Inon Zur sucks. If Jeremy Soule doesn't come back for TES VI, Bethesda is doomed

[Öykünücü]

Sure, Inon Zur has a decent resume to back his talent. He has experience in both Holywood and in video games. His work can be summed up as ''good enough'' or ''passable'' in my opinion. Nothing bad but quite forgettable. Just bland, generic stuff that's trying so hard to evoke some semblance of emotions but for me it sadly failed.

How many of Starfield's tracks do you remember after you stopped playing for a week or longer? I don't.

Now compare that with Skyrim, Oblivion and Morrowind's soundtracks composed by Jeremy Soule. I still listen to them to this day. Those iconic melodies are perfect for open world exploration. Jeremy nailed it, every single time.

[PIT_DEFENDER]

Originally posted by HeyYou:

Originally posted by PIT_DEFENDER:

Yeah we are pretty much forced to buy windows, I use it too ;p But, anything other than that I just never buy ;p Bill is like this greek myth guy except everything he touches turns into ♥♥♥♥ xD

The Schmidas Touch. :D

But, Bill has been outta the chain of command at MS for some time now. He is ostensibly 'retired'..... I would love to have just 1% of his money, I would be VERY comfortably retired as well. :D

Yeah, he is busy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up/saving the entire world with Bill and Mellinda Gates Fundation now ;p

[Daedrius]

I like everything Inon Zur has done in the past, but Starfield's OST just doesn't do it for me.

I was expecting some cool spacey sounds, but... eh. Unfortunately for me it's just not very memorable.

No Man's Sky on the other hand is probably my favorite when it comes to a space themed OST. It's something that I never see mentioned in the forums, or anywhere for that matter, but it definitely has a pretty great sound track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NON4rPB8C2s&list=PLatvCZOpVpgXgWcmg3b2hvpR-abKdLbgh


I really like the anomaly themes-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jjC3uXGowI

[Arctuhris]

I like Starfield, despite its many flaws. I do not like the soundtrack. There isn't a single song that evokes the full body emotion I get when I hear parts of the Skyrim soundtrack, or even the Fallout theme. The soundtrack to Starfield is utterly forgettable. I couldn't hum a single bar from a single song. After almost a thousand hours in game, after a few months passing, I've already forgotten the music.

I don't like speaking ill of someone else's creative work, however . . . IMHO, the lackluster music in Starfield is a big part of why the game is not immersive, emotionally resonant, or profoundly memorable.

When I was watching the new Fallout show, and they played the main theme while panning out on the NCR flag, I got chills, because I was suddenly back in a hundred amazing adventures all at once, because they're all tied to that music. There is absolutely nothing like that in Starfield. I will never hear part of the Starfield score years from now, and get chills as my psyche is plunged back into the stories, emotions, and landscape of another world.

It seems likely that we will never get another Jeremey Soule score on TES 6, but (again, sorry Mr. Zur), I'm praying they get somebody new who can do better than Starfield, but the music of TES needs to be a part of the geography we are exploring. When I listen to Kyne's Peace, I can still picture the inside of the temple, and I haven't played Skyrim in many years. If they can't achieve that kind of unity between music and location in TES 6, regardless of anything else, it will be a big step backwards in immersive roleplaying and exploration.

[momopovich]

Originally posted by Bankipriel:

The soundtrack to Starfield is utterly forgettable. I couldn't hum a single bar from a single song.

Well there are no songs in the soundtrack so that might be the reason ?

I find the main theme fairly recognizable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrO7Nk-t_9o&ab_channel=BethesdaSoftworksMusic

Are you sure you didnt play with music volume at 0% from th start ?

[Daedrius]

Originally posted by momopovich:

Originally posted by Bankipriel:

The soundtrack to Starfield is utterly forgettable. I couldn't hum a single bar from a single song.

Well there are no songs in the soundtrack so that might be the reason ?

I find the main theme fairly recognizable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrO7Nk-t_9o&ab_channel=BethesdaSoftworksMusic

Are you sure you didnt play with music volume at 0% from th start ?

I mean, it's decent and sounds nice, but it sound like something that could be from Star Wars. It just doesn't quite grab me like this did-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5SeNKLpbtE

[Greywolf]

Um ackshually Jeremy Soule sucks! Not saying this in defence of Inon Zur as I do agree the soundtrack for Starfield was quite bland and uninteresting but I can't say I was ever really a fan of Jeremy Soule's work as even his best stuff always felt like inferior versions of music I had already heard done better however for the most part his work always felt really bland and soulless which is kind of ironic considering his name.

I never really understood why people consider Bethesda's games to have good music?

[momopovich]

Originally posted by Ezeris:

I mean, it's decent and sounds nice, but it sound like something that could be from Star Wars. It just doesn't quite grab me like this did-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5SeNKLpbtE

Thats kinda subjective, musics from Star wars do grab me quite a lot more than the Fallout themes.

The main theme from SF is objectively easy to memorize and recognize.

By the way, the main theme motifs from Starfield and Fallout 4 are extremely similar structurally.

[Liquid Inc]

Originally posted by Bankipriel:

I like Starfield, despite its many flaws. I do not like the soundtrack. There isn't a single song that evokes the full body emotion I get when I hear parts of the Skyrim soundtrack, or even the Fallout theme. The soundtrack to Starfield is utterly forgettable. I couldn't hum a single bar from a single song. After almost a thousand hours in game, after a few months passing, I've already forgotten the music.

I don't like speaking ill of someone else's creative work, however . . . IMHO, the lackluster music in Starfield is a big part of why the game is not immersive, emotionally resonant, or profoundly memorable.

I think the same way; When Fallout 4 starts, and you hear that music on the main menu, it hits you.
Starfield simply... doesn't have that emotional response that Fallout 4 and Skyrim evoke, just as you say.

[Krash Megiddo]

This topic is more proof that everyone has an opinion. Btw, I like the music in SF.

[Blackened Halo]

Well I actually agree with you but only when it comes to Starfield. A highly forgettable OST of which I do not remember anything... but he is a great composer. It´s just Starfield is overally a big disappoitment.

[Blackened Halo]

Originally posted by Bankipriel:

I like Starfield, despite its many flaws. I do not like the soundtrack. There isn't a single song that evokes the full body emotion I get when I hear parts of the Skyrim soundtrack, or even the Fallout theme. The soundtrack to Starfield is utterly forgettable. I couldn't hum a single bar from a single song. After almost a thousand hours in game, after a few months passing, I've already forgotten the music.

I don't like speaking ill of someone else's creative work, however . . . IMHO, the lackluster music in Starfield is a big part of why the game is not immersive, emotionally resonant, or profoundly memorable.

When I was watching the new Fallout show, and they played the main theme while panning out on the NCR flag, I got chills, because I was suddenly back in a hundred amazing adventures all at once, because they're all tied to that music. There is absolutely nothing like that in Starfield. I will never hear part of the Starfield score years from now, and get chills as my psyche is plunged back into the stories, emotions, and landscape of another world.

It seems likely that we will never get another Jeremey Soule score on TES 6, but (again, sorry Mr. Zur), I'm praying they get somebody new who can do better than Starfield, but the music of TES needs to be a part of the geography we are exploring. When I listen to Kyne's Peace, I can still picture the inside of the temple, and I haven't played Skyrim in many years. If they can't achieve that kind of unity between music and location in TES 6, regardless of anything else, it will be a big step backwards in immersive roleplaying and exploration.

100% agree. However I do not think this is just but the composer´s fault. He said he reworked the Main Theme like 14 times in order to finally please Bethesda. Who knows, maybe the whole soundtrack could have been better hadnt been for Bethesda´s nitpicking.

[DR GOO]

Jez ain't coming back because he did a thing and got cancelled without due process.

[momopovich]

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

Is it even music.. seems more like background noise for the most parts.
I don´t think they are any good, mainly because audio is not used for anything else than said background, there is no real tension, no sound clues, no nothing and everything feels the same.

wtf am i reading

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

I am not saying its bad background music however, its decent for what it is.. but its not something people will remember or talk about.

Not you, fortunately other people have taste

[AdahnGorion]

Originally posted by momopovich:

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

Is it even music.. seems more like background noise for the most parts.
I don´t think they are any good, mainly because audio is not used for anything else than said background, there is no real tension, no sound clues, no nothing and everything feels the same.

wtf am i reading

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

I am not saying its bad background music however, its decent for what it is.. but its not something people will remember or talk about.

Not you, fortunately other people have taste

If you look at the general opinion, then Starfields OST is not popular and again, its not used for anything than background.. there is no audio Q, no tension, no nothing.. its a missed upperturnity.

Granted Bethesda games never had to much of this, but I still think they have much better background music and ambience than Starfield.

With that being said, SF is on pair with games such as CP2077 in that department (long long behind games such as BG3)

[Sassy Robot]

I spoke rather negatively of Zur earlier in the thread. After playing Fallout 4 and 76 recently I think I've changed my mind. He's quite a good composer. The music in 76 in particular is really good. Like really good.

I think Starfield just has a kind of sleepy score. It definitely fits with the more grounded feel of the game overall, but I still don't really like it.