Why can't i zero Benjamin Bayu?

[FRLN]

As the title said, im at the point where i've had enough with this greedy, selfish and double faced old fart, why cant the game let me kill this man? I dont even care if eventually i cant do any mission with him inside anymore

[coffinwood]

You can't. Bayu is marked as an essential NPC.

Bethesda should post something like a "Wrap-up" of the game's statistics including how many times Ben Bayu was shot in the groin by players he enraged.

I accept no argument that Starfield is an entirely shallow game, when they still manage to have players write posts about how they can't kill a real ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Yunalesca Darkfold]

He is involved in a number of quests is why lol

[coffinwood]

Originally posted by Yunalesca Darkfold:

He is involved in a number of quests is why lol

But after we finished the quests, can we please shoot him and stab him? Bayu is my Ulfric Stomcloak.

[Sugarwolf]

Originally posted by Yunalesca Darkfold:

He is involved in a number of quests is why lol

I understand the reasoning behind essential npcs, but Morrowind and New Vegas had no problem letting you drop basically anyone and fail quests because of it.

[tkwoods]

I think you can... I didn't but I think the attack option was there. Just like Hope

[Knottypine]

Spoiler incoming... but just want to say one thing I'm a bit disappointed in...

During the Crimson Fleet quest line, you have the opportunity to gather evidence. Evidence you turn in on specific people usually lands them in the UC Vigilance brig. There is evidence on Benjamin Bayu, and it sounded like they were going to get him. Sadly, they were never locked up in the brig. It would have been funny to chat with him after what he did to me.

[tkwoods]

Originally posted by Knottypine:

Spoiler incoming... but just want to say one thing I'm a bit disappointed in...

During the Crimson Fleet quest line, you have the opportunity to gather evidence. Evidence you turn in on specific people usually lands them in the UC Vigilance brig. There is evidence on Benjamin Bayu, and it sounded like they were going to get him. Sadly, they were never locked up in the brig. It would have been funny to chat with him after what he did to me.

Yes, do you remember the dialog at the end of "All That Money Can Buy"? Didn't it have an attack option?

[Mexicola9302]

I tried killing him too. It's ridiculous you can't just kill ppl in this game anymore. So pretty much all named NPC's are essential. It's such lazy coding.

[tkwoods]

Originally posted by Mexicola9302:

I tried killing him too. It's ridiculous you can't just kill ppl in this game anymore. So pretty much all named NPC's are essential. It's such lazy coding.

But you can kill some when the time is right. In fact you have to kill some.

[AdahnGorion]

Originally posted by FRLN:

As the title said, im at the point where i've had enough with this greedy, selfish and double faced old fart, why cant the game let me kill this man? I dont even care if eventually i cant do any mission with him inside anymore

Because most npcs in this game is immortal, so you don´t stray of the path destined for you.

[Lazarus {FATE}]

Originally posted by Sugarwolf:

Originally posted by Yunalesca Darkfold:

He is involved in a number of quests is why lol

I understand the reasoning behind essential npcs, but Morrowind and New Vegas had no problem letting you drop basically anyone and fail quests because of it.

With today's gamer, the player wouldn't comprehend what they did wrong and then critique the game as being broken, instead of wondering their thought processes was inadequate.

It would be some thing like....

How dare they make an important npc killable and remove my ability to complete x or y without reloading.

Today, choice is extremely superficial in games because of gamers, not studios.
Developers don't need the extra hassle of making sure everyone can complete the game by protecting certain npc's.

It is done so little Johnny can do anything they want and still complete the game like a big boy.

[tkwoods]

Originally posted by Illuminated Transfixed Cervidae:

Originally posted by Sugarwolf:

I understand the reasoning behind essential npcs, but Morrowind and New Vegas had no problem letting you drop basically anyone and fail quests because of it.

With today's gamer, the player wouldn't comprehend what they did wrong and then critique the game as being broken, instead of wondering their thought processes was inadequate.

It would be some thing like....

How dare they make an important npc killable and remove my ability to complete x or y without reloading.

Today, choice is extremely superficial in games because of gamers, not studios.
Developers don't need the extra hassle of making sure everyone can complete the game by protecting certain npc's.

It is done so little Johnny can do anything they want and still complete the game like a big boy.

I have to agree here. Many people advocate for stuff that the majority of players would have issues with.

[Gravity 🌌]

Nowadays game developers fail to understand that murder solves literally every possible problem.

[Knottypine]

Originally posted by tkwoods:

Yes, do you remember the dialog at the end of "All That Money Can Buy"? Didn't it have an attack option?

I don't recall. But I don't believe so. Do you mean the mission Absolute Power? Will keep an eye on that next time, but I am sure there is no attack option for him in any dialogue.

[Ommamar]

Here is an odd thing that happened regarding Bayu the first time I did "All that Money can buy" I ended up fighting the bounty hunter guy who demands you turn over the artifact. A grenade must of hit the security in the hallway because they all went aggressive to me. During all this Bayu runs out in the middle of the fight, Walters wife was there throwing grenades around. Bayu runs into my line of fire a head shot knocks him down as he is getting up one of Walter's wife grenades goes of near him. He ended up in this loop of getting then being hit by an explosion. This happened right outside the lounge so every time I visited Neon he would be there doing this funky loop. Unfortunately that save got corrupted or something as it would load then immediately crash so I lost watching Bayu get blown up in front of the stairs below the lounge.