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Darth Siles Dec 15, 2023 @ 11:10am
Question about NG+, should i go for the main mission or not?
Hi there... i suppose that this question (or similar ones) have been answered before, but trying to find information in this forums is kind of difficult, so sorry in advance.

So... Looking for info on the game and such, I think I ran into an big spoiler (although I already imagined it was like that) about the end of the game. I put it in Spoiler, but you don't need to answer me about this.



I understand that the game at the end, like it transports you to another dimension or parallel universe where you start again or something like that and with this they justify the famous NG+



As I said, no need of an answer about whether I am right or not. What I'm interested in knowing is:

Is it necessary to go to NG+ to understand the game's story? Does anything change in the NG+ on a narrative/story level?

I mean, if it's like, for example, in Dragon's Dogma where at the end of the second complete run something is discovered that affects the first...

Or is this just an excuse to upgrade to NG+??

I say this because i'm not interested in NG+ at all. Seriously, I don't understand the concept or this thing being something interesting. If I want to play again the game, I start from the beginning and that's all, I don't need to continue/start with my character completely at its best, it's okay to be a newbie again and take another path.

But the point is to know if it is necessary to focus on the main quest and forget about everything else (creating ships, settlements, other secondary quests) and then do it on the second run or, forget about NG+ because it doesn't offer anything different except playing another time, but with a powerful character...

Some answer please?

Thank you!
Last edited by Darth Siles; Dec 15, 2023 @ 11:11am
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MadDawg2552 Dec 15, 2023 @ 11:13am 
Originally posted by Darth Siles:
Is it necessary to go to NG+ to understand the game's story? Does anything change in the NG+ on a narrative/story level?
No.

There are different variations (very minimal) for each NG+, but the main story pretty much wraps up the first time you go through it.

You can skip the main story altogether on the next playthrough, and that changes the main narrative, but it's nothing special that you HAVE to do.
Darth Siles Dec 15, 2023 @ 11:15am 
Originally posted by MadDawg2552:
No.

There are different variations (very minimal) for each NG+, but the main story pretty much wraps up the first time you go through it.

You can skip the main story altogether on the next playthrough, and that changes the main narrative, but it's nothing special that you HAVE to do.

Thanks for the quick answer.

So, if i don't mind about NG+ at all and it doesn't offer anything really new in the second playthrough... it's OK to play the game just thinking in an single run? like Skyrim o Fallout?
pearsanity Dec 15, 2023 @ 11:17am 
Meh maybe once or twice, but really just not feasible. Plus losing a you stuff not so bueno.
MadDawg2552 Dec 15, 2023 @ 11:22am 
Originally posted by Darth Siles:
So, if i don't mind about NG+ at all and it doesn't offer anything really new in the second playthrough... it's OK to play the game just thinking in an single run? like Skyrim o Fallout?
I don't really want to spoil anything for you, but the second playthrough is different enough that it doesn't hurt to do it again. There are also... 10? I believe... different variations that can happen. It's best to look those up after you completed the game, though, so you don't spoil it.
Last edited by MadDawg2552; Dec 15, 2023 @ 11:23am
Darth Siles Dec 15, 2023 @ 11:30am 
Originally posted by pearsanity:
Meh maybe once or twice, but really just not feasible. Plus losing a you stuff not so bueno.

That's the main point. My play time is limited, i don't want to put a lot of time and effort in settlements, ships and other stuff, just to lose it in a second run.

That's why i doubt about going to NG+...
pearsanity Dec 15, 2023 @ 11:54am 
Originally posted by Darth Siles:
Originally posted by pearsanity:
Meh maybe once or twice, but really just not feasible. Plus losing a you stuff not so bueno.

That's the main point. My play time is limited, i don't want to put a lot of time and effort in settlements, ships and other stuff, just to lose it in a second run.

That's why i doubt about going to NG+...
Your choice , not really worth the loss. Unless you just want to get a unique Constellation variation, that's about it. Opinion just make a new character for a genuine new start .wish it had a ng+ but as a newly made character with Starborn background
veer Dec 15, 2023 @ 12:14pm 
I am currently at NG+ 10. All I will say is that I keep finding more and New content after 1000 hours of play.
Krash Megiddo Dec 15, 2023 @ 12:19pm 
Very little is enhanced or different in the NG+ universe. I'm in NG9 right now. My fun with NG+ is completing the quests with new and higher skills and powers. The replayability is endless for me.
Azrael Dec 15, 2023 @ 1:01pm 
Originally posted by veer:
I am currently at NG+ 10. All I will say is that I keep finding more and New content after 1000 hours of play.

< placeholder of doubt meme here >

I would even bet in real money that you don't have 1000 hours in this game. Single not a single sane person would waste so much time on something like Starfield especially since there is absolutely nothing worthy to do after NG+
Last edited by Azrael; Dec 15, 2023 @ 1:02pm
Hymzir Dec 15, 2023 @ 2:59pm 
One of the design choices Beth clings to is to make sure you can do everything on one character. That has always rubbed me the wrong way. Like in Skyrim you get to be the head of the College, Harbinger of the Companions, Leader of the Dark Brotherhood and Guild Master for the Thieves as well as a Vampire or a Werewolf (Or both if you glitch it...)

All the while you are also the celebrated and famous Dragonborn, hero and savior of the world. Why choose one path when you can do all of them?

Maybe cause a lot of players actually like it when choices matter?

The idea of making choices that close off possible content is seen as abhorrent to Todd school of game design, and that is true for Starfield too.

Without going into specifics, at the end of the main quest you can opt to start a NG+ or keep playing the game as is.

Going to NG+ is literally a new game. There are some minor extras involved and some super minor variations, but for all practical purposes you start the game with the world reset to zero,

You retain XP but lose all your stuff. This may be a deal breaker for some. Like for people who approach the game more as a looter shooter. For people like me, who plan to mod "magic-guns" away from the game, it is less important.

Personally, I had no interest in NG+ when we learned it was a thing in the game shortly before launch. I just assumed I would do what I do with all Beth titles: Pick a path for my character and stick to it. And If I wanted to try something different I'd start a new game with a new character.

But now, much to my surprise, I kinda like the way NG+ works in the game. And what I ended up doing was playing a different faction with each run. This lets me adopt a different stance, different... Well... not persona as such. I'm still playing the same character. But I still get to assume a different outlook and mindset. Like being all serious and helpful and nice and about protecting the innocent when playing as a space sheriff, and then being a total nut job and revelling in excess when I decide to become a space pirate.

Each NG+ iteration lets me play "What if?" with my character concept. How would things play out if my character made different choices and walked down different paths? And then at the end evaluate this reality's version of the character. It's all pretty meta, but it fits the overall story and I find it interesting.

The thing is, it's not an easy thing to answer. Some will advocate taking it slow and doing everything before going to the end. Others might say rushing the main quest makes more sense. I can't say, it's something you will know when you get there.

The good news is, that the choice to go NG+ or not is something that is initiated by your direct action. It won't by shoved on you from the blue. You will be fully aware it is about to happen. And even then, when standing on that threshold, you can opt out and continue playing as nothing had happened. So you don't need to feel obliged to finish all quest lines before checking it out. And you can still finish everything in one go after learning the truth. Though leaning the truth is a thing that will, of course, color the rest of your play though if you opt to continue.

It really is very subjective, and my take is just one more opinion on the pile. There are no definite answers as to what is optimal.
Last edited by Hymzir; Dec 15, 2023 @ 3:01pm
ListenFat Dec 15, 2023 @ 3:13pm 
Dialog is has extra options, You get the option to preemptively relocate the fragments to your ship/outpost - saving a Constellation member from death entirely.

But as the game is right now if you; if you land on a random planet; it can perma spawn a tile where the the starborn power temples where supposed to spawn - locking out that temple until the next playthrough.

But the Constellation crew benefit your ship immensely and I believe theyre locked without running the main mission again.
No Exit Dec 15, 2023 @ 3:17pm 
I just want to know if in an NG+ that the Earth is inhabitable again.
(Guessing no - that would be too much effort for BGS and not many would ever get to appreciate it)
ListenFat Dec 15, 2023 @ 3:26pm 
Originally posted by No Exit:
I just want to know if in an NG+ that the Earth is inhabitable again.
(Guessing no - that would be too much effort for BGS and not many would ever get to appreciate it)
They intentionally killed the Earths core and it was centuries before the main character - where the protagonist can only go back to when; they first touched the fragment. The Earth is gone forever bro - but always trust the science :)
Last edited by ListenFat; Dec 15, 2023 @ 3:37pm
MadDawg2552 Dec 15, 2023 @ 4:51pm 
Originally posted by Lord_Rive:
Originally posted by veer:
I am currently at NG+ 10. All I will say is that I keep finding more and New content after 1000 hours of play.
I would even bet in real money that you don't have 1000 hours in this game.
1,000 hours is a lot, good game or not.

In my entire life, I've spent over 1,000 hours in only one game: World of Warcraft. I have a handful with 300 to 500, and the others don't even reach 100.

Edit: I was wrong. I have over 1,000 hours in ESO, too.
Last edited by MadDawg2552; Dec 15, 2023 @ 4:54pm
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