Starfield sold no more than 3 Million copies

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Starfield was just shy of top 10 selling games in 2023 coming in at the number 11 spot. At number 9 is Warner Brothers Mortal Kombat 1 which Warner brothers themselves has confirmed 3 Million sales[gamingbolt.com] for.

It seems I'm late to noticing this. Both Jason Schreier and Videogamer[www.videogamer.com] made note of this months ago. Jason Schreier even claimed that the $235 Million in steam revenue was an outlandish estimate.

The estimated development budget for Starfield was over $400 Million[exputer.com] (not including its advertising budget and Zenimax was acquired by Microsoft for $7.5 Billion

[ZeroFate]

Escrito originalmente por Jᴧgᴧ:

So the SteamDB "3.1 million" averaged from four different estimates wasn't too far off. Good to know.

However I have to wonder if all refunds are -also- factored into these final numbers for 2023.

No, refunds never factor into public facing of copies sold. The copies sold is often a marketing ploy to entice more buyers so they will never report how many of those were refunded.

[Gamefever]

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Bethesda seriously needs to change their development process. Instead of spending the entire budget of the game on marketing they need to hire modders, the people who always make their games 10x better.

They need to listen to feedback, everyone has been crying their eyes out for a new engine for over 10+ years and Bethesda keeps shrugging it off like they know better.

Most of all, stop with the freaking lies, set your expectations better, they kept saying you could walk around planets up until the night before launch and of course we found out you couldn't do that. People kept believing this was a real space game for the whole 4 years before launch and it never was...

+1

Also
Added thought, up until recently people have openly defended that it is real space game. Heck there is a NASA thread ongoing.
I wonder, how much of the engine features are removed from prior games?

[StupidSexyBigChunga]

Making games for the lowest common denominator was a mistake. Lucky for me i didnt give todd any of my money. Trash is trash.

[Krash Megiddo]

Escrito originalmente por soft summer toes:

At number 9 is Warner Brothers Mortal Kombat 1 which Warner brothers themselves has confirmed 3 Million sales[gamingbolt.com] for.

^This is a story about Mortal Kombat. I didn't see Starfield or Bethesda mentioned. Wrong forum?

[Rommel]

Escrito originalmente por soft summer toes:

Starfield was just shy of top 10 selling games in 2023 coming in at the number 11 spot. At number 9 is Warner Brothers Mortal Kombat 1 which Warner brothers themselves has confirmed 3 Million sales[gamingbolt.com] for.

It seems I'm late to noticing this. Both Jason Schreier and Videogamer[www.videogamer.com] made note of this months ago. Jason Schreier even claimed that the $235 Million in steam revenue was an outlandish estimate.

The estimated development budget for Starfield was over $400 Million[exputer.com] (not including its advertising budget and Zenimax was acquired by Microsoft for $7.5 Billion

One does not put a AAA game on game pass and expect great sales even with discounts
when you can pay just 10 bucks on game pass for a month. Then add the fact that the
game was not that great......means very poor sales lol!

[Gamefever]

Escrito originalmente por Krash Megiddo:

Escrito originalmente por soft summer toes:

At number 9 is Warner Brothers Mortal Kombat 1 which Warner brothers themselves has confirmed 3 Million sales[gamingbolt.com] for.

^This is a story about Mortal Kombat. I didn't see Starfield or Bethesda mentioned. Wrong forum?

As it should be!
Starfield is fighting for it's life in every Starfield forum community, hack this one is the most active even.

Mortal Combat
Fight
🥊

[Bobby]

Escrito originalmente por soft summer toes:

Starfield was just shy of top 10 selling games in 2023 coming in at the number 11 spot. At number 9 is Warner Brothers Mortal Kombat 1 which Warner brothers themselves has confirmed 3 Million sales[gamingbolt.com] for.

It seems I'm late to noticing this. Both Jason Schreier and Videogamer[www.videogamer.com] made note of this months ago. Jason Schreier even claimed that the $235 Million in steam revenue was an outlandish estimate.

The estimated development budget for Starfield was over $400 Million[exputer.com] (not including its advertising budget and Zenimax was acquired by Microsoft for $7.5 Billion

What @ as per usual.

Look what found on the internet also….Amazing eh?

You have found some unconfirmed made-up internet data says 3million sold yet I have more unconfirmed data saying otherwise- or is it confirmed…

https://www.gameinformer.com/news/2023/09/08/starfield-had-the-biggest-launch-ever-for-a-bethesda-game

Yet there was 11 million players playing it on Xbox and PC.

In case your not bright.

11 million into 3 million doesn’t exactly go….

Starfield hit Xbox Series X/S and PC last month, and it became the biggest Bethesda game launch ever, later earning it the top spot on best-selling games in the U.S. last month. Now, thanks to Microsoft's Fiscal Year 2024 Quarter 1 financial results, we know more than 11 million players have played Starfield to date. Starfield's excellent launch resulted in a 13% increase in overall Xbox content and services. However, despite the financial boon on the Xbox services side, overall Xbox hardware was still down 7%.

That's according to Microsoft executive vice president and chief financial officer Amy Hood, who also revealed during the financial results call yesterday that Xbox Game Pass experienced "better-than-expected" subscriber growth; Microsoft did not share any updated Game Pass subscription numbers, though. That 7% decrease in Xbox hardware contributed to an overall decrease of 22% in Microsoft hardware for this quarter.

I guess that means you need to do better…

[Get to the next screen]

They needed to sell, losing $400 million easily would have bankrupted the company they knew this was coming. I wonder if it's cheaper for Microsoft to shut Bethesda down and write much of it off as a tax loss.

[Low Standards]

I am worried about sales and current people playing. Microsoft doesn't like excuses.

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Escrito originalmente por Bobby:

Escrito originalmente por soft summer toes:

Starfield was just shy of top 10 selling games in 2023 coming in at the number 11 spot. At number 9 is Warner Brothers Mortal Kombat 1 which Warner brothers themselves has confirmed 3 Million sales[gamingbolt.com] for.

It seems I'm late to noticing this. Both Jason Schreier and Videogamer[www.videogamer.com] made note of this months ago. Jason Schreier even claimed that the $235 Million in steam revenue was an outlandish estimate.

The estimated development budget for Starfield was over $400 Million[exputer.com] (not including its advertising budget and Zenimax was acquired by Microsoft for $7.5 Billion

What @ as per usual.

Look what found on the internet also….Amazing eh?

You have found some unconfirmed made-up internet data says 3million sold yet I have more unconfirmed data saying otherwise- or is it confirmed…

https://www.gameinformer.com/news/2023/09/08/starfield-had-the-biggest-launch-ever-for-a-bethesda-game

Yet there was 11 million players playing it on Xbox and PC.

In case your not bright.

11 million into 3 million doesn’t exactly go….

Starfield hit Xbox Series X/S and PC last month, and it became the biggest Bethesda game launch ever, later earning it the top spot on best-selling games in the U.S. last month. Now, thanks to Microsoft's Fiscal Year 2024 Quarter 1 financial results, we know more than 11 million players have played Starfield to date. Starfield's excellent launch resulted in a 13% increase in overall Xbox content and services. However, despite the financial boon on the Xbox services side, overall Xbox hardware was still down 7%.

That's according to Microsoft executive vice president and chief financial officer Amy Hood, who also revealed during the financial results call yesterday that Xbox Game Pass experienced "better-than-expected" subscriber growth; Microsoft did not share any updated Game Pass subscription numbers, though. That 7% decrease in Xbox hardware contributed to an overall decrease of 22% in Microsoft hardware for this quarter.

I guess that means you need to do better…

13 million players does not equal 13 million sales. it was launched day 1 on gamepass. 10 million gamepass players, 3 million purchases.

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Escrito originalmente por Krash Megiddo:

Escrito originalmente por soft summer toes:

At number 9 is Warner Brothers Mortal Kombat 1 which Warner brothers themselves has confirmed 3 Million sales[gamingbolt.com] for.

^This is a story about Mortal Kombat. I didn't see Starfield or Bethesda mentioned. Wrong forum?

sorry but i dont have time to pander to trolls. blocked.

[Low Standards]

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Escrito originalmente por Krash Megiddo:

^This is a story about Mortal Kombat. I didn't see Starfield or Bethesda mentioned. Wrong forum?

sorry but i dont have time to pander to trolls. blocked.

Krash is not a troll. Confused maybe, but not a troll.

[76561198013077829]

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Escrito originalmente por soft summer toes:

sorry but i dont have time to pander to trolls. blocked.

Krash is not a troll. Confused maybe, but not a troll.

you may be right and i will revisit my decision in the future but i refuse to believe someone with good intentions is being that obtuse.

[Sassy Robot]

Escrito originalmente por Mightylink:

Bethesda seriously needs to change their development process. Instead of spending the entire budget of the game on marketing they need to hire modders, the people who always make their games 10x better.

They do hire modders.

[Sassy Robot]

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Escrito originalmente por Bobby:

What @ as per usual.

Look what found on the internet also….Amazing eh?

You have found some unconfirmed made-up internet data says 3million sold yet I have more unconfirmed data saying otherwise- or is it confirmed…

https://www.gameinformer.com/news/2023/09/08/starfield-had-the-biggest-launch-ever-for-a-bethesda-game

Yet there was 11 million players playing it on Xbox and PC.

In case your not bright.

11 million into 3 million doesn’t exactly go….



I guess that means you need to do better…

13 million players does not equal 13 million sales. it was launched day 1 on gamepass. 10 million gamepass players, 3 million purchases.

The Day 1 launch on Gamepass was definitely accounted for. It's not like it was accidental. If the game drove Gamepass subscriptions then that likely was seen as a win by Microsoft. Schemes like Gamepass and Playstation Plus are just another form of live service. Games you do not own, subscribe to, and rent basically.

That's what all these companies want now. The less games you own, the more you will be eternally renting from them from the entirety of your time in the hobby. If Starfield pushed a lot of people into Gamepass then MS likely sees that as a win. Obviously we don't know what their retention numbers for the service look like, but from the glowing way I hear people talk about it I'm guessing it is pretty successful.