After Starfield, will you buy another Bethesda game?

[Bastard Emperor]

Personally I won't but I'd like to hear your thoughts why or why not.

[major tom]

after starfield - why not ? i would buy it! but i would not preorder or buy hyped. there is no reason to trust anyone so i wait until i can access independent reviews. even some impressive independent starfield videos are available. that worked always great - including bethesda games.

[Darth Revan]

Originally posted by TheCr33pur:

No i wont, i am done with them lol. Idk what happen in Bethesda, look like they lost interest and not being creative. They probably have a old game engine that needed to be replace and/or better developers.

The engine is a big part of what makes bethesda games great in the first place.

Switching to a different engine would be about the most stupid thing they possibly could do.

[Rommel]

Well I won't pre-order it{a few years ago I would of pre-order ES6 in a heartbeat if it was announced} But not today. After FO 76 and SF I no longer trust Bethesda and will take a wait and see attitude like I do for most games now. {did pre-order the Elder Ring DLC but I trust
FromSoftware}

[Call Sign: Raven]

I'll do what I always do prior to buying a new release: Research the game until I'm 100% sure it's a good fit for me or not. Much better to do that, even with studios you trust. You better believe I researched the heck out of Armored Core VI before buying, and they're my "most trusted" studio right now.

[Call Sign: Raven]

Originally posted by TheCr33pur:

No i wont, i am done with them lol. Idk what happen in Bethesda, look like they lost interest and not being creative. They probably have a old game engine that needed to be replace and/or better developers.

Not being creative? They made an entire universe that is completely new for their studio and started a new IP. It's the most creative thing they could have done. If you had done even a modicum of reading, you would have discovered they made a brand new engine just for TES6 and SF.

[Wobblyshrimp]

Certainly won't preorder. But I don't see myself not owning ES6, even though Starfield is an utter failure in almost every way. They completely missed the mark on Starfield and have seemed to lost their understanding of what true fans of BGS want. I will also never believe the slightest utterance from Todd. He is a disgrace and should be ashamed of what his career has become given the potential he had.

[JJ]

I'm still busy buying Starfield for all my friends. But after that. Yes, for sure.

[trevorbergershank]

Originally posted by Call Sign: Raven:

Originally posted by TheCr33pur:

No i wont, i am done with them lol. Idk what happen in Bethesda, look like they lost interest and not being creative. They probably have a old game engine that needed to be replace and/or better developers.

Not being creative? They made an entire universe that is completely new for their studio and started a new IP. It's the most creative thing they could have done. If you had done even a modicum of reading, you would have discovered they made a brand new engine just for TES6 and SF.

To be fair, the 'universe; they've made is extremely bland and unimaginative. They've either purposefully played it way too safe or simply employed terrible writers, perhaps a bit of both. With the vast possibilities in terms of what they could have created, it's actually hard to believe that this is the best they could come up with; generic main factions that come across as though they were written and designed in under 5 minutes alongside a vision of the future that somehow manages to be boring and senseless at the same time.

The only elements provoking real imagination and interest are House Va'Ruun, who aren't even properly in the game, and the Starborn/Main 'story' which currently plays as though it's only around 5% finished.

[Wobblyshrimp]

Originally posted by Call Sign: Raven:

Originally posted by TheCr33pur:

No i wont, i am done with them lol. Idk what happen in Bethesda, look like they lost interest and not being creative. They probably have a old game engine that needed to be replace and/or better developers.

Not being creative? They made an entire universe that is completely new for their studio and started a new IP. It's the most creative thing they could have done. If you had done even a modicum of reading, you would have discovered they made a brand new engine just for TES6 and SF.

The attempt should not be awarded for creativity. Even though its a new IP/world it fails to be creatively compelling in any possible way. It is bits and pieces of the same scifi story told countless times, but stripped down to the most basic elements of story telling. It is the stuff of high school creative writing classes. Anyone who disagrees with this or is impressed by Starfield's world/story simply does not spend enough time immersing themselves in truly great creative worlds, be that in books, games, movies, etc.

[Low Standards]

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

Bethesda does not exist anymore, so no.

Would I buy another Xbox Games Studios game (MS) well.. maybe, it depends on what it is.

A very good point that I tried raising a while ago. I wish it was pointed out more. It starts off near hands off but over a year turns full on Borg.

[PeaceMaker]

Originally posted by Call Sign: Raven:

Not being creative? They made an entire universe that is completely new for their studio and started a new IP. It's the most creative thing they could have done. If you had done even a modicum of reading, you would have discovered they made a brand new engine just for TES6 and SF.

Creating something new is not the same as creating something creatively.

[Low Standards]

Originally posted by Call Sign: Raven:

Originally posted by TheCr33pur:

No i wont, i am done with them lol. Idk what happen in Bethesda, look like they lost interest and not being creative. They probably have a old game engine that needed to be replace and/or better developers.

Not being creative? They made an entire universe that is completely new for their studio and started a new IP. It's the most creative thing they could have done. If you had done even a modicum of reading, you would have discovered they made a brand new engine just for TES6 and SF.

LOL! I can't stop laughing. A dying Earth and liberal and a conservative faction that dresses up as space cowboys. Totally, totally creative.

[AdahnGorion]

Originally posted by orifice:

The last BGS game I bought was FO4. If they ever remake / remaster the older ones (Morrowind, Oblivion, etc.) I will probably purchase them again, depending on the quality of the remake / remaster. I will almost certainly not buy any new BGS title, especially not for 70$ plus.

I'm looking for RPGs with a good amount of immersive sim components and stimulating / mature story writing / telling. Recent BGS titles have been severely lacking in both departments, especially Starfeild.

There is an Oblivion remake in the process (we know from the MS leak in court) and its rumoured (this we don´t know for sure) that its outsourced entirely and will feature a symbiotic twist of two engines, where the original is keept for most gameplay related and then UE5 for graphics and audio overhaul.

[Low Standards]

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

Originally posted by orifice:

The last BGS game I bought was FO4. If they ever remake / remaster the older ones (Morrowind, Oblivion, etc.) I will probably purchase them again, depending on the quality of the remake / remaster. I will almost certainly not buy any new BGS title, especially not for 70$ plus.

I'm looking for RPGs with a good amount of immersive sim components and stimulating / mature story writing / telling. Recent BGS titles have been severely lacking in both departments, especially Starfeild.

There is an Oblivion remake in the process (we know from the MS leak in court) and its rumoured (this we don´t know for sure) that its outsourced entirely and will feature a symbiotic twist of two engines, where the original is keept for most gameplay related and then UE5 for graphics and audio overhaul.

They should have did all this with Starfield. Especially the outsourcing.

[Call Sign: Raven]

Originally posted by trevorbergershank:

Originally posted by Call Sign: Raven:

Not being creative? They made an entire universe that is completely new for their studio and started a new IP. It's the most creative thing they could have done. If you had done even a modicum of reading, you would have discovered they made a brand new engine just for TES6 and SF.

To be fair, the 'universe; they've made is extremely bland and unimaginative. They've either purposefully played it way too safe or simply employed terrible writers, perhaps a bit of both. With the vast possibilities in terms of what they could have created, it's actually hard to believe that this is the best they could come up with; generic main factions that come across as though they were written and designed in under 5 minutes alongside a vision of the future that somehow manages to be boring and senseless at the same time.

The only elements provoking real imagination and interest are House Va'Ruun, who aren't even properly in the game, and the Starborn/Main 'story' which currently plays as though it's only around 5% finished.

Thank you for your vision. I suppose each aspect of the game can only be viewed through the eye of the beholder. If you think the game is bland, that's your prerogative, respect.