What happened ?

[heecks]

Since it's a sale I decided to revisit some of my wishlist games and when I see the 39% mostly negative I was like ????? What happened to starfield ?

[Xannie]

Starfield is a weird game that seems to get worse the longer you play it and the cracks start to show. I genuinely enjoyed my first 'run'... until I didn't. The flaws and problems that the first wave of players only stated to feel later on are documented in reviews and Youtube videos now to such a degree that people are going into the game aware of them, plus the lack of post-release hype goggles, so they aren't being as charitable as the early reviews.

It also doesn't have the replay-ability or staying power of previous Bethesda releases, as you can see from the crashing player count compared to other BGS games. I've just started a second run myself and I'm really struggling to get back into the game. There is just nothing to do or explore once you've completed a full run. BGS have managed to make a one-and-done. Mods will probably help a lot once the tools release, and Shattered Space will almost certainly give it a temporary boost, but I'm pretty confident that it will (sadly) never be another Fallout NV, 4, or Skyrim, when it comes to sustained decade-long engagement. People are still finding new stuff in all the prior mentioned titles to this day. Starfield I had experienced pretty much everything there was to experience in my first week of playing, and I was surprised to see I had earned most of the achievements without even noticing.

[Bastian]

Originally posted by Xannie:

Starfield is a weird game that seems to get worse the longer you play it and the cracks start to show. I genuinely enjoyed my first 'run'... until I didn't. The flaws and problems that the first wave of players only stated to feel later on are documented in reviews and Youtube videos now to such a degree that people are going into the game aware of them, plus the lack of post-release hype goggles, so they aren't being as charitable as the early reviews.

Perfect summary. It's all about how well you can continue to enjoy the game as you become more and more aware of those cracks. It's a deal breaker to a lot of people. IMO, for the amount of time that has passed since launch, the game is still a bit too broken in subtle yet very annoying ways. Doubly so since the CK isn't out so even modders can't fix a lot of it yet.

Personally, I can still play it and have a good time, but I absolutely understand why a lot of people cant.

[Ravnhood]

Play it and find out. 400 hours in and I'm still enjoying it and still haven't covered half of the main quests. Most of us like it, but most of the vocal people in here are haters trying to "save prospective buyers."
Feel free to read my review. I've updated it regularly through my playtime so you can see how things progressed from the beginning until very recently. Performance has been flawless and I haven't encountered any real problems at all.

[Anticitizen 1]

Don't buy it, the game is complete trash. The overall review score is artificially inflated due to a clever marketing trick, recent score is more representative.

[Princess Rose]

There is also the fact the game is very... child friendly. There is barely to no actual benefits to making any morally corrupt choice. All save for 2 of the main companions are goody two shoes, and both of those two have collectively half a personality. In my opinion all but 1 of the major story lines are cliched and dry, leaving very little to no actual impact on your game, save for the main story but that's more of you gaining context and knowledge. Character creation is a joke.

My biggest complaint is you level up, you get perk points. But if you want a higher rank of a perk, it requires little challenges to be completed to have the ability to.

For example: "Sweet, I leveled up and I can level up my explosives skill, wait, I need to kill 106 more people with explosives before I can do that. Guess I'll level up something else and get that later. Oh wait, I need to pick 14 more locks before I can level up that skill. Aww and I only need 1 more boost jump in combat. Too bad this quest has been entirely non combat for 45 minutes. Guess I'll either save it or pick a throwaway perk."

Just give ranks level requirements if you want to cu*k us like that Todd.

[Alex]

Aside the tech issues, well, to be honest, I think it is due to this game being hyped, which didn't bother Bethesda a bit. I think they are still with their minds during the Skyrim era where people were gobsmacked with how fun Skyrim was, trying to still stand on that glory. That didn't help.
There were also the barebone issues, with combat, space combat, lack of a survival mode, the settlement system being very, VERY limited with no actual entertainment value, like none, not even compared to the basic Fallout 4 settlement system.
The Woke stuff didn't help. Like at all. People are tired of it. That 3rd party site for mods started banning mods that removed pronouns and while this isn't directly on Bethesda, it didn't help a bit, on the contrary, it did damage.
Then there's the updates, which have been very underwhelming. Fix, fix, fix, here's a photo mode. Come on.

Then there's their involvement with that Baby narrative consultancy company everyone is talking about on youtube which managed to piss off the whole of the gaming world, which isn't easy to do and put a permanent stain on the games they were involved with.

Their last hope now would be the expansion, what's it called? Shattered something. But given the way this game has been treated by it's own devs, I doubt that's gonna save it, or that it's gonna be any good.

Anyway, this game is why I won't bother with anything else they put out unless it's gonna prove to be damned good. I mean Skyrim levels of good, but I doubt they'll ever be able to pull that off ever again.

[gywidion]

Originally posted by Alex:

Aside the tech issues, well, to be honest, I think it is due to this game being hyped, which didn't bother Bethesda a bit. I think they are still with their minds during the Skyrim era where people were gobsmacked with how fun Skyrim was, trying to still stand on that glory. That didn't help.
There were also the barebone issues, with combat, space combat, lack of a survival mode, the settlement system being very, VERY limited with no actual entertainment value, like none, not even compared to the basic Fallout 4 settlement system.
The Woke stuff didn't help. Like at all. People are tired of it. That 3rd party site for mods started banning mods that removed pronouns and while this isn't directly on Bethesda, it didn't help a bit, on the contrary, it did damage.
Then there's the updates, which have been very underwhelming. Fix, fix, fix, here's a photo mode. Come on.

Then there's their involvement with that Baby narrative consultancy company everyone is talking about on youtube which managed to piss off the whole of the gaming world, which isn't easy to do and put a permanent stain on the games they were involved with.

Their last hope now would be the expansion, what's it called? Shattered something. But given the way this game has been treated by it's own devs, I doubt that's gonna save it, or that it's gonna be any good.

Anyway, this game is why I won't bother with anything else they put out unless it's gonna prove to be damned good. I mean Skyrim levels of good, but I doubt they'll ever be able to pull that off ever again.

Outside of the SBI nonsese, good post. I almost thought you could think for yourself for a min. SBI had no involvement with the game, you are just further staining the industry by spouting proven lies.

[lunsmann]

Originally posted by Princess Rose:

There is also the fact the game is very... child friendly. There is barely to no actual benefits to making any morally corrupt choice. All save for 2 of the main companions are goody two shoes, and both of those two have collectively half a personality. In my opinion all but 1 of the major story lines are cliched and dry, leaving very little to no actual impact on your game, save for the main story but that's more of you gaining context and knowledge. Character creation is a joke.

My biggest complaint is you level up, you get perk points. But if you want a higher rank of a perk, it requires little challenges to be completed to have the ability to.

For example: "Sweet, I leveled up and I can level up my explosives skill, wait, I need to kill 106 more people with explosives before I can do that. Guess I'll level up something else and get that later. Oh wait, I need to pick 14 more locks before I can level up that skill. Aww and I only need 1 more boost jump in combat. Too bad this quest has been entirely non combat for 45 minutes. Guess I'll either save it or pick a throwaway perk."

Just give ranks level requirements if you want to cu*k us like that Todd.

LOL. There is literally a mod for that already. More than one in fact. You will find it on Nexus.

[TsampaD]

Nothing happened, it's just a bad game title and the community decided to return the broken stuff that's all.

[Jᴧgᴧ]

Originally posted by heecks:

Since it's a sale I decided to revisit some of my wishlist games and when I see the 39% mostly negative I was like ????? What happened to starfield ?

They released it.

Once people had played it for over a month the honeymoon period was over, the blinders came off, and most people finally realized what it was they had bought.

For the last ~5.5 months it's had the same ~42% approval rating on Steam. It's widely recognized as "severely meh", and not a good purchase for the price. There's no Creation Kit yet, no DLC, and few patches that fix game issues.

If you even wanted to try it out, it's recommended you go to PC Gamepass, get a 1-month trial for ~$10, and check it out there. You can get through most of it's content in a month anyway, and you'll know if you want to dump $70 on it for the NG+ experience. I wouldn't, but that's me.

[Jarsonne]

Finishing my 3rd play, but I can only agree, try the game on gamepass first.

The problem is the sale will be over before you decide, but the game is complicate with very good points and very weak points.

If you like RPG more particularly, I warmly advise try it on gamepass, if not, I can't say.

[p_c_sousa87]

Originally posted by heecks:

Since it's a sale I decided to revisit some of my wishlist games and when I see the 39% mostly negative I was like ????? What happened to starfield ?

Nothing happen, actually happen false marketing than people start play the game and than the score started lower and thats it.

A crap game is bad no matter how much you spend on marketing....