because he's essential. The entire ship is hostile because I've already tried the murder hobo solution. I swear to God this game.

Wow! Actions have consequences? Who would have thought.

[Dreth]

Originally posted by Russel:

Originally posted by Dreth:

I'm stuck because I can't pickpocket Amin, I didn't save a skill point to unlock pickpocketing and you can't kill him because he's essential. The entire ship is hostile because I've already tried the murder hobo solution. I swear to God this game.

Wow! Actions have consequences? Who would have thought.

The opposite, I tried to kill him and my bullets had no consequential impact whatsoever, I needed to go and grind out foxbats on a distant planet so I could unlock a core mechanic that is apparently a hard requirement since every quest NPC in this game seems to be essential, no matter if it's a fetch quest or inconsequential sidequest.

[Sirendipity]

Originally posted by CurrySpirals:

Originally posted by Unturned:

A player should not be able to "mess up" this way. It the game dev field its referred to as "bad game design".

It’s an optional path in a side quest that requires you to be sneaky. OP murdered someone and made the ship hostile. Choice in games means the possibility to screw up. OP can reload and try again when they have another perk point.

Or not be a monster and don’t blow up the reactor, killing a ship full of settlers.

This is what happens when people want the ability to kill all NPCs.

[Eminem]

Originally posted by Unturned:

Originally posted by His Divine Shadow:

So you messed up and it's the games fault?

A player should not be able to "mess up" this way. It the game dev field its referred to as "bad game design".

Leave level up for the pickpocket and comeback later. Quest isn't going anywhere.

Duh

[Dreth]

Originally posted by Eminem:

Originally posted by Unturned:

A player should not be able to "mess up" this way. It the game dev field its referred to as "bad game design".

Leave level up for the pickpocket and comeback later. Quest isn't going anywhere.

Duh

Which is what I did, and it's the equivalent of stopping a movie right before the climax to go take a long and painful constipated sh*t, by the time I came back I cared even less about the quest.

And I love how everyone here is making it sound like the problem was everyone getting hostile, ffs I tried to shoot the ship before even boarding it, but it was marked as essential so I had to board it again only to find out that the only way to proceed is to get an item from an NPC who is also marked as essential.

What's the point of making a character like The Hunter and playing through the game as that archetype, when the game clearly wasn't built with an evil playthrough in mind? I exhausted all of Amin's dialogue, I checked every nook and cranny of the ship to find an alternative way when shooting him in the face didn't work, and they didn't bother to implement a single failsafe. If you're going to add branches, you need failsafes.

[Mio Rin]

You should be able to knock him out to get the key.
Punch him or use EM weapons.

[Eminem]

Originally posted by Dreth:

Originally posted by Eminem:

Leave level up for the pickpocket and comeback later. Quest isn't going anywhere.

Duh

Which is what I did, and it's the equivalent of stopping a movie right before the climax to go take a long and painful constipated sh*t, by the time I came back I cared even less about the quest.

And I love how everyone here is making it sound like the problem was everyone getting hostile, ffs I tried to shoot the ship before even boarding it, but it was marked as essential so I had to board it again only to find out that the only way to proceed is to get an item from an NPC who is also marked as essential.

What's the point of making a character like The Hunter and playing through the game as that archetype, when the game clearly wasn't built with an evil playthrough in mind? I exhausted all of Amin's dialogue, I checked every nook and cranny of the ship to find an alternative way when shooting him in the face didn't work, and they didn't bother to implement a single failsafe. If you're going to add branches, you need failsafes.

no different in other games where you are underlevelled, getting 1 shot and have to comeback later. cry more nub

[His Divine Shadow]

Originally posted by CurrySpirals:

Originally posted by Unturned:

A player should not be able to "mess up" this way. It the game dev field its referred to as "bad game design".

It’s an optional path in a side quest that requires you to be sneaky. OP murdered someone and made the ship hostile. Choice in games means the possibility to screw up. OP can reload and try again when they have another perk point.

Or not be a monster and don’t blow up the reactor, killing a ship full of settlers.

No no, we can't have consequences in our vidja gam.

[CurrySpirals]

Originally posted by Cactus:

Had the exact same problem.
Pickpocket Amin first then kill everyone, thats what i did :)
And yes this is stupid that you can't actually loot Amin's corpse because hes tagged as essential, there should be no essential npc :/

Essential NPCs exist so quests don’t break. If an NPC gets attacked by an animal or security guard, fall off a cliff or something, then you show up and are confused why you can’t complete a quest through no fault of your own. People would be complaining so much more.