Playing Star Citizen Reminded me How Good Starfield is

[xShapelessx]

Holy *****.

I am running a higher end system with a 7800 x 3d and was dipping as low as 30 fps on medium in 1440 in Star Citizen (while it looked terrible)

Whats the point in all those systems like free roaming flying etc, if you're pulling 40 fps on a 3500 dollar rig? It's literally a joke. 10 years in alpha and you people bash Starfield? lmao. Starfield is at least a competent (to some amazing) space shooter/rpg with non linear elements. I'd much rather continue playing Starfield than waste any time at 40 fps in Star Citizen. maybe once they make it playable itll be worth sinking time into.

Play Starfield instead.

BTW ITS BEEN IN EARLY ACCESS ALPHA FOR 12 YEARS LMAO GET REAL GUYS

[Tweakstter]

引用自 Sirendipity：

引用自 vonbleak：

Star Citizen is an Alpha... and is far from finished... No one disputes that... Critique it all you want but its clearly unfinished... Its literally an Early Access game atm :cozybethesda:

Arent you the guy who hates greedy corporations?

Isnt Star Ciitizen selling ships for hundreds of dollars? In some cases - thousands?

Star citizen announced a Everything pack that costs 48000 but you get every ship a few months back. The defence to make it not seem greedy as hell is that the pack only shows up for people that have already spent over 1k on SC

[Call Sign: Raven]

引用自 Tweakstter：

引用自 Sirendipity：

Arent you the guy who hates greedy corporations?

Isnt Star Ciitizen selling ships for hundreds of dollars? In some cases - thousands?

Star citizen announced a Everything pack that costs 48000 but you get every ship a few months back. The defence to make it not seem greedy as hell is that the pack only shows up for people that have already spent over 1k on SC

Just fact-checked this because it sounds ridiculous. But, you're right, and I'm sad now LOL

[Sirendipity]

引用自 Tweakstter：

引用自 Sirendipity：

Arent you the guy who hates greedy corporations?

Isnt Star Ciitizen selling ships for hundreds of dollars? In some cases - thousands?

Star citizen announced a Everything pack that costs 48000 but you get every ship a few months back. The defence to make it not seem greedy as hell is that the pack only shows up for people that have already spent over 1k on SC

Hilarious the guy who spent hours and hours over a "corporate greed" freak out - brushes that off.

[Starbug]

For only thirteen thousand dollars in real money, you can have a gold-trimmed spaceship in star citizen.

[Sirendipity]

引用自 Starbug：

For only thirteen thousand dollars in real money, you can have a gold-trimmed spaceship in star citizen.

But that greedy Todd!

[AnonyCat 𝐦𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐠]

引用自 CurrySpirals：

引用自 vonbleak：

Star Citizen is still in Alpha and wont hit 1.0 for a few more years at least... Im sure if you played an early Alpha of Starfield a few years ago it would have been pretty rough too haha... :cozybethesda:

Wait until Star Citizen is actually finished before comparing it to other finished games... That makes sense right...? :cozybethesda:

If they charge people money it’s fair game to critique it.

Yeah, plus its been in development for this many years.

[HeyYou]

引用自 xShapelessx：

引用自 HeyYou：

I followed Star Citizen for a while, but then lost track for several years. Found it again, noticed not much had changed, ignored it for a few more years, checked again, some progress, but still a LONG way from being a 'playable game'..... I look in every now and again since, but, I don't expect SC to ever be a 'real' game. Or even a 1.0 release candidate.

I run starfield on an i7 9700, RTX 3070, 32 gb RAM, and 2TB NVME drive. I play at 3440X1440, all settings on high/quality. Runs fantastic, aside from the problem I have with infinite loading screens at the moment.... If I can find the cause of that, and FIX it, I'll be a happy camper. :D

What do you consider good fps though?

Your computer isnt bad but its not insane either. I have a better cpu than you and running ddr 5. Game runs horrible in 1440. I run every other game really well. Literally.

Im not happy at 60 fps and below though. I need 80 or higher

Smooth gameplay. No stuttering, little or no pop-in, or other undersireable behavior. Of course, *I* can't really tell the difference between 60 FPS, or 90+. Maybe I am just easy to please, but, so far as I am concerned, the games runs just fine on my rig.

And it isn't just the hardware either. Background processes can play a heavy role in weather things run 'good', or not.

[Call Sign: Raven]

引用自 Sirendipity：

引用自 Starbug：

For only thirteen thousand dollars in real money, you can have a gold-trimmed spaceship in star citizen.

But that greedy Todd!

BGS releases a full game with free patches and updates for $70

Greedy BGS!

Star Citizen releases a DLC pack totaling $48,000

WeLl At LeAsT iT's OpTiOnAl

kek

[CurrySpirals]

引用自 AdahnGorion：

引用自 xShapelessx：

Holy *****.

I am running a higher end system with a 7800 x 3d and was dipping as low as 30 fps on medium in 1440 in Star Citizen (while it looked terrible)

Whats the point in all those systems like free roaming flying etc, if you're pulling 40 fps on a 3500 dollar rig? It's literally a joke. 10 years in alpha and you people bash Starfield? lmao. Starfield is at least a competent (to some amazing) space shooter/rpg with non linear elements. I'd much rather continue playing Starfield than waste any time at 40 fps in Star Citizen. maybe once they make it playable itll be worth sinking time into.

Play Starfield instead.

BTW ITS BEEN IN EARLY ACCESS ALPHA FOR 12 YEARS LMAO GET REAL GUYS

I run constatly above 60 fps maxed out on 1440p.
Its an alpha mmo... not a SP full version.

They are not comparable in anyway however, since they are not same genre, not same theme and so forth.

They are both space themed games. Besides, products don’t need to be identical to compare them. If I’m trying to make a purchasing decision between Star Citizen and Starfield, I have to compare and contrast the two. Their differences is the point.

[PortalShifter]

引用自 HeyYou：

Star Citizen will never be 'finished'. I would be surprised if it even makes into Beta.

Starfailed finally got maps added to the game after 9 months.

Is it finished yet?

[Starbug]

引用自 PortalShifter：

引用自 HeyYou：

Star Citizen will never be 'finished'. I would be surprised if it even makes into Beta.

Starfailed finally got maps added to the game after 9 months.

Is it finished yet?

Is it more or less finished than star citizen?

[Sirendipity]

引用自 Call Sign: Raven：

引用自 Sirendipity：

But that greedy Todd!

BGS releases a full game with free patches and updates for $70

Greedy BGS!

Star Citizen releases a DLC pack totaling $48,000

WeLl At LeAsT iT's OpTiOnAl

kek

And they say there is no " agenda" to all of this.

[Call Sign: Raven]

引用自 Sirendipity：

引用自 Call Sign: Raven：

BGS releases a full game with free patches and updates for $70

Greedy BGS!

Star Citizen releases a DLC pack totaling $48,000

WeLl At LeAsT iT's OpTiOnAl

kek

And they say there is no " agenda" to all of this.

Oh no, no agenda at all

[Emphoise]

引用自 AdahnGorion：

引用自 CurrySpirals：

They are both space themed games. Besides, products don’t need to be identical to compare them. If I’m trying to make a purchasing decision between Star Citizen and Starfield, I have to compare and contrast the two. Their differences is the point.

I would say that SC is a Space Sandbox in its full glory and SF is much more a planet hubs game. But it depends on the eyes that watch.

SF -
Singleplayer
Action Adventuer with Sandbox focus.
Hub play and mostly planet focus (questing on those)
No real spaceflight outside confined space events and its not very realistic
Full released



SC
:Multiplayer
:MMORPG
:Able to do what you want (also has sandbox elements obviously) but focused on being part of a dynamic universe
:Realistic take on many things (unlike SF) you have to actual fly out from the planet and even if you can speed up, you can still transition from whereever you want to where you want an then land.
Alpha (albeit it is getting much closer to beta now)


They are not really similar in any way and have total different focuses.. in SC I would just maybe decide to walk to the spaceport, then fly out and then maybe go on a random mission, I might also go hunt players etc etc. Again MMORPG and the other an Action Adventure Sandbox.

SC have evolved alot just the last year tbh and with S42 being close to release, we will see a huge change in the MP (since they will put the layers over) and with DLSS/FSR support coming later this year, it will change alot with performance for many as well.


So it depends what you want.. support an alpha MMORPG game that is currently showing more progress than the last 5 years combined or an full release Action Adventure with Sandbox as its center.

You didnt mention base and ship building in 2 sandbox games

Sc just had animals on planets for the first time if im not mistaken ? No base building yet ?

But you can "do what you want" which is ?

[Emphoise]

引用自 AdahnGorion：

引用自 Emphoise：

You didnt mention base and ship building in 2 sandbox games

Sc just had animals on planets for the first time if im not mistaken ? No base building yet ?

But you can "do what you want" which is ?

Base building in SF is pretty lackluster and shipbuilding is beyond simplistic (albeit fun)
SC will have basebuilding as well, much more advanced and due to the fact its MP, it will have meaningful impact.. no shipbuilding, but ship customzation.

Again they have basically nothing in common outside the fact someone wants to claim SF is a actual space exploration game... if it is that, then ever game with space in it is so... I will still hold my opinion that its planet hub based, more so than space based.

Most players will spend next to no time in space in SF. In SC half my time is in space itself.

So :" SC has nothing to do on planets but base building will be in the game soon and it will be awesome and better than in starfield" -> sure

"Most player spend no time in space in SF" -> how can you be so wrong ? Building ships and then spamming space encounters is literally a core gameplay loop in this game.