the ESG killed starfield as well as cyberbug 2077.

[Adam Freeman]

It was obvious that it would end up like this. Nothing in the trailers showed anything new, the graphics were mediocre for what they could be (Bethesda's fault for using an upgraded graphics engine from a 12 year old engine).

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the ESG getting involved in the development of the game

The designs and changes showed that ESG was messing around, and this means they waste resources on hiring "diverse" people instead of hiring good programmers. I already knew this was about to happen.
In fact, many of the changes had already been announced with great fanfare, and there are some people who have already made some summaries about it.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1716740/discussions/0/4035850896214822853/

With respect to ESG contracts, it is obvious that it is going to increase. Microsoft became owner of Zenimax media and with that of Bethesda Games Studios, and obviously they want to remain the leaders in the sector.

Here is a link to an article where they talked about the issue and showed the link to a page that compiles the contracts and agreements regarding the ESG, you can see that from Microsoft are very interested in strengthening their support to all that "social movement" in all its branches, it makes sense to believe that the game just will not improve
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1716740/discussions/0/3824174554260773923/

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The ESG disaster and how they are dedicated to cover up cases of corruption and abuses in exchange for money.

¿Can anyone show me a single example of a game where ESG is in and it works?

There is also an article that shows how Microsoft is one of the companies that is driving the measures in the sector.

They always get carried away by their ideologies, and it must be stressed, resources are not unlimited, if you spend on unnecessary things, you have to transfer everything to the final cost of the product and it takes longer to finish the games.

Ubisfot with ESG

¿Does anyone remember that this was announced with great fanfare from ubisoft itself with their interviews where they showed that they LITERALLY HIRED PEOPLE FOR THEIR IDEOLOGY AND NOT FOR THEIR QUALITY AS PROGRAMMERS?
ubisoft official page [news.ubisoft.com]

Activision-Blizzart with ESG

Surprise, just like Activision-Blizzart, who also did the same thing, ubisoft is drowning in corruption and labor abuse, they only use progressivism to hide their dirty laundry.
The Gamer [www.thegamer.com]
Kotaku [www.kotaku.com.au]

Correlation between ESG, unions in charge and Bethesda

This is the most obvious correlation between what i just mentioned and Bethesda, the same people behind the ill-fated Activision-Blizzart and Ubisoft organization, CWA, are now behind Zenimax Media and its companies, including Bethesda.
hollywood reporter [www.hollywoodreporter.com]
CWA

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The hypocrisy and unprofessionalism of the ESG. For the benefit of companies no matter how corrupt they may be.

Now I am going to move on to a more interesting topic, ESG, as we all know, seeks to make progress in companies in 3 areas, environment, social environment, and governance.

Now, if we go to the ESG score of these companies you can see that they have a high score, which does not make sense with all the cases of abuse. But it becomes more evident with the following comparison, Mallboro, a company dedicated to the sale of cigarettes, has 4 times more environmental score than Tesla, just because BlackRock does not like Elon Musk.
benzinga [www.msn.com]

additionally, exon scores much higher than tesla after spilling 38000 tons of oil into the sea off alaska, clearly an electric car factory is more polluting than 38000 tons of oil in the sea, right?

BBC News [www.bbc.com]
Sustainalytics [www.sustainalytics.com]
SP Global [www.spglobal.com]


¿Can anyone really believe that the ESG is going to get any good out of being this lame?

the ESG disaster in Cyberpunk 2077

Moreover, ¿why did i mention Cyberpunk 2077? It wasn't random, it was because the ESG was messing with the development and diverting resources to stupid things that didn't leave enough resources to the development of the important stuff. and it is not the only case.
Notice how all the videogames they play, except those that are developed before and what is important, that is to say, the basic programming is already done.

Bounding Into Comics [boundingintocomics.com]
Sankaku Complex [www.sankakucomplex.com]
Sankaku Complex [www.sankakucomplex.com]
Sankaku Complex [www.sankakucomplex.com]

About GTA, it is directly in Take Two's financial reports.
Take Two financial report [taketwointeractivesoftwareinc.gcs-web.com]

finally, many times interesting things come out even with the ESG, for example baldurs gate 3, and it is because the game was already being developed before and it was an "add-on", so to speak, to generate more money. But more importantly, many of those expenses go not to the videogame but to the company (expenses that have to be financed by cutting in the development), following the example of cyberpunk 2077, a good amount of resources went not to the videogame, but to a bonus for m3nstru4t10n... no kidding.
Bounding Into Comics [boundingintocomics.com]

Cause of the disaster

one of the reasons why the disaster happened with cyberpunk 2077 was simple, as I already explained, the ESG loves to cover up abuses in companies, they turn a blind eye and give you a good score, unless you are right wing.
This makes it clear that they have a bias towards the left, but what do they demand in return besides being left wing? and what do they gain?

Let's go in order. First that they demand, and then that they win.

Who demand and their impact on society

What they exist is simple, spend resources on stupidities that promote postmodern progressive ideas as a sort of "cultural battle" from the companies, infecting what we play, see, hear. We could see it with the changes not only in starfield, but in many movies, games, even books, threatening to "modify books to be inclusive".
The Guardian [www.theguardian.com]

it is interesting to analyze this last part "Morgan Gist MacDonald, Founder and CEO of Paper Raven Books argues that rewriting classic books obscures historical realities and prevents valuable conversations about societal evolution".

The goal is obvious, to create societies that are unaware of the past in order to manipulate them, just as in George Orwell's book 1984, only in this case it would be closer to Ray Bradbury's book fahrenheit 451.
How To Be 24/7 [howtobe247.com]
Paper Raven Books [paperravenbooks.com]

If I quote these two books it is because I find their message forceful. Fahrenheit 451 explores the problems of a disinterested society where everything you see and hear is designed for you to have only one vision of the world and try to be happy as the ultimate goal without questioning anything. 1984 is much more crude, but also brings interesting concepts, anger, social politicization and propaganda as a method of control, and above all, the destruction of language, <<if the word war disappears how would war be described? one would say that there is "less peace", we would be calling the problem with the name of the solution>>. Moreover, the book speaks directly on the subject, explaining that it is the only way to achieve true control.

Also making companies that are dedicated to education stop offering certain right-wing products that would lower their rating, this is worrying in the case of educational resources, the media, and not to mention social networks, the goal is to make visible only one version of the world and thus indoctrinate over time to the youngest.

What's in it for them

First, we must understand that this does not only apply to video games, but also to news companies, service companies, production companies, etc.

BlackRock gains as their investments gain more profitability by making their companies more accepted by the general public, and thus they gain more profits, more investments and the price of BlackRock's investments increases.

it is evident that it is a way to cover up horrible companies that seek to generate money at any cost, all in exchange for a percentage for blackrock, we already saw it with the unions and wherever they get into video game companies there is a disaster, symptoms of a corrupt structure and the loss of fear of retaliation, but here it is worse. hsbc bank helped the mexican cartels to launder money and its esg rating did not drop a point, because black rock does not want the thousands of shares it has in that company to fall. however, it is in his interest to dump tesla and twitter shares to hurt elon musk. Elon musk is more dangerous that cartels of Mexico, right?
Corp Watchb [www.corpwatch.org]
Know ESG [www.knowesg.com]

With the news companies they avoid that people talk bad about them, so they can, for example, not follow the controversy with the purchase of houses in the U.S. shooting its price to speculate with that, since BlackRock owns 51.1% of the page that published it and together with other companies own more.
Wall Street Zenb [www.wallstreetzen.com]
Fintel [fintel.io]
Nasdaq [www.nasdaq.com]

Thanks to this support and to popularize the ideas of the left, they manage to win leftist governments with greater margin, and in return their directors have influence in the government, when these are replaced, they are not even really, they are only a bridge between the government and the company itself, so biden has not stopped hiring former blackrock executives, here are some examples:

1. Eric Van Nostrand, a BlackRock managing director who was head of research for sustainable investments and multi-asset strategies, joins the U.S. Treasury Department.
   Bloomberg [www.bloomberg.com]
   
2. Michael Pyle is a former BlackRock executive who has joined the Biden administration as the chief economist to Vice President Kamala Harris 1.
   The American Prospect [prospect.org]
   
3. Biden Names BlackRock's Brian Deese As His Top Economic Aide
   NPR [www.npr.org]

What they gain in this way is to have the government on their side to earn more money, meanwhile, they use the commissions they earn from the shares to invest in companies through ESG, they increase the value of those companies and thus on the other hand the shares they hold earn and receive commissions.

By encouraging post-modern ideas, the government that holds their hand gains popularity and impunity, and then they can invest in real estate markets without the risk of being investigated.

Then with that money they invest in the ESG and in lobbying to anchor themselves to the government. In 2021 they invested 1,940,000 dollars, in 2022 they invested 3,500,000 dollars, and in 2023 they invested 1,400,000 dollars.
Open Secrets [www.opensecrets.org]

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Finally, why I mention all this.

This is not like No Mans Sky, where it's a small studio that feels indebted, these are companies. Shareholders don't give a damn about the video game if it makes them money, and a development this big is expensive, but they're not going to get as many sales for making it better, they're going to get more for making another one and... getting more money from ESG.

They care more than anything else in the world even if they have to overcome any moral barrier to get it, it was obvious that this would happen, and no one can tell me otherwise. They are not going to fix the game, and if they do, they should be applauded. This reminds me of the initial state of skyrim and different games, but to tell the truth, I doubt that after so many months Bethesda cares about anything, they already got their subsidy from the ESG.

It's perfect for them, they don't need to make changes, they don't need to make good games, the ESG takes care of it and that's it.

And it's funny, there are people who make discussions where they say that the game is fine and that "You still need to make your bed in the morning. Clean your rooms. Take out the trash. Do your homework. And take some responsibility for your own lives". As if we were idiots for complaining.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1716740/discussions/0/4035853189471464296/

I really don't understand what is the logic behind these positions, it's basically "you spent a lot of money on a game, but you can't complain that it's the same as games from 2011 like skyrim or 2015 like fallout 4". If someone spends that much money on a game, they have a right to complain if the product is disappointing.om 2011 like skyrim or 2015 like fallout 4". If someone spends that much money on a game, they have a right to complain if the product is disappointing.

[potato]

can i get a tldr

[Dagtag]

The second i read “12 year old engine” i had read enough… starfield uses the creation engine 2. And its the first game to utilise it

[Adam Freeman]

I have to clarify something, if I publish this is because I consider that the players should know about it (and because as I didn't buy the game I don't have many options but to publish it in discussions).

and no, i am not going to buy the game, don't try to convince me that it is good, i will buy it only if you leave aside what the esg demands and make a 180 degree turn in the development.

[tkwoods]

Originally posted by i am not racist when i am horny:

I have to clarify something, if I publish this is because I consider that the players should know about it (and because as I didn't buy the game I don't have many options but to publish it in discussions).

and no, i am not going to buy the game, don't try to convince me that it is good, i will buy it only if you leave aside what the esg demands and make a 180 degree turn in the development.

To late. But you will be happy to know that DEI funding at large corporation is down 37%...
They always drop the unimportant things first in a downturn. META and Alphabet had it in their quarterly reports.

[Adam Freeman]

Originally posted by Dagtag:

The second i read “12 year old engine” i had read enough… starfield uses the creation engine 2. And its the first game to utilise it

my mistake then, with respect to the graphic engine, with the rest I maintain my position.

[oak]

Originally posted by potato:

can i get a tldr

Right wing conspiracy theorist, ignore, block and move on.
(Probably anti-everything as well, but that's just speculation based on their condescending 'menstruation' remark.)

[maeharaprojekt]

Whenever I see "ESG," especially in relation to games, my "conspiracy theorist" detector lights up like the Christmas tree at Rockefeller Center.

[Adam Freeman]

Originally posted by potato:

can i get a tldr

That's okay.

[Dagtag]

Originally posted by i am not racist when i am horny:

Originally posted by Dagtag:

The second i read “12 year old engine” i had read enough… starfield uses the creation engine 2. And its the first game to utilise it

my mistake then, with respect to the graphic engine, with the rest I maintain my position.

My point is, if you already made such a crucial mistake in your first paragraph i don’t even wanna know how many others you made

[Adam Freeman]

Originally posted by maeharaprojekt:

Whenever I see "ESG," especially in relation to games, my "conspiracy theorist" detector lights up like the Christmas tree at Rockefeller Center.

everything I said is backed up by data, news, and even the companies' own financial reports. I also don't like people who take their theories so far that they are not supported by any data.

[Adam Freeman]

Originally posted by oak:

Originally posted by potato:

can i get a tldr

Right wing conspiracy theorist, ignore, block and move on.
(Probably anti-everything as well, but that's just speculation based on their condescending 'menstruation' remark.)

don't even say anything about it lol

[Adam Freeman]

Originally posted by Dagtag:

Originally posted by i am not racist when i am horny:

my mistake then, with respect to the graphic engine, with the rest I maintain my position.

My point is, if you already made such a crucial mistake in your first paragraph i don’t even wanna know how many others you made

an error is an error, but it does not imply more, in this case at least

[Cypher]

A re-hashed engine is still a relic of its predecessor, its why we have the same bugs in this game as were seen in skyrim.

Unreal 5.0 is an upgrade of the previous version, not something new entirely, it builds on 4.0 massively tru, more polygons, easier ui etc bit errors in 4 will carry over to 5 if the devs don't do due dilligence.

[Dagtag]

Originally posted by i am not racist when i am horny:

Originally posted by Dagtag:

My point is, if you already made such a crucial mistake in your first paragraph i don’t even wanna know how many others you made

an error is an error, but it does not imply more, in this case at least

If it was further into your post? Perhaps. The issue is that its within your first paragraph

[Dagtag]

Originally posted by Cypher:

A re-hashed engine is still a relic of its predecessor, its why we have the same bugs in this game as were seen in skyrim

So ue5 is actually just ue…

It shares the same foundation, the graphics pipeline is fundamentally different tho